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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: hogstomper]
    #27104300 - 12/23/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks very much


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27119678 - 01/01/21 04:59 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

Hey guys, quick question if anyone can help me out... I’m on my first ever grow, following BOD’s Easy AF tek from the first post of this thread. My coir is pasteurising as I’m writing this. Just watched the video linked below about mixing spawn + bulk sub:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=193&v=f_5BvAHQwJY&feature=emb_logo

So what’s got me confused is - BOD’s grain spawn seems barely colonised in this vid. I was under the impression it should be totally white, with barely any grain visible to reduce contam risk? I’m obviously not questioning BOD’s methods but am I missing something? Or was the video just to demonstrate ratios, methods etc? I’ve been waiting days for the last few grains to turn white and wondering if I didn’t need to?

Thanks in advance. So much good information on this site!! :smile:


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Bluetone] * 1
    #27119703 - 01/01/21 05:31 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

he broke it up off camera before doing it if you listen, he only broke up 1 jar on cam(fully colonized will look "barely colonized" after a shake)


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ugdarg]
    #27119913 - 01/01/21 08:43 AM (3 years, 26 days ago)

Ah, thanks ugdarg, that makes sense. Didn’t realise the inside looked like that - I pictured my bags would be white all the way through when I break them up. Good to know. :thumbup:


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Bluetone]
    #27120680 - 01/01/21 04:02 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

Hi Bod, everyone

So I took the time to read about 30 pages of the thread, sorry should have done this sooner to avoid questions.

In the main writeup there is no condition change between colonisation and fruiting but throughout the thread you mention doing so at 80%, which is the up to date advice?

Likewise no mention of having the lid at 90 degrees in the main write up. Is it usually necessary? Or is that the switch to fruiting conditions that is no longer considered necessary?

This is my first ever grow so I'm literally following your tek to a T the best I can, including importing the tubs haha. I will learn and adapt if my conditions mean I have to but I figured literally copying your every move first time round is a good start.

These were best bulbs I could find here. 20w 6500k CFL. They should be good almost touching the tub right?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00Q1CPEZM?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: clockworkshroom]
    #27123855 - 01/03/21 12:46 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

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clockworkshroom said:
Hi Bod, everyone

So I took the time to read about 30 pages of the thread, sorry should have done this sooner to avoid questions.

In the main writeup there is no condition change between colonisation and fruiting but throughout the thread you mention doing so at 80%, which is the up to date advice?

Likewise no mention of having the lid at 90 degrees in the main write up. Is it usually necessary? Or is that the switch to fruiting conditions that is no longer considered necessary?

This is my first ever grow so I'm literally following your tek to a T the best I can, including importing the tubs haha. I will learn and adapt if my conditions mean I have to but I figured literally copying your every move first time round is a good start.

These were best bulbs I could find here. 20w 6500k CFL. They should be good almost touching the tub right?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00Q1CPEZM?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

I can't say thanks enough for everything you've contributed here. Fucking legend





lid on, unlatched.  when you wanna fruit,--just say 80% for peace of mind- flip lid.  watch surface conditions, you can rotate a bit if too wet, opposite if losing too much moisture. some of mine I just took the lid all the way off. ima noob but that's how I did it and how I understand it to work.  p simple.  i started with unmodified, but I'ma try a regular modified mono as well for the next grow to get a better idea of how shit works.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: hogstomper]
    #27123919 - 01/03/21 01:09 PM (3 years, 24 days ago)

Thanks man, I appreciate it. I'm have some brf cakes colonising also and will try watertub Tek and standard shotgun too, it's clearly important to experiment if you want to learn so I'm trying a bit of everything but I have high hopes on this being the one that brings the yields :smile:

Below is bods advice on the very first page, it suggests lid stays upside down for the whole time, no changes at all unless needed.

"after having done some trials I put my tubs into fruiting conditions(lid upside down for air gaps) immediately. I have noticed faster colonization times, faster times to pinning as well. Cubensis is an aerobic organism, While some old books talk about high co2 during colonization my own tests show clearly that FAE right away is superior. Try it out for yourself and do your own side by sides and let the community know.

I now make no distinction between colonization conditions and fruiting conditions. I just chose to call it
Growing Conditions
My tubs do not dry out being in "fruiting conditions" during "colonization"
My yields have stayed the same. My time to full colonization has decreased as has the time to pinning and harvest.
I have always had exposed top grains, doing "fruiting conditions" immediately has not caused an issue even with exposed grains."


