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kryptopunk69
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Goatrider]
#27693619 - 03/13/22 10:19 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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The giude says 7q of spawn per 54q tub, does this mean we can use a minimum of 4 and be just fine?
I wonder where did bodhisatta come up with 7
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: kryptopunk69]
#27693746 - 03/13/22 12:25 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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kryptopunk69 said: The giude says 7q of spawn per 54q tub, does this mean we can use a minimum of 4 and be just fine?
I wonder where did bodhisatta come up with 7 
I saw 5qt. Most usually does 4-5. I think any more is overkill.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: tom613931]
#27694318 - 03/13/22 09:19 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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tom613931 said: (This is my first attempt at cultivation)
12 pints of substrate inoculated on 02/10/2022 with Z+. Started to see mushrooms growing in the jars around 03/09/2022 so the next day I went ahead and put the spawn into one of Bods unmodified tubs with 650g coir.
One question I had was looking over Bods material he says colonization and fruiting conditions are kept the same, so should I be worried about misting in the first few days or only once I start to see the hyphal knots etc.. ?
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You shouldn’t have to worry about misting at first. Your coir tek should keep the substrate hydrated enough to get through most of the colonization period IME in a dry climate.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: SwabMarley] 1
#27695353 - 03/14/22 05:52 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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It's 7 here - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24161727#24161727
It was posted in 2017..
I'm inclined to think that more jars (6-7) would speed up the colonization.
I mean more spawn means more area covered or it doesn't work that way?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: SpooksD]
#27695533 - 03/14/22 07:47 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: kryptopunk69]
#27697158 - 03/16/22 01:22 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I've been running 6-6.5 quarts of spawn using this tek with great success. The idea of using lets say 5 quarts per tub sounds very appealing. But correct me if I'm wrong, more grain in the final substrate mixture should lead to a higher quantity or a higher quality in fruits since there is more nutrients there for the mycelium to eat up. From my understanding the coir doesn't do much besides act as a moisture reservoir for the mushroom to use up as they need it.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Justagrowing]
#27697195 - 03/16/22 02:54 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Justagrowing said: But correct me if I'm wrong, more grain in the final substrate mixture should lead to a higher quantity or a higher quality in fruits since there is more nutrients there for the mycelium to eat up. From my understanding the coir doesn't do much besides act as a moisture reservoir for the mushroom to use up as they need it.
Not quite correct, that depends on the total volume. You don´t want a higher ratio (more spawn) than 1:2 (spawn:substrate), cause it will lead to a poor yield. Right moisture content is as important as axenic spawn. Anything from 1:2-1:4 and even higher will do the trick, with providing the maximum moisture holding capacity against gravity.
The nutes from the grains are enough, they even won´t be used up completely 
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Goatrider]
#27697230 - 03/16/22 04:19 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Goatrider said:
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Justagrowing said: But correct me if I'm wrong, more grain in the final substrate mixture should lead to a higher quantity or a higher quality in fruits since there is more nutrients there for the mycelium to eat up. From my understanding the coir doesn't do much besides act as a moisture reservoir for the mushroom to use up as they need it.
Not quite correct, that depends on the total volume. You don´t want a higher ratio (more spawn) than 1:2 (spawn:substrate), cause it will lead to a poor yield. Right moisture content is as important as axenic spawn. Anything from 1:2-1:4 and even higher will do the trick, with providing the maximum moisture holding capacity against gravity.
The nutes from the grains are enough, they even won´t be used up completely 

 It all really comes down to the surface area of the bottom of your tub. A good rule of thumb is that your sub wants to be anywhere from about 2”-4” thick.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#27697402 - 03/16/22 08:34 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Day number 2 on bulk spawn using BOD’s TEK Temp is around 71F and my house maintains 50-60 RH without me misting or doing anything. The whole top layer is covered with Ariel mycelium. Is this normal? Do I need to do anything?
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Bonerjamz]
#27697445 - 03/16/22 09:26 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Bonerjamz said: Do I need to do anything?

