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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: metatronscube]
#27550661 - 11/20/21 04:54 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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It´s knotting up, so it´ll pin soon.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Goatrider]
#27550700 - 11/20/21 06:28 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks. Thats what I was thinking but was just looking for more experienced eyes to give an opinion. Thanks again mate.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: metatronscube]
#27550713 - 11/20/21 06:44 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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No problem. Just keep an eye on your surface to have tiny water pearls all over.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Goatrider]
#27550730 - 11/20/21 07:01 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah… was seeing that. Although too much condensation was dripping from underside of lid. So, I took it off and dried it then put it back on with more of an air gap. The lids I have dont have gaskets anyway so dont really seal.
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#27550881 - 11/20/21 08:56 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: savan73]
#27550939 - 11/20/21 09:50 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Goatrider said: Bacteria loves h2o and stall air
What is stall air? Bacteria loves h2o yeah. I'm curious about o2 and co2.
"Co2 during colonization is good for bad spawn if bacterias loves o2."
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"Right away fruiting conditions good for bad spawn if bacterias loves co2."
Which one is true?
Stall air = Stagnant air = not enough FAE
Aerobic bacteria require oxygen, but O2 can be toxic to anaerobic bacteria. It just depends on which bacteria is causing the issues.
Moisture is the key universal factor in bacteria mobility.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: PBJ710]
#27550977 - 11/20/21 10:34 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that’s supposed to say stale.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: PBJ710]
#27551779 - 11/20/21 10:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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PBJ710 said:
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savan73 said:
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Goatrider said: Bacteria loves h2o and stall air
What is stall air? Bacteria loves h2o yeah. I'm curious about o2 and co2.
"Co2 during colonization is good for bad spawn if bacterias loves o2."
OR
"Right away fruiting conditions good for bad spawn if bacterias loves co2."
Which one is true?
Stall air = Stagnant air = not enough FAE
Aerobic bacteria require oxygen, but O2 can be toxic to anaerobic bacteria. It just depends on which bacteria is causing the issues.
Moisture is the key universal factor in bacteria mobility.
Hell yeah, same time i was on another thread with a cobweb topic. I think that´s why i added stall air  I´ll switch to "stale" from now on 
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Munchauzen]
#27574065 - 12/08/21 08:37 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Love your BLI teK. Use the easy as 123 agar
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: BloodThirstyPoodle]
#27597640 - 12/28/21 04:16 PM (2 years, 30 days ago) |
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Live in a desert too. I use 800g coir and 4 liters of water. 4 or 5 myco qts of spawn. Leave lid normal not latched until I see knots. That stopped it happening to me. Used to have same resault. Tried misting it away. Everything would be matted down and lots of side pins
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: dAddYbAddY]
#27599437 - 12/30/21 05:15 AM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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First of all i must confess that im having serious issues with not drilling/cutting/melting holes into theese tubs. Just the thought of no holes in a mono feels audacious after 10 years with various setups, but it works.

The one to the right has holes, old classic holes. made the sub abit to deep and it looks like its gonna be a sidepin bonanza. But a pin is a pin and will result in fruitbodys. It is also pinning quite nicely on top, so lets not worry. ( hard to see on pic but knots are hiding evenly spreadout under the fluff )


The other 2 untampered seem to have less but sufficient FAE and are moving slower towards hyphae/pins . the left one has since today an Alu strip under the lid to create a slightly longer gap and more fae. maybe it will start to knot/pin abit faster.


and mr crushed + tejp corner is the one who is doing the best so far :P if you look close you will se alot of white spots all over. and 0 sidepins. i guess the thin sub + enough fae in the start helps 


