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sherpashaman
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: shumer44]
#24488115 - 07/16/17 06:36 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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shumer44 said: 5 days colonization. I believe it looks good. Maybe around 90%-95% colonized. 
Sides and the bottom of the coir is also colonized without any problem, unlike my previous tub.
Placed now into fruiting stage.

i just made two tubs yesterday evening (my first tubs ever), and i'm curious about how your moisture content was on this tub.. did you weight your coir brick and water going in? i quite stupidly just went assuming the bricks were all properly 650g like the package says, but it's likely that each brick is slightly off..
brick 1 - 4.5 quarts boiling water > felt a bit dry, a gentle squeeze made water drip out, but it reabsorbed quickly. Brick 2 - 4.25 quarts boiling water > would drip more under feather-light squeezing, reabsoberd it reasonably fast.
brick 1 seemed a little thicker, and went into tub 1 brick 2 seemed a little thinner, went into tub 2.
tub1 is like a half inch deeper sub across the whole thing than tub 2.

(ignore heater in way, see depth toward edges) (also, it's very level inside, it just looks crooked in the pics)
i'm really curious as to what ratio exactly of water to coir gets the best results. i'm going to track what happens with mine, and experiment with a bit of extra water, like in my minitupp, which the coir was pretty wet for
but it's really happy with the extra moisture.

i just gave the gentlest of squeezes so that it wouldn't drip all over while handling it, and left some extra water behind in the camping cooler where it sat with the boiled water.
i'm going to experiment with the coir next couple days when i make another couple tubs with extra water, drop out extra above FC into an intermediary bowl, then measure the total water used minus the leftover water to determine a field capacity ratio just to make it more exact going forward..
comparing the weight of the brick used to the amount of water it took for that weight to hit FC, do this for every single tub over time, and calculate an average..
feeling a bit foolish i forgot to weight the bricks for the first two tubs. that'll teach me for trusting labels...
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shumer44


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: sherpashaman]
#24488227 - 07/16/17 07:28 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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sherpashaman said:
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shumer44 said: 5 days colonization. I believe it looks good. Maybe around 90%-95% colonized. 
Sides and the bottom of the coir is also colonized without any problem, unlike my previous tub.
Placed now into fruiting stage.

i just made two tubs yesterday evening (my first tubs ever), and i'm curious about how your moisture content was on this tub.. did you weight your coir brick and water going in? i quite stupidly just went assuming the bricks were all properly 650g like the package says, but it's likely that each brick is slightly off..
I actually have this one...
https://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Outdoor-Living/Yard-Maintenance/Soil-Amendment-Stone/Soil/Peat-Moss/5kg-Beyond-Peat-Coir-Coconut-Fibre-Soil-Supplement/_/N-ntln3/No-48/R-I5053990?Num=1
It has 4 coir layers inside the packaging, so resulting in roughly 1.25kg each layer i believe, so what i do is break each layer in half and followed this guide..
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24077162
using 4 quart boiling water. after a day, i was ready to mix the coir and spawn, but noticed the coir was little bit dry, so i used my mist spray bottle to mist the coir evenly until there were some drips of water coming out of the coir when squeezed.
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sherpashaman
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: shumer44]
#24488550 - 07/16/17 10:42 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks.
I just put two boilbuckets to bed for the night, i realized i don't have a scale that can read theweight , but the bricks were slightly thicker than normal, i'm guessing closer to 700g and i put 4.5 quarts in one and 5 quarts in the other. They soaked it all right up and i'll see how they are tomorrow when i tub them with jars.
One thing i'm curious about is how hydration and ratio will play out..
I'm using 6 jars 3/4 full to each brick.
So 4.5q of actual spawn to about 8-9q of coir.
About a 1:2 ratio when i read a fair bit about a 1:3 ratio. I'm curious about yield and how the grow will play out humiditywise
As far as i know, most water will be pulled from the coir, so i would almost think that a slightly above FC coir would be good for tubbing because it rehydrates the grain that has been making mycelium, making it all a bit more hydrated from the start.
Especially since my sub is also a little deeper because the extra quart or so of spawn being used..
I haven't read ip on depth of sub in regards to yield and growth characteristics but i'm interested in how other people's grows go.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: sherpashaman]
#24491572 - 07/18/17 12:14 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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tub from appx 60hrs ago
b+, 6qt jars 3/4 full 700g coir 4.5qt boiled water bucket tek