Be patient and maintain the proper surface conditions after it is fully colonized.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: PBJ710]
#27697468 - 03/16/22 09:54 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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PBJ710 said:
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Bonerjamz said: Do I need to do anything?

Be patient and maintain the proper surface conditions after it is fully colonized.
Thank you!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#27699287 - 03/17/22 06:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Is their anything I can do to increase pins in this grow? My moisture looks pretty good, but not getting a lot of pins. FAE seems okay too. But it’s my first grow so who knows. I haven’t made any adjustments/modifications from Bods tek , trying to just let it be, but also want to maximize results if I can take some action to improve it.
Link to grow on shroomery
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: tom613931]
#27699597 - 03/17/22 11:04 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Yep thinking maybe Sterilite has changed design? I have recently started 2x 54qt mono boxes and at short end theres quite a gap. Have been using duct tape to seal during colonisation so still 4 gaps were snap locks are. Thinking about getting some gap seal tape approx 5mm to place on inside rim to reduce gap a bit.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: aroundtheworld]
#27699605 - 03/17/22 11:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I think I might have a similar tub to that, on mine I flip two latches up and set the lid right side up on them and it leaves a nice even gap all the way around.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: aroundtheworld]
#27699735 - 03/18/22 04:40 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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aroundtheworld said: Yep thinking maybe Sterilite has changed design? I have recently started 2x 54qt mono boxes and at short end theres quite a gap. Have been using duct tape to seal during colonisation so still 4 gaps were snap locks are. Thinking about getting some gap seal tape approx 5mm to place on inside rim to reduce gap a bit.

Have you purchased these before and didnt have that gap? I asked this question as well recently after seeing the gap around the perimeter, and the feedback I got was that it was fine. The post directly above yours goes to my first grow using this tek. I dont think I had the best spawn going into it, and having some side pins but overall seems okay for first time ever.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: tom613931]
#27700468 - 03/18/22 04:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Have never purchased these containers before as first grow but from reading the tek looked like was mainly just gaps near where the handles were. Surface was drying a bit so have now replaced lid right side down with gasket removed. Thanks for reply, i probably could have answered my own question if had read through the 200 plus pages!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#27743054 - 04/20/22 02:34 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Hey bod, thanks a lot for the write up und thanks to the community for all the information. A real eye-opener! I'm trying this method for the first time and don't have a lot of experience. The result so far is amazing compared to the effort I put in! In hindsight, I used too little grain spawn (rye) and didn't work as sterile as possible. A few questions:
1) When do you guys think is a good time to harvest? I used to harvest around now, but I have massive side-pins and would like to give them some more time. The information on potency and harvest time seems inconclusive.
2) What are the white and dark spots on the fruit? Mycelium and water drops? Some contamination?
3) Why did they grow so small? I have them up a shelf, because I have a small child. So only indirect lighting. Might that be a factor? Again, mybe from contamination of sorts?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Yamantaka]
#27743061 - 04/20/22 02:55 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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For a first timer that´s an amazing result, congrats 
I usually harvest everything off, to set it up for another flush. If you want to take prints, let the caps flatten out like in your pic. Could have harvested earlier, but that´s totally up to you. I wouldn´t make brains about potency, it always varies from fruit to fruit, unless you have a very stable culture. Getting them dry fast is more important when talking potency.
You mean the spots on the caps? The dark are just moisture drips. Can turn into bacterial contam. The present helpful bacteria will turn into an enemy, if they have standing water on their caps over time. Yours are fine. The white is just mycelium and often remnants of universal veil, protection tissue from early development stage.
Yours look fine. Direct lightning won´t make them grow bigger. Healthy spawn, water and good conditions, eeverything else is genetic lottery. Seems you made all of them mostly. Sidepins aren´t bad 
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Goatrider]
#27743611 - 04/20/22 12:56 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice!
I just harvested 900g wet... That's rediculous! What a difference to what I did before.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Yamantaka] 1
#27745542 - 04/21/22 05:00 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Are you floating the cake in a water tub??
Holy fuck thats awesome almost a kilogram of mushrooms!
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