They are all spawned with same sub, APEU, rye/coir 50/50, same date 20th dec.
Its really nice to be able to physically see how different they perform with the "slight" different FAE variables they have. My ojective beyond fruits is to dial in the BoD UnMod tubs. It would be so nice to "quit" fanning/spraying and not have the FAE paranoia chasing me in my non myco life.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: soppos]
#27599445 - 12/30/21 05:23 AM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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and now the "fun" / dreadful part of this run is to leave theese tubs for 3 days and just pray to the mycelium to behave while im gone..
at least they all have some Fae and are reacting normally but abit different. they smell great and have good growth overall. i still feel anxious though
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: soppos]
#27610847 - 01/07/22 06:40 PM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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Just a curious question for all. I have the same tubs but swiss cheesed them before seeing this TEK. Anyways I worry about contaminates getting in with the flipped lid. I have two Golden Retriever's and they run around like loons kicking up dust and dander. Besides I worry they might knock into the tubs. They are very curious like 2 year olds.
I was thinking of keeping only two holes open diagonal from each other on the tubs. I'm referring to the holes at the top by the handles then covering them with micropore paper tape to mitigate FAE. The holes are small 1 inch diameter. which I figure is close to the gap with the lid upside-down .
I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel. I love this tek and can't wait to try it. Just figured I would ask.
So Glad I found this site
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#27624752 - 01/19/22 03:23 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: It's an attractive part of the mono yes but if you're coming home at least once a day anyway Even with a mono I take the lid off when I'm home.
I’ve been searching for clarification on this statement but can’t seem to find a definitive answer. Does anyone have an idea of what Bod means by this, or does anyone have suggestions of what they do that works. Bod says he’ll take the lids of when he’s home. I take this to mean that I would be leaving lids on upside down at night while I’m sleeping, and during the day while I’m at work and then removing them for 6 to 8 hour period when I get back from work. Does this make sense? Or, Is the consensus more like take the lids off for an hour or so?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: DavieTrain]
#27624880 - 01/19/22 05:30 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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Idk for sure but I think it’s more about increase fae when you’re able to keep an eye on it.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: DavieTrain]
#27628077 - 01/22/22 08:17 AM (2 years, 5 days ago) |
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I’ve been searching for clarification on this statement but can’t seem to find a definitive answer. Does anyone have an idea of what Bod means by this, or does anyone have suggestions of what they do that works. Bod says he’ll take the lids of when he’s home. I take this to mean that I would be leaving lids on upside down at night while I’m sleeping, and during the day while I’m at work and then removing them for 6 to 8 hour period when I get back from work. Does this make sense? Or, t your fan or lack thereof and light(convection) right.
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bodhisatta said: It's an attractive part of the mono yes but if you're coming home at least once a day anyway Even with a mono I take the lid off when I'm home.
I didn't catch this till you asked the question but it sounds like he keeps the lid off when he is home. I'm not sure about sleeping but it does sound like he only puts the lid on when he is away for periods of time. This changes how I thought about this TEK. Today I plan to inoculate 5 grain bags and when ready I will be doing one tub exactly like the BOD's Tub TEK. The second tub already has 1 inch holes four on the top and six at the 4 1/2inch level. I plan to plug up the six at the substrate level and keep the top holes open but with filters.
I hope Bod will jump in and clarify how long he keeps the lid off the tub. I thought he just flipped the lid and let it go till harvest.
I am learning so much on this site and the fun of experimenting is also a blast. Plus after my first run I have plenty so I don't worry about failure as much.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: rotor7]
#27628978 - 01/22/22 08:44 PM (2 years, 5 days ago) |
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This is a dumb question so I apologize but do you need to worry about surface conditons as soon as you spawn to bulk in the tub or only after the mycelium has recolonized everything?
Finally set up my first tubs instead of PF tek
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: LysergicFox]
#27629575 - 01/23/22 12:29 PM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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No don’t worry about it til it’s starting to get a lot of surface colonization going.
Good job moving up to bulk, harvest is gonna blow your mind compared to what comes off a pf cake.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a]
#27632752 - 01/25/22 07:49 PM (2 years, 2 days ago) |
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Ok thank you thats what I figured 
I know experience is the best teacher but ill still ask and hopefully not annoy since it's my first time and a little reassurance is always nice haha... is this about what it should look like when I should really start to dial in conditions? Or does this have some time left to consolidate first?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: LysergicFox]
#27633437 - 01/26/22 08:42 AM (2 years, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah that’s pretty well colonized.
It should be making water beads on the surface by that point. If not it’s either too much fae or the coir is a little too dry.
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