B+ tubs that are nice and level inside, just look rough at the edges.

the tubs on the right are all the tiniest bit wetter than the tubs on the left, and each shelf was done a day apart, going to see which tubs go the fastest when sharing identical conditions and variety all around, with the only variable being the coir. will share results when they come in =)
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shumer44


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: sherpashaman]
#24492544 - 07/18/17 07:26 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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^ looks nice, im still waiting for pins in my tub, hoping they pop out fast
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: shumer44]
#24492705 - 07/18/17 08:24 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well my first one is a disaster of bluish and yellowish zones from getting it too wet and then too dry while trying to dry out the wetness. After 4 or so cycles of that madness I've got quite a swirling mess of colors on the surface, but by God I got a smattering of pins today.
My second tub is already doing better as I learn from my mistakes and tone down my heavy hand. We will have to see how big the pinset on the first tub gets and compare it to how the second one does.
Embarrassing showing this first go around, but here's a pic...
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jyphotog
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: AtomHeart]
#24494585 - 07/19/17 05:01 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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One of my tubs is about to start pinning in a few days. I have noticed a small amount of mold in the corner. Is there anything I can do to save it?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jyphotog]
#24494588 - 07/19/17 05:03 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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jyphotog said: One of my tubs is about to start pinning in a few days. I have noticed a small amount of mold in the corner. Is there anything I can do to save it?
Pics?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Steevo]
#24494624 - 07/19/17 05:16 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jyphotog]
#24494666 - 07/19/17 05:31 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks soaking wet
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JHOVA]
#24494803 - 07/19/17 06:24 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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sprayed them... To wet?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#24495149 - 07/19/17 09:54 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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My 1st B+ unbodhified tub has given 236g dry so far and keeps pinning/fruiting/maturing. I'm on flush maybe 3.5? It keeps going. One day there'll be nothing and two days later massive fruits with a lot of clusters. Side pins have been a bitch but they're growing so large they've actually been fairly easy to harvest.
My 2nd B+ unbodhified tub I'm pretty sure went bacterial. It's got one fruit the rest is slightly yellow with odd growths.. it's in a separate part of the house producing lots of myc piss and I'll let it go for maybe another week and if nothing happens, I'll toss.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: OldNuts]
#24495312 - 07/19/17 11:46 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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jyphotog
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: johney89]
#24496182 - 07/20/17 11:41 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now I have mold in two tubs. Should I abort those?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: jyphotog]
#24496232 - 07/20/17 12:08 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#24496241 - 07/20/17 12:11 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just a couple questions bro. So you cut out no holes and get your FAE by just flipping the lid upside down?
When you say put the lid at a 90 degree angle exactly what does that mean? Sorry-
In your results pictures, are you simply grabbing the liner and raising the whole block? What is the block sitting on? It's just hard to tell by the photos that aspect. Thank you
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: MacPappy]
#24496257 - 07/20/17 12:22 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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MacPappy
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#24496265 - 07/20/17 12:27 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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surface conditions are very important. You can't simply whip one of these together and expect it to work with no experience, no eye for things, no mycologist's green thumb. Skill plays a roll as much as methods. You also need to be able to produce clean spawn.
I have read a ton of post about the RH. Question, If the surface area is moist and has that glistening look is it suffice to say that the air around the surface area is 100% RH? So one should not be concerned if the whole inside of the tub doesn't read 100% RH
I am tired of fighting the RH and if what I have asked is correct as long as the surface area is moist with visual signs of moisture and I fan accordingly everything should turn out ok?
Thanks
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: MacPappy]
#24496609 - 07/20/17 03:46 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just did two tubs. Should I flip the lid right away? (I think so) or have it on and close it, not close it? Sorry if this was already answered I can't find out though. Thanks.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: GoldMold]
#24496725 - 07/20/17 04:38 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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I personally go to fruiting conditions at about 80% colonization
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