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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Lah0075]
    #26906633 - 08/29/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Is there a follow up video, or instructions on general as to how to place the lid, and do moisten? I can do the part I watched, but I have no clue about lid, or anything after that.




You just put it on the tote, but upside down.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26909916 - 08/31/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Bodhisatta thanks for the effort here!! Spawned my first 2 tubs yesterday 6 qt jars of GT in each tub from MS syringes purchased online.  Followed your process and have succeeded thus far!  Few things I tested/found out...
Tried different cook times on my 2 batches of oats (30 &40 min) - found little difference but the 30 minute cook seemed to break up easier

I allowed the oats to cool overnight in the frig like you mentioned, I felt for sure it was too dry but after few week colonization they looked good... I thought they were only colonizing the areas where liquid was injected so I shook a few of less colonized jars and found this to helped speed up the process of colonization, 22 days to full colonization. 

I used injection ports and filters from Microppose for ease and simplicity for my first run, and was really pleased with my success as the jars all made it.  I used two syringes of the GT to hedge my bet if I only got some jars to take I figured hopefully I’d get enough for one tub of the same strain.   

At this point I am hoping that I can get a few shrooms... alright I want a big ol sack a shrooms who am I fooling! Been quarter of century since my last adventure of the heroic kind.... anyways surface condition as FAE sounds like the last major challenge.  I will try and upload a few pictures to get some feed back.  Damnit Bod I’m a ganja farmer not mycologists, but I’ll take the Myco challenge,  Thanks again! 

Approx Costs to this point ~$200

$20 x 2 54 qt sterilite tubs
$25 50lb 1 bag oats
$30 5 x spore syringes (2 x GT, B+, A++ Albino, Malabar)
$4 Spray bottle
$20 Fluorescent light + bulbs (had on hand)
$20 Jars & lids
$25 10lb organic Coir  (Amazon)
$25 Homedepot Insulated water holder
$30 Microppose ports and filters
$5 1/4” Drill bit

$0 - borrowed Presto 23 Qt PC

Picture below after a week or so of colonization




2 days




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Re: Do you leave lid off at night when home during colonization or only once pinning [Re: Mtbromo]
    #26911175 - 09/01/20 04:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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This is one of second batch of UnBODified tubs. 4 quarts to one brick pure coir. Better genetics this time. I think I have lid and misting dialled in, even pinset and almost no side pins. I got 900g wet on first flush. Is this good? 




ffaaarrrrkkk that is beautiful bro!!! well done! 900 first flush is pretty good. Ive seen some dudes get 2000grams 1st flush but they were veterans.

what was total fresh/dry for all flushes?

did you have to mist much before fruiting?




Thanks. I only misted lightly to maintain surface conditions before pinning. Total from this tub was 150 dry. I did not go for third flush because I needed tubs for new varieties. This was McKennaii and next ones are PESA and Golden Teacher.


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Re: Do you leave lid off at night when home during colonization or only once pinning [Re: KuroNeko]
    #26913420 - 09/02/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Day 3 pics of my tub, what percent colonization would this be?  I feel my surface will be colonized before the substrate... trying to time when I should flip the lid.  Thinking things are looking good and headed in the right direction.





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Totally flabbergasted [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26917177 - 09/04/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Dear members!

Just finished reading this whole tread, 209 friggin pages!

Thanks BOD et all for wealth of information.

Now i'll go and mist my tubs walls from outside...

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Re: Totally flabbergasted [Re: BackwardDog]
    #26917801 - 09/04/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I have bought a Minni Monotube a sweet one :wink: 6,5l I will make a whip around with bamboo sticks and plastic foil for litte bit more space.

My question is: how much Substrat i need to mix i have rye grain mycelium hopefully colognising well i see tiny mycelium spots from my Liquid Culture


How much rye Coco coir i need to mix together for the end Substrat?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26920512 - 09/06/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How does this work versus a traditional mono tub? I'm not questioning its ability to operate well as there a numerous successful grows using this tek.

I was trying to get a better understanding of how a monotub operates and the search engine yielded numerous threads generated by people also looking for information about what goes on the plastic tub that creates the perfect or not so perfect climate for fungus. Most of the replies in those threads were people saying, "UTFSE!" which prompted me to search even further.

The best response I could find is that Carbon Dioxide is created by the fungus and because it is heavier than Oxygen it just sorta floats around above the sub surface. The top holes in the mono allow fresh Oxygen to enter the tub which pushes the CO2 out of the bottom holes.

So if there are no bottom holes near the sub level, how does the CO2 escape? Does the fresh Oxygen coming in from one side of the lid push the CO2 up the wall and out the other side of the lid? Or does the CO2 not escape at all and require the tub to be fanned more often?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26920569 - 09/06/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Idk but it’s probably that people saying co2 pools at the bottom is exaggerated in this situation. Like if you were throwing dry ice or something in the tub then yeah it would pool enough to hurt the shrooms but I’m guessing they create such a small amount that it’s easily diluted or dispersed by minimal fae.

Again this is based on literally nothing but my assumptions based on the results.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26920613 - 09/06/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Most of the threads I could find were pretty old so maybe the information is just incorrect. If this is the case and CO2 generation is minimal, is hole arrangement even nessecary? Would getting rid of the bottom holes and making the top holes (or vice versa) big enough to accommodate for the missing bottom holes have the same effect and end results as a traditional mono? If thats true then theoretically you could make 2 holes anywhere in the tub as long as the diameter is dialed in, correct?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26920818 - 09/06/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No idea, I’m just about to make my first monotubs. So far I’ve only run unmodded shoeboxes, sweater boxes and underbeds.


I know people have tried a bunch of different hole arrangements and got different results so it does have an impact.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26920928 - 09/06/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Not a trusted cultivator but this may help visualize?



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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #26921047 - 09/06/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That was pretty cool. I forget that there are other sources of information outside of this forum. Except for reddit... stay away from that place.

So if this is the case, why is the unmodified tub sufficient enough for FAE? Wouldn't it essentially just be pulling air across the top of the tub and leave the majority of the CO2 in the bottom of the tub?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Doctor Mario] * 1
    #26921085 - 09/06/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

warm air still rises creating air movement.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26922383 - 09/07/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Great questions brotha!

I think this works due to the diffusion of different temperatures in the air inside and outside the tub. for example the air is hot and humid inside the tub the air outside is colder. The law of Diffusion means the cold air wants to go inside and to the bottom, the hot air wants to go outside and to the top so it creates a suction effect that draws the air in a circle inside the tub sucking up C02 from the bottom and sucking in Oxygen from outside.

Also the main selling point for this tek is the easy harvest by filing up the tub with water, instead of awkwardly leaning inside the tub on a weird angle. You can hydrate and harvest at the same time.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Mtbromo]
    #26922670 - 09/07/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Im kicking my self in the ass for not paying attention in school. I did the bare minimum to pass my classes because I wasn't interested. Now, I'm 30 years old and all I want to do is learn.

I bought 4 of the 32qt tubs mentioned in this tek. I'm gonna practice on one or two and when I can figure out how to dial it in properly, I'll go ahead and do the other 2.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26925276 - 09/08/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Turns out I bought a 16qt instead of a 23. Bone head move. Lol


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Trippypete]
    #26925284 - 09/08/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: MadHatter333]
    #26925345 - 09/08/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



3 Days out from Spawn, hows it looking yall?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: delvinnguyen]
    #26926957 - 09/09/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Read this thread and thanks for all the great info.  Here we go!


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: ihuntbacon]
    #26934209 - 09/13/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

very informative


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