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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Poolofsouls]
#26680225 - 05/19/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I recently tried this tek with 6 quarts of a (large) clone into a new 50L tub, only produced an average yield after 3 weeks, which is ok, but 2 weeks later I used 5 quarts of the same clone, and same tub but after 1 month it’s produced virtually nothing, some small sparsely slightly deformed capped mushrooms, with the odd reasonably big one (as per the first tub). The tub was placed in a higher position in a cupboard than the first but that’s the only difference. I can’t understand why the second would underperform so much compared to the first. Visually looks nothing out of the ordinary. Unsure if the tub isn’t best suited for this maybe. Previously used same brand tub but smaller and had great results with this tek.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26685589 - 05/21/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hate to bug you guys would this tek be possible with brf cakes from spores. I have like 11 and have the 32 q tubs I like the idea of this tek tho. I'm noob af. Might be a dum BBC question I just dont know how sgfc will do in my closet also humidity in my room is 30
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: TrippyMomp]
#26687594 - 05/22/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Question:
Since this tek is using no filters for FAE and just coir, is it assuming that by putting into fruiting right away plus the antibacterial properties of the coco coir it will stave off most contams?
Id like to put these in my basement where I have greater temp control through summer but am skeptical of the air quality.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: lrrylre]
#26687679 - 05/22/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure it’s as much antibacterial as it is anti-spore germination... that being said (can’t help but think of curb your enthusiasm every time I say that lol) I’d much rather there have a slight bacterial problem than a mold problem. I think there’s only one way to find out... do iiiit. I’d just clean up as best you can and rock them tubs.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: fahtster]
#26688541 - 05/22/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Right on man makes sense, thanks for the reply.
Will let you yall know how it goes. I may just put up some plastic sheeting and section off part of it so it’s a more contained environment.
Everyone on this site apparently lives in a moderately tropical climate and has a well insulated house or that’s at least how it feels sometimes haha.
The temps for me year round fluctuate a lot so figured I’d err on the side of things being too cold And I can always turn on a little space heater to keep em up above 66 over night if need be.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: lrrylre]
#26688679 - 05/22/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I went ahead and mixed one bag of spawn into a full 650g of coir, and mixed the other bag of spawn into half of another tub. Seems like they’re doing okay, to my untrained eye. Thoughts?

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Phrontist]
#26688685 - 05/22/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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They look good, especially the top one.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: A.k.a]
#26689058 - 05/22/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awesome! Thanks for the reply.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Phrontist]
#26690029 - 05/23/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those look solid, definitely post some pics once they start pinning
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: lrrylre]
#26690892 - 05/23/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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How long would you guys think is too long till you see mycelium growth on rye grain berries
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Poolofsouls]
#26690917 - 05/23/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Weird place for this question... and not enough information to answer frankly: if you're shooting it straight with spore solution it could take 4-40 days to germinate depending on the condition of the spores... with an active and healthy culture on an agar wedge still visible from the outside should show signs of recovery in 12-72hrs
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#26690968 - 05/23/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm sorry I forgot where I was. Thank you for answering yes spore syringe. I do have another question. I understand to do this tek you have to have an eye for everything, moisture, surface conditions, fae. Ect. Is there a different tub tek that would take alot of the guessing work out of it for me. I'm new to this. Thank you..
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Poolofsouls]
#26691054 - 05/23/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have followed everything in BODS tek to a T. Had a bit of success with GTs and then massive success with a supper fast B+ which was started from SS then G2G jars
Got up to 8 tubs at one point and 8-10 flushes on about half.
At first I would just mix up jars in tubs and then let it fully colonize then flip lid. I am in a pretty dry area so it the required a lot of baby sitting to prevent the substrate from becoming dry like cardboard.
I also tested 32qt, 53qt, and the big ass ones with 6 handles,
The middle ones seems to perform the best, although after a little bump on the road with the little tubs, (spiderweb mold which I sprayed with H202 mix and then added a pasteurized pure coco casing layer. I got 10 flushes from these, and the later the flush, the bigger the fruits.
Of course, with everything working so smoothly, (literally picking 1/2 oz to a oz a day (Wet) for over a month, I couldn’t be content, I had to go and fuck things up!
