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dhype773
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Variegated]
#24663558 - 09/27/17 08:34 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I put some Cambodian and Aa+ in the same brf cake. Is looking crazy as all hell, but I've got pins coming in. Don't know if they will be a cross or just one or the other.
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steelheadwill

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: dhype773]
#24666839 - 09/28/17 12:03 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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dhype773 said: I put some Cambodian and Aa+ in the same brf cake. Is looking crazy as all hell, but I've got pins coming in. Don't know if they will be a cross or just one or the other.
I was thinking of trying a "hybrid" myself,(likely the wrong term for mixing two fungal varieties in one) Noted this was not recommended as they fight to colonize, as they would with any contam. Likely outdated, as I didn't check posting dates at first. Looking forward to seeing how it works for you! Peace.
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Edited by steelheadwill (09/28/17 12:10 PM)
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Boogieman47
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: steelheadwill]
#24666845 - 09/28/17 12:08 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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steelheadwill said:
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dhype773 said: I put some Cambodian and Aa+ in the same brf cake. Is looking crazy as all hell, but I've got pins coming in. Don't know if they will be a cross or just one or the other.
I was thinking of trying a "hybrid" myself,(likely the wrong term for mixing two fungal varieties in one) Noted this was not recommended as they fight to colonize, as they would with any contam. Likely outdated, as I didn't check posting dates at first. Looking forward to seeing how it works for you! Peace.
All mixing two types of spawn with do is give you the 2 types in one grow they arent going to fight each other ... crossing varieties has to be done with spores and then a long road of stabilizing
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steelheadwill

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Boogieman47]
#24666866 - 09/28/17 12:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks, I WAS looking at an old post then. Do you have particular reason for starting bulks w cakes? I did several this way, only because I had a backlog of colonized pints, After exhausting that supply I've been using agar to grain/wbs as it's said to be faster. Lookin forward, Peace.
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steelheadwill

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Boogieman47]
#24666882 - 09/28/17 12:21 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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"All mixing two types of spawn with do is give you the 2 types in one grow they arent going to fight each other ... crossing varieties has to be done with spores and then a long road of stabilizing" I assumed dhype 773 was inoculating cakes w two multispore types, I've not yet heard of inoculating pf cakes w spawn. Will inoculating two 'types' of Spores in any media result in the battle for supremacy?
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Edited by steelheadwill (09/28/17 12:29 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: steelheadwill]
#24666896 - 09/28/17 12:27 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's no battles theyre the same species the spores have absolutely no way of telling their man given names apart.
You can mix spores or mix mycelium to obtain what would be a varietal hybrid(not a true hybrid)
There are incompatible mating types but no fighting.
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steelheadwill

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24666919 - 09/28/17 12:33 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you bod, Wow there's some bad info in old postings, Now i can stop blowin up you thread with
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steelheadwill

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24666926 - 09/28/17 12:35 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Qayyn Eb-Ur
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#24668534 - 09/28/17 10:22 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I could CRY.
its so beautiful
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mushroom_mode
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Qayyn Eb-Ur] 1
#24668949 - 09/29/17 05:37 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello, thanks for the great post. I was wondering how the fruiting is induced? I thought the fruiting takes place when more FAE is introduced (i.e. taking off the lid) but you mentioned that you take off the lid every time you are home?
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from my understanding gas exchange is necessary for colonisation and FAE induces fruiting. How is gas exchange provided in this tech for the colonisation stage? Thanks in advance!
Edited by mushroom_mode (09/29/17 04:24 PM)
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travishibachi
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushroom_mode]
#24686700 - 10/05/17 06:55 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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With the lid flipped upside down (with this specific sterilite container) there are gaps between the locking mechanisms so there is adequate GE. As long as the seal is not airtight that is sufficient. I bought a cheap Rubbermaid container for like $4 to use for my monotub and I had plenty of GE during colonization. There is space between the lid and the container.
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Variegated
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: travishibachi]
#24686725 - 10/05/17 07:06 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright just checked the tub and i got loads of sode pins. The sub has not pulled away from the tub. I understand why you get aide pins but how can i go about not having this happen with out useing a liner? Other than that my first un mod bod tub has went well
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Variegated] 1
#24686727 - 10/05/17 07:07 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Practice makes perfect Some people do it the first time sometimes you don't. Learn from it and do better next time. Chances are its surface conditions and substrate moisture levels
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Variegated
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24686760 - 10/05/17 07:20 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Bod will see what i get and see how the next one goes. I know a few things i wont do again so next time could get it juuust right. Still should get a decent yeild out of this one.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Variegated]
#24686770 - 10/05/17 07:25 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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 trust me I've gotten plenty of side pins in my day figuring it all out. I feel like if you never do goofy tricks to stop side pins you'll sooner learn how to get nice top pinsets the more reliable way
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beancake
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24688490 - 10/06/17 01:16 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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bod!
Thank you!!! First timer here, and very much appreciate your efforts to make it Easy AF. Started some 32 quart bins on the 28th. Today noticed some yellowing on the surface, would appreciate advice from you and community.

Have you posted or can you recommend some photos/videos that show: 1. Proper misting technique 2. How to determine: too dry; should mist; proper moisture; too wet (Are we looking for something specifically such as droplets? Are there other signs and symptoms? 3. Your thoughts on using Parchment/Wax Paper to create a micro-climate. I have viewed other posts and it seems different approaches (large beads, tiny beads...)
4. Have been putting boxes by a westward facing window for light. Get enough light for house plants, will this be sufficient? (Intensity slowly getting stronger during the day, but duration is decreasing as we progress into fall.
5. Would be helpful to see a series of pics showing different percentages of colonization. Are we determining percentage from all views: top, sides, bottom? What percentage would you say is colonized in my pic? My initial thoughts were that at 100% I would no longer see any brown from the coir. If so then at 80% colonized, 20% brown would still be showing?
Again Thank You! bc
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: beancake]
#24688571 - 10/06/17 01:50 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. No just mist it theres no technique. Spray and dont soak it
2. Youll be able to tell by look after a few grows.
3. Fuck no
4. Probably but I like artificial lighting
5. Cant tell from your pic. Take a picture of the whole surface
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beancake
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24688652 - 10/06/17 02:28 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks. Above is pic of total surface. What about the yellow?
Edited by beancake (10/06/17 02:41 PM)
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mushroom_mode
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: travishibachi]
#24689167 - 10/06/17 06:12 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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travishibachi said: With the lid flipped upside down (with this specific sterilite container) there are gaps between the locking mechanisms so there is adequate GE. As long as the seal is not airtight that is sufficient. I bought a cheap Rubbermaid container for like $4 to use for my monotub and I had plenty of GE during colonization. There is space between the lid and the container.
so the lid is never put on 'right-way-up', it's kept upside down for the entire colonisation and fruiting period?
someone on another thread told me that the lid is only flipped at 80% colonisation which seems like a misinterpretation of the OP.
thanks
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beancake
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushroom_mode]
#24689188 - 10/06/17 06:22 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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After mixing grain spawn with substrate in tub put lid on as it was "meant" to work, will fit snugly, could latch it closed if desired.
Then when 80% colonized flip the lid upside down.
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