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Taz42790
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Reason, I wanted to.
Fact, them booties are fly and keep my foot fungus away from my... fungus..
Purpose, to let the world know that booties are a wonderful accessory that will forever be there to protect not only your shoes and feet, but one day your heart. Booties do not discriminate, they come in all kinds of different colors, textures, and have a personality all their own. Cold day and your fingers to sore to tie shoe strings? Booties.
I am just one of them there super noobs who do dumb shhh for some reason cause I am excited about mycology.
Either way let me know what you think of the tubs? No signs of pinning yet and the straw tubs seem to look dark grey, almost green, from a distance but when I look closer with better lighting you can not see the color difference.
Coir Tub looking good and I just got a light set up for 12/12. 5000K Daylight CFL. Not quite the 6500K but I am excited to see what a consistent light schedule does.
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Aunit
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: Taz42790]
#24768882 - 11/08/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone care to give an opinion on this?
spawned 5 days ago.


Are the little white dots knots already? Also how do surface conditions look and wall conditions. Trying to get it dialed in.
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tombosley8
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: Aunit]
#24768900 - 11/08/17 10:29 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I think I see primordia and they look great for 5 days!maybe slightly bacterial but nothing to be worried about. keep us updated. Think you'll be seeing some pins in a few days.
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Edited by tombosley8 (11/08/17 10:30 AM)
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Aunit
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Awesome. How can you tell it looks slightly bacterial?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: Aunit]
#24768937 - 11/08/17 10:41 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Aunit said: Anyone care to give an opinion on this?
spawned 5 days ago.


Are the little white dots knots already? Also how do surface conditions look and wall conditions. Trying to get it dialed in.
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tombosley8
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I was thinking the uncolonized patches and the slightly brighter white patches could be ever so slightly infected but like I said don't worry about it. LOOKING GOOD! And I may be overly looking for something wrong.
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Edited by tombosley8 (11/08/17 10:44 AM)
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Aunit
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Me right now!
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AllCaps333
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: Aunit]
#24769839 - 11/08/17 05:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I had a massive fail with 3 recent tubs - have no clue what happened. They all turned yellow and bacterial on the casing, and though microscopic pins are here and there, they are growing maybe a cetimeter a day, nothing at all like when I first started this and did trays in a shotgun, where I had massive, healthy fruits.
I’m starting to think my house is just way too dry for this tek. Using %100 verm as a casing has been the only way I get it to work, and even then it can really deform the fruits. My spawn is always %100 clean.
Also, right when I spawn, 3 days later the tub is literally drenched in water on the inside, it’ll literally start raining in it. I took the seal out of two new tubs I started hoping this offshoots it a little (I may be heavy handed on field capacity.) It’s just all went downhill for me and I don’t know what to do.
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Aunit
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Bod do you mist the walls or the substrate?
I've been misting over the top of the tub and letting the light mist rain down onto the sub. Im more aiming at the walls as opposed to aiming at the sub.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: Aunit]
#24770024 - 11/08/17 07:03 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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My grow room is super dry
Mist the substrate. Walls don't grow.
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Aunit
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: My grow room is super dry
Mist the substrate. Walls don't grow.
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Phoenix20
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: Aunit]
#24771904 - 11/09/17 04:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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So as far as lighting, can I do any light as long as it has this bulb?
I have a clip on desk light already, it can sit on top of the tub just fine. but do I need a specific wattage or something?
Edited by Phoenix20 (11/09/17 04:36 PM)
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Aunit
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Yes as long as as the lamp can support at least 26 watts of power then you are fine.
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BirdSpore
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Figured I'd finally check in [Re: Aunit]
#24777681 - 11/12/17 11:45 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is day 7 since I spawned to the tub with 5.5qts of penis envy rye grain. I think it looks eh-ok. I probably used a little too much coir & water but I used more spawn so I thought it would be ok may be a little behind though because of it. Hope its looking good to you and others for a first time myc grower.
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JHOVA
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Re: Figured I'd finally check in [Re: BirdSpore] 1
#24777751 - 11/12/17 12:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Welcome to the shroomery Birdspore.
If you leave the lid upside down it should air out just fine, even if over field capacity.
Cant wait for to see your pinset
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AllCaps333
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Re: Figured I'd finally check in [Re: JHOVA]
#24778384 - 11/12/17 05:44 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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2 new tubs:

