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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Widge]
    #26594740 - 04/12/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Howdy all.

It’s day 12 of the maiden BOD EAF monotub and pinning is already underway.

Would appreciate feedback on what I’m seeing here as it’s not quite right..eg, the fat blob in the middle pic :confused: :grin:

It’s a 60L/60q tub, 650g coir, 2.5kg/5.5lb of oat spawn.
Added a light casing layer about 1/4 inch deep as RH is super low where I am.
Misting has been very light, just a few times in the past week.

Thinking maybe it’s too high RH, too low FAE - But keen for an expert’s eye!

Thanks in advance.

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With that spawn/sub ratio I’d be concern of the early pinning I mean at least you can expect 1oz to each qt of spawn first flush and I’d be interested why it’s already pinning I’m sure someone more experience could weight in that be a small first flush.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: PiptheGreAtest]
    #26597306 - 04/13/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I followed Spitball Jedi`s ryeberry prep to create 7qt jars about 2/3 full. Added that to one brick of coco prepared with Bod's 5gal cooler tek. 

Now following this tek with the reccomended tote. Mixed the grain and coco 14 days ago set the lid on the correct way (not upside down) not latched and left it alone.  I feel like the tub has stalled maybe? 

Any advice on how this looks would be appreciated!

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: OldDude]
    #26597499 - 04/13/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It looks a little moist in their. You can introduce fae and should see pins any day now.
You want some of the surface moisture to evaporate to induce pinning.

Check out this thread on surface conditions
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=23999053&fpart=&PH


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: PiptheGreAtest]
    #26598631 - 04/13/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

would it matter to change the grain to rye if so why?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26598868 - 04/13/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It looks a little moist in their. You can introduce fae and should see pins any day now.
You want some of the surface moisture to evaporate to induce pinning.

Check out this thread on surface conditions
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=23999053&fpart=&PH




Thanks for the input, I will give it a try!

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: PiptheGreAtest]
    #26599452 - 04/14/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the reply.

I think the ratios are similar to others, the 2.5kg of spawn (approx 1.5kg dry grain) is equivalent to the 7ish quarts of grain spawn recommended.

There's definitely alot of pins now...I think the main issue has been light, it's been next to a window rather than an electric light source so it seems they're pointing in that direction rather than straight up.

Have also given more FAE - the humidity has been up around the 96% mark with lid on (the Xiaomi wireless temp/RH sensors are pretty cheap and connect to Google home). I've adjusted the lid to keep it around 80% for now.

Will post some pics in a few days I think fruiting is about to heat up inside :smile:


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Widge]
    #26599935 - 04/14/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looking forward to this tek! Thank you!


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: GhstHze33]
    #26601076 - 04/14/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Here's my first attempt at Bodhi's tubs...




C0301 spawned 3.31 : 5 jars : lite coir casing


C0302 spawned 3.30 : 7 jars : no casing

Knotting and some signs of pinning.

Lots of pinning!


C0401 spawned 4.1 : 6 jars : lite casing

Lots of pinning!



Are they drying out?


I don't want to waterlog my tubs. Don't want them drying out either. I've read crumpled wax paper could help create a humid micro-climate. I'm experimenting with that on some shoeboxes on their 3rd flush and will post pics in another thread.

Obviously I want to avoid small fruits and aborts. I understand the concept of ideal surface conditions. And I think that as a noobie, it's easy for me to want to mist away when I see the color of my dark  coir color going light!

I have a small humidifier pointed into my grow room (closet). Lids are all flipped up.

It's interesting that some of my tubs grow a cloud of white fluff, then knot and pin. Others get covered with myc before starting to knot and pin... these are all the same variety and I followed Bod's tek to the T. Only variable is whether to case or not.

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JessicaRabbit88]
    #26601096 - 04/14/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They do look dry to me, especially the middle one in the first pic.

Should be good tubs though.


I’d mist them all and then pour like a cup of water down the side and let it sit for an hour or so then drain it.

I bet they suck it up fast especially the one with lots of pins. It looks thirsty and needs to feed those little guys.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a]
    #26601192 - 04/14/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok thanks! I'll mist them and try the "bottom watering".

Here are the other 3 tubs:



C0403 : Spawned 4.5 / 5 jars / lite coir casing



This tub I thought I try Shaper Dreamings SFF tek. It's probably too soon to experiment since these are my first monotubs ever. But what the hell, I guess I'm gangsta that way :cool:

C0402 : Spawned 4.1 / 5 jars / lite coir casing



After misting


C0404 : Spawned 4.5 / 5 jars / lite coir casing



After misting



All Cambodians. Grains were inoculated with LC broth.

Teks I used:

Bod's Oat tek
Bod's Coir tek
Bod's Spawn tek

Only deviation was adding a lite casing, except for one that I pointed out.

It's interesting how the mycelium covers most of the surface of some and fluffy white "cauliflower" grows over others.

What could be the cause of this?

What can I do to get a more even pinning? I understand using clones will help and that will be my next set of tubs.

Any thoughts?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JessicaRabbit88]
    #26601203 - 04/14/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

First tub on the left in both of those posts look like the two best. Of course practice makes perfect. As easy as things are little details matter so much too.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26601372 - 04/14/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



Thanks a bunch for this tek bod, I been really enjoying it

I fucked with it a few years ago, but finally moved to the exact tubs you recommended and been getting much better results. especially loving the clear lid for lighting. It worked fine with other tubs but I seem to get better pinsets with good lighting (clear lids)


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26601828 - 04/14/20 11:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Absolutely, it will take lots of practice and good documentation.

I’m curious as to why myc grows over the casing on some and in others, I get thick white clouds. Or I see very little myc but the surface starts to knot and pin?

What am I missing? I’m rotating my tubs and give them plenty of FAