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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
#24848046 - 12/15/17 02:32 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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You think too much.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
#24848057 - 12/15/17 02:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive never measured a FAE before. So how much to increase it doesn't make sense to me. Just pay attention to the mycelium
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
#24848065 - 12/15/17 02:40 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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just expose your substrate to air. if it gets dry. expose to less air. mist to replenish what evaporated.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#24848087 - 12/15/17 02:50 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josex said: You think too much.
So do you expose your substrate to as much FAE it can handle from day and troughout the fruiting process or do you have another gameplan for fruiting?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja] 1
#24848097 - 12/15/17 02:53 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm such a blasphemous puck so I'd better shut up, cos I think FAE is hugely, sooo hugely overrated.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#24848106 - 12/15/17 02:59 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Then you and me don´t think so differently, that´s also why I´m asking for others growers regiment when it comes to fruiting and managing FAE. I see all taped up monotubs which remind more to an unmodified tub than a fruiting chamber with breathe holes, and those get left alone for the most part and produce good. So any input on this? I don´t want to start a debate guys I don´t care if someone thinks it´s "sensitive matters" to have different opinions, I just want to know what you guys think that´s all.
I will of course experiment with this grow and treat all the demonofied tubs differently to see what´s what, but until then I´d like input on this matter, something more than just "you think too much". peace
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#24848107 - 12/15/17 02:59 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josex said: I'm such a blasphemous puck so I'd better shut up, cos I think FAE is hugely, sooo hugely overrated.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy]
#24848123 - 12/15/17 03:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josex said: I'm such a blasphemous puck so I'd better shut up, cos I think FAE is hugely, sooo hugely overrated.

JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!
(don´tpussy out now)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
#24848126 - 12/15/17 03:07 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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it would be derailing a mods thread. maybe we can hear his point of view in another thread. i respect josex so id listen to him with open ears.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy]
#24848132 - 12/15/17 03:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had genuine questions but I dont want to drift away from this threads topic either, was just hoping for more informational discussion than "don´t think so much" especially when there is potentially new information lurking around about FAE,I´d really like to know in this thread or somewhere else. Reason why I "think too much" is cause i´m not yet 100% comfortable in what I´m doing.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja]
#24848246 - 12/15/17 04:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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The best answer is developing a feel for it. We don't measure FAE.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24848290 - 12/15/17 04:21 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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They’re all coming out around 8g each completely dried.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: AllCaps333]
#24848313 - 12/15/17 04:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mateja] 1
#24848370 - 12/15/17 05:15 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mateah said:
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Josex said: I'm such a blasphemous puck so I'd better shut up, cos I think FAE is hugely, sooo hugely overrated.

JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!
(don´tpussy out now)
I was bussy is all. It's just that there's only so much oxygen the organism can take and use and it does that at its own damn slow pace. Exposing it to too much air won't make it metabolize the oxygen faster or more efficiently, it can only dry things out faster and make you work harder to maintain the humidity. The few open air grows I did were stressful as hell and I didn't notice an iota of a difference.
I don't live where I grow and sometimes I'd be forced to leave my tubs alone for long hours, even days, so I was forced to gradually reduce the exposure to the air of the room in order to avoid finding a dry mess when I came back.
IMO, holes in tubs are a joke, unless you need/want to stack them. An unmodified tub is all you need. I prep the sub slightly on the wet side of field capacity, mix with the spawn, add the pseudo-casing, close the lid and forget about the tub till is colonized. When it looks like it's about to explode I flip the lid and that's about it, maybe I'd crack it some if I see there's surface moisture to spare or if the pinset comes in heavy. A well prepped sub will ensure proper surface conditions are maintained in a natural way and spraying water should be done sparingly IMO, no need to desecrate a nice surface just because.
If you have to mist a lot because the surface dries out you can be sure you're doing something wrong, unless you're dealing with a water hog, in which case you can add a simple casing and problem solved.
A stupid analogy I often picture in my head is a tub big enough for a human to fit in. Leave the lid upside down and that person won't suffocate, and we're talking a human, that metabolizes oxygen orders of magnitude faster than mycelium. Myc is virtually anaerobic if we compare it with a human being. I'm not saying FAE is not needed, it's just that the organism does not need as much as some people make it to be these days.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Josex]
#24848410 - 12/15/17 05:40 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josex said: When it looks like it's about to explode I flip the lid and that's about it, maybe I'd crack it some if I see there's surface moisture to spare or if the pinset comes in heavy. A well prepped sub will ensure proper surface conditions are maintained in a natural way and spraying water should be done sparingly IMO, no need to desecrate a nice surface just because.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24848492 - 12/15/17 06:32 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: The best answer is developing a feel for it. We don't measure FAE.
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AllCaps333 said:

They’re all coming out around 8g each completely dried. 
That's anomalous unless Penis Envy right? You're saying you essentially cut off FAE and your fruits turned out better.. This thread is radical.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: psiameze] 1
#24848502 - 12/15/17 06:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not sealed up 3/4th flush fruits
The first three pictures came off of a sub tossed in the trash. They grew out of the top of a trash can. In basically open air.
 
You'll get big fruits in your late flushes sealed up or not.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: psiameze]
#24848507 - 12/15/17 06:43 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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What's old is new.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JHOVA]
#24848515 - 12/15/17 06:50 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Unmodified 32q
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Variegated]
#24848516 - 12/15/17 06:52 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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