I tried it with the lids upside down this time because I tend to be a little heavy on the water and my tubs tend to rain. Personally, since starting this hobby, I’ve dealt with the substrate gaining fussy mycelium or bacteria all over the top, which then turns to a mattifified blockade with the slightest hint of any moisture.
I’ve done a ton of studying my own tubs, and I’ve come to realize that knots and stuff are a load of crock. When the substrate has done its own thing for awhile, and if there’s still small slits of soil that are still visible, then little tiny bulbs will pop up through the visible parts of the soil and turn into pins. Mattified mycelium seems to stop this and attract bacteria and mold, also preventing pins and/or forcing the pins to sprout through the layer, which then causes the mushroom to grow either deformed or with bacteria crawling all over it, which impacts growth it seenms.
Also, overlay just plain makes it hard to regulate climate.
WhatI suspect is the best form of substrate mycelium is when it consolidates in a webbed fashion even with the soil, and like arms reaching through the soil, leaving some soil slits barely open all the way through. I wouldn’t say that mycelium has to “eat up” all the soil in order to tell itself that it’s consolidated. It would seem that all the mycelium webs just have to end up all touching each other at some point.
I’ve found that pins simply love to pop up in gaps between the mycelium where soil is actually visible. And to create this effect, wouldn’t it be a good thing to go fairly “light” on the grains, at least on the top layer, so that there’s not just a mass of mycelium blocking things on the top? I’ve just never had good results with the top layer being a big fuzzy teddy bear.
And if bacteria simply causes that then it’s my bag of grain having some sort of organic-based bacteria that the company put in there, and/or it’s the coir, I do everythng very clean and by the book, there’s nothing in my teks that I can imagine is messing it up, my jars themselves always look master quality.
I also have had my share of side pins so I can see first hand how mushies form. Essentially, once the mycelium sits there in an evironment where there’s high moisture, little white dots form (they tend to only happen below the soil) and it seems more a reaction to the pressence of trapped steam and soil microbes and nutrients. I’ve never had a pin develop from misting and such. But if it were to happen, it’d be from those mist droplets touching “soil” and not just landing on what is essentially a mat of silly string on top of the soil.
Just, if I’m onto something here, I don’t know how to get my substrate to consolidate while actually forcing it to leave tiny gaps where soil is visible, like “between” arms of mycelium. I had to go in one of the new tubs and re-press the edges to prevent tons of sidepin moisture, and when I pressed on the already formed mycelium with a gloved hand, the excessively fuzzy stuff vanished and it turned to actual sturdy arms of mycelium level with the soil, but leaving some soil visible.
But then those spota all got fuzzy again a few days later. I’m actually thinking my substrate right now is “too” loose, and that at least the top layer should be a “little” flat and firm so that the mycelium has appropriate soil and solidarity to “grab” onto rather than just growing up into the air. That firmness would allow it to grab on and override bacteria, rather than trying to escape it. Because I don’t give a damn, every single substrate on this planet, every pile of cow crap and every forrest floor, and every tub, has bacteria in it wether we like it or not.
Just, I know on my end, somethings not adding up. Maybe it’s just the air in my house isn’t right for this tek. But I had the same problems even with manure in a shotgun. The only difference is that once the pins came in with manure, they took off and became massive world-record fruits even with a nasty looking top layer of substrate. With coir and this tek, it’s not anywhere near as forgiving.
And I’ve tried everything. It’s not wether I misted or not. And I’m not bashing on this tek at all, it’s the only one out there that’s been realistically even feasable for me since I don’t even have the money to own a drill, but I have to figure out what’s going wrong, because with studying how pins actually develop on a hourly basis with my own eye, something seems to be completely different than what folks seem to say on here.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I just need to know how to make my grows right.
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Variegated
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Them straw tubs look like a box of cheddar cheese..made me hungry lol
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justhavefun
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My tub is @80%,however, the uncolonized parts are at the bottom only due to not mixing and spawn properly, should i fruiting anyway or wait for 100%?
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beancake
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: justhavefun]
#24779393 - 11/13/17 07:58 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I started some new tubs a week ago, all jars smelled very mushroomy prior to adding to coir substrate. The 2nd day it looked like myc was reforming on the grains. And then everything seemed to stop. Today I took a big whiff and it smelled sweet and alcoholic (fermented) with no progress in colonization since the first 24 hours.
I did not notice excess moisture in jars, nor in the substrate (water would only drip out if squeezed), no standing water in bottom of tub.
I had lids closed the whole time. Ambient temp 68-72.
I am guessing they are done, just trying to figure where they went wrong. Thanks!
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bodhisatta 
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Quote:
justhavefun said: My tub is @80%,however, the uncolonized parts are at the bottom only due to not mixing and spawn properly, should i fruiting anyway or wait for 100%?
Whatever you want its your tub
@bean Bad spawn obviously
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