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: clockworkshroom]
    #27126115 - 01/04/21 12:46 PM (3 years, 23 days ago)

Hi everyone.
I've searched as much as I can both here and on other forums, and the only thing I've found is one person or two saying to try it.
My question is something I know isn't recommended, but because I have a spare small-ish aquarium that would be the perfect size for the amount of grains my PC takes I kinda want to use it.
I know it might be difficult to dial in, but having read a big part of this thread (and the OP several times) I don't see why it wouldn't work. Currently the glass top of the tank has two corners "knocked off" from the factory. I'm also thinking of making spacers that will elevate the glass a specific amount from the top.

I know I could just get a plastic tote (and I already have several in different sizes), but it's more for the sake of me wanting to utilize it. I'll put some grains in it and give it a go once it's done colonizing the jars and see how it goes, but does anyone have any ideas or pointers for an unconventional unmodified mono?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: dankzilla]
    #27128849 - 01/05/21 05:28 PM (3 years, 22 days ago)

May be worth reading this thread re glass

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24120174


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Los grandes mutatos bastardos [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27129975 - 01/06/21 10:06 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)

First timer using BOD's TEK. My father got sick so i was away for a week and this was waiting for me. Smaller tub from same batch was ok.
Golden Teacher from print, otherwise as in BOD's TEK. Misted well before i went away...





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Re: Los grandes mutatos bastardos [Re: BackwardDog]
    #27129980 - 01/06/21 10:10 AM (3 years, 21 days ago)

...after a loooong fight, battleground was devastating.
Gathered 1 kilo 39 grams.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27134370 - 01/08/21 01:43 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Hey there! When you give your yield estimates, is that 1 flush? 3 flushes? or how many? Thank you!


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: simic3]
    #27134451 - 01/08/21 04:11 AM (3 years, 20 days ago)

Bods estimates are per tub, all flushes.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: clockworkshroom]
    #27134878 - 01/08/21 10:28 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)

Hey guys, quick question

Are the lids ever gasket side down? I've seen quotes that appear different from BOD's current post. The old post quotes say the lid should be gasket down during colonization, but the current post says BOD does not differentiate between colonization and fruiting anymore.

Some clarification would be much appreciated. Thanks!


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Tuliki]
    #27135440 - 01/08/21 02:40 PM (3 years, 19 days ago)

I've asked the same, clearly both can work and I'm pretty sure Bod now leaves upside down from start to finish in "growing conditions".

In the main post he says the reason for this is quicker times to harvest with no negative impact to yield. I think that may be the only real difference.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Tuliki]
    #27145233 - 01/13/21 07:24 AM (3 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

Tuliki said:
Hey guys, quick question

Are the lids ever gasket side down? I've seen quotes that appear different from BOD's current post. The old post quotes say the lid should be gasket down during colonization, but the current post says BOD does not differentiate between colonization and fruiting anymore.

Some clarification would be much appreciated. Thanks!




Try it first with the gasket side down. Flip the lid once it’s almost fully colonized or if you see water pools forming. You can remove the gasket as well, it’s mostly about your personal climate/preference.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Aablmd82]
    #27149307 - 01/15/21 08:16 AM (3 years, 12 days ago)

Hey there everyone, I'm wondering if anyone has found another brand of tub that doesn't need to be modified. The sterilite 54 quarts have discontinued being stocked at home depot and lowes and is not on their online site either. Amazon is ridiculous on price and shipping as I am not in the lower 48. Any suggestions would be awesome.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Spuncookie1]
    #27149341 - 01/15/21 08:41 AM (3 years, 12 days ago)

You could use pretty much any standard size tub and achieve similar results. It's just a box with gaps between the lid and the tub. The gaps allow air exchange to some extent. Not much different than how shoeboxes work. The lids don't make an air tight seal.

Find a different tub that's as close to the same size as possible (same dimensions not volume capacity), use something to keep the lid from making a seal and you'll probably have similar results.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #27150798 - 01/16/21 01:57 AM (3 years, 12 days ago)

Do you mist your uncased substrate when you go straight into fruiting?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: BExa]
    #27152042 - 01/16/21 07:32 PM (3 years, 11 days ago)

I'm using four 1 lb bags and a 10lb bag of prepasturised manure.  Is 4 qts enough?  I think Bod uses 7qts??


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