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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Igloomis]
    #26853074 - 07/30/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Things are looking like mold after 5 days
I sprayed with H2O4 and watched it melt.
Tossing and getting ready to start fresh with print->agar

Thanks again for everyone's help :smile:



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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Igloomis]
    #26853081 - 07/30/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Hi guys, just looking for some feedback.

I'm 8 days into substrate colonization. Lots of condensation on the sides and lid but the upper surface of the coir looks pretty dry. Is there anything I should be doing? Also, water is running down the sides and pooling a bit around the edges (darker color in photo).

Info: 32qt tub,
approx 2:1 coir/spawn ratio,
6500 deg. 1600 lumen fluorescent light sitting on lid,
Lid rightside-up, edge lifted at one end to provide slight crack.

Thanks!






I know you were probably looking for more detailed information, but I've never seen the dark puddle stuff on the sides before.

What I do believe is that the surface is probably not too dry if there is enough moisture in your tub to generate so much water running down the sides and pooling.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: MTManiac]
    #26853082 - 07/30/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That’s all mold man sorry.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: A.k.a]
    #26853175 - 07/30/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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That’s all mold man sorry.




Thanks. Tossing these and starting over again print->agar


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: MTManiac]
    #26853559 - 07/30/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I know you were probably looking for more detailed information, but I've never seen the dark puddle stuff on the sides before.

What I do believe is that the surface is probably not too dry if there is enough moisture in your tub to generate so much water running down the sides and pooling.



Thanks Maniac,
If you saw it in person it probably wouldn't look as weird. I tamped down the edges and that's where excess water went. The dark color IRL just looks like the color of moist coir, compared to the thin layer of drier coir on the surface in the middle.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) *DELETED* [Re: Igloomis]
    #26854589 - 07/30/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Igloomis]
    #26854961 - 07/31/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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MTManiac said:
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I know you were probably looking for more detailed information, but I've never seen the dark puddle stuff on the sides before.

What I do believe is that the surface is probably not too dry if there is enough moisture in your tub to generate so much water running down the sides and pooling.



Thanks Maniac,
If you saw it in person it probably wouldn't look as weird. I tamped down the edges and that's where excess water went. The dark color IRL just looks like the color of moist coir, compared to the thin layer of drier coir on the surface in the middle.



Awesome, I had kind of wondered if that was the case. The dark chocolate color makes sense with it being that much more hydrated.
Looking forward to seeing your progress :smile:


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bebop]
    #26854968 - 07/31/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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rinnrz said:
Question on using this Tek with Grow Bags (1lb grain, 4lb coir):

Once ~70% colonized, I'll mix up the bag and wait some more. When ready to fruit (bag will be a solid brick), I plan on cutting open the bag and putting each colonized brick in a 32qt tub, on top of a layer of foil, on top of ~4 inches of damp perlite and misting daily. I plan on using the Sterilite 4-latch 32qt bin unmodified with the lid upside down, unlatched for FAE.

Any issues foreseen here?




I could be wrong since I've never done cakes, but it seems to me you are adding a few extra steps compared to what I feel makes this tek great, it's simplicity

When you would mix your spawn/substrate into the bags (to make your bricks) this tek would have you mix it directly into your 32L tubs, and then wait, saving you the time and money of performing those other steps.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) *DELETED* [Re: MTManiac]
    #26855483 - 07/31/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bebop]
    #26857224 - 08/01/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: PINHEAD69]
    #26861056 - 08/03/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey everyone,

First grow. I'm following bod's tek stack to the tee. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but it's been 25+ days since throwing my coir and spawn into tubs and I still don't have knots. I don't know if I accidentally grew non-fruiting myc on agar or what but I'm getting discouraged. The mycelium is Golden Teacher and I've heard it grows slowly but past that I'm at a loss.

For about 14-20 days, the tubs had tiny dewy beads of moisture on top and didn't need any misting-- coir was at capacity (650g Eco Earth coir per 5 quarts per tub; I used about 225g of coir per liter to get field capacity, the 5x rule was way too wet). They colonized quickly and looked great from what I could tell. Now it's to a point where the corners are bone dry, the sides are shrinking slightly, and need misting 4-5 times a day. There's also matting on the earliest created tubs (around 7/4/20). Lids have been flipped since day 1. Room temperature is ~72-74F and a humidity of 75%+, more in the tubs no doubt. Fan runs overnight on a low setting in the center of the room.