I read some where that gypsum was like vitamins for the fruits and the verm was great at retaining water. What I did do of course was forget to pasteurize the verm and the gymsum.
So #1 I got gnats. And #2 I got trich. Lost 6 tubs. AC went out where we are and temps fluctuated.
So my question is, is it more likely that the trich came from the unpasteurized verm and gypsum or could I have had a bad run with my oats in jars? Any sense on what’s most likely? Thank you all I did get some mambos from keeping them in a long cycle in the dark+gypsum though
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Jimmycapstem]
#26693989 - 05/24/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hoping I’m not to late but I was hoping to ask you a question or two bro 1. When using the 32qt how many quarts of oats did you use to coir?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Shroomeaterpeter]
#26694354 - 05/25/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shroomeaterpeter said: Hoping I’m not to late but I was hoping to ask you a question or two bro 1. When using the 32qt how many quarts of oats did you use to coir?
See first post on page one I mentioned 5 quarts per brick a few times. You can use more or less
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Jimmycapstem] 1
#26694358 - 05/25/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Jimmycapstem said: I have followed everything in BODS tek to a T. Had a bit of success with GTs and then massive success with a supper fast B+ which was started from SS then G2G jars
Got up to 8 tubs at one point and 8-10 flushes on about half.
At first I would just mix up jars in tubs and then let it fully colonize then flip lid. I am in a pretty dry area so it the required a lot of baby sitting to prevent the substrate from becoming dry like cardboard.
I also tested 32qt, 53qt, and the big ass ones with 6 handles,
The middle ones seems to perform the best, although after a little bump on the road with the little tubs, (spiderweb mold which I sprayed with H202 mix and then added a pasteurized pure coco casing layer. I got 10 flushes from these, and the later the flush, the bigger the fruits.
Of course, with everything working so smoothly, (literally picking 1/2 oz to a oz a day (Wet) for over a month, I couldn’t be content, I had to go and fuck things up!
I read some where that gypsum was like vitamins for the fruits and the verm was great at retaining water. What I did do of course was forget to pasteurize the verm and the gymsum.
So #1 I got gnats. And #2 I got trich. Lost 6 tubs. AC went out where we are and temps fluctuated.
So my question is, is it more likely that the trich came from the unpasteurized verm and gypsum or could I have had a bad run with my oats in jars? Any sense on what’s most likely? Thank you all I did get some mambos from keeping them in a long cycle in the dark+gypsum though
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26695094 - 05/25/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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My first try with this Tek. I started 2 tubs and over a week or two added more stacked on top of each other. I left the lids unlatched as I waited for colonization. The first two have been overrun with trich and a couple others that are still not colonozied have started some cobweb mold. The spawn I used has been used in shoeboxes and 12qt totes with no contamination issues so I'm suspecting this tek and the lack of any air exchange due to the gaskets on the lids and the stacked tubs. They are starting to get a vinegary smell. Could it be what I suspect? Do I need to increase some gas exchange by not stacking or something? I haven't been able to keep the temps below the high 70s where they are.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: ShamanBag]
#26695110 - 05/25/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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High temps and stale air is definitely what contams like.
If you’re using coir then I’d guess you’ve got bacterial spawn that did ok in smaller tubs with more air but the bacteria exploded in the new conditions.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: A.k.a]
#26695148 - 05/25/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: High temps and stale air is definitely what contams like.
If you’re using coir then I’d guess you’ve got bacterial spawn that did ok in smaller tubs with more air but the bacteria exploded in the new conditions.
I've been seeing some bacterial looking spawn..at least I think so. Some grains that look a little wet and uncolonized. Or take a long time to colonize after I shake them. How do I minimize the bacteria? I've been trying hard on my sterile technique in an SAB but it seems no matter what I do I have issues. That being said since I switched to shoeboxes and 12qt totes I have been finally having some success but they are a pain because they seem to take so much more care. Either they don't have enough fae or they dry out. I'm spending way too much time every day monitoring them so I need more set and minimal babysitting.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: ShamanBag]
#26695174 - 05/25/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shoeboxes should be really easy.
Most of the time you can leave the lid on the whole way til harvest.
Dubbing then works well for me and I’ve got about as low rh as it gets.
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