Any ideas? I'm to the point where I just want to start over on agar because even if these fruit I just can't be bothered to wait so long with these genetics.

Any help would be appreciated!


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ArmchairCalvinist]
    #26861107 - 08/03/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Post pics.
Misting 4/5 times a day sounds really off


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26861152 - 08/03/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Here's some pics of my tubs created from 7/7 to 7/11 (in no particular order, apologies):

Also, for whatever reason, some of the pictures didn't upload correctly. Any ideas on why? They're under the 5mb limit.



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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ArmchairCalvinist]
    #26862415 - 08/04/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Are you letting it breath so there's enough evaporation to initiate pinning? If you're misting a lot I would think so. Do you live in a dry or humid location? Local humidity seems to be something you need to take into account. I live in a very dry desert environment and I tend to have a bigger problem with my mycelium starting to fruit before full colonization, and before I even start seeing a lot of knots, so I think I'm probably allowing too much FAE.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Igloomis]
    #26862499 - 08/04/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The lids are always flipped. As an experiment for FAE I am now resting the lids on top of the latches flipped upward for a bit more of a gap between the tub and the lid. The fan in the center of my room points toward the ceiling as well.

Here's my location's average humidity and temperature:





My house has the heater set to 70 as a minimum and usually hovers above that.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ArmchairCalvinist]
    #26862568 - 08/04/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Pinning before full colonization is usually a spawn issue, you can’t really have too much air.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a]
    #26867474 - 08/06/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

im going to try this, and read through the first 15 pages looking for this answer.. lol, im a little confused. the picture says "leave lid upside down while not at home...." do you just take the lids completely off for a certain amount of time while "home?" or are the lids on upside down constantly through colonizing/fruiting?

also whats the point in off-setting every other mono when stacking? why not just stack conventionally?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: sandyraptor]
    #26867533 - 08/07/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If I recall he takes the lids off while home but I don’t recall the specified time, frequency being written anywhere.

I do the same and use the same tubs.

The lids upside down do not line up well with the base of the stacked tub. So it is not stable and puts pressure over the 4 holes. Stacking as shown is more stable. At least that’s why I do it.

Top off after pin set is in and 1/4” tall for 1 - 1.5 hrs around 7 am and again around 7 pm. Then a mist if needed and top back on upside down handles down.

The handles can also be flipped up and the lid rests on them upside down. Since I work from home and I’m able to monitor the tubs I flip up the handles for more FAE after the pins are in and around 1/4” tall.

IMO this is not for everyone. I have a designated grow area with hepa air purifier circulating the air every 30 min. Face masks while in the room. I also keep tubs the floor which is frowned upon. Not necessary and an accident in the room can still cause issues. But know the risk. A colonized tub putting out pins is pretty safe to leave open but it’s a judgement call on your setup.

Sorry Bod for jumping in

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: sandyraptor]
    #26867773 - 08/07/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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im going to try this, and read through the first 15 pages looking for this answer.. lol, im a little confused. the picture says "leave lid upside down while not at home...." do you just take the lids completely off for a certain amount of time while "home?" or are the lids on upside down constantly through colonizing/fruiting?




To summarize my understanding of the basic tek:

Place the lid on right side up and unlatched during colonization.

At 70% colonization, flip the lid upside down, or remove it for a period of time, to encourage pinning and fruiting.


But the relative humidity and amount of FAE is going to be different in everyone's grow room, so the tek needs to be fine tuned to suit each environment.


Edited by tomcards (08/07/20 07:37 AM)


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: sandyraptor]
    #26868122 - 08/07/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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im going to try this, and read through the first 15 pages looking for this answer.. lol, im a little confused. the picture says "leave lid upside down while not at home...." do you just take the lids completely off for a certain amount of time while "home?" or are the lids on upside down constantly through colonizing/fruiting?

also whats the point in off-setting every other mono when stacking? why not just stack conventionally?



The photo says "lid on, upside down for when you're not home". My understanding is that Bod leaves the lid on, upside down, all of the time, unless the tub gets too moist, then he might remove the lid completely for some period of time to allow for more evaporation. My personal experience with these tubs has been that the middle of the surface is pretty good but the corners are pretty much always too dry, so I never remove the lid (except to mist). I don't see any reason to remove the lid completely unless your tub is too wet.

To answer your second question, the underside of the lid has some ridges that make it necessary to offset the tubs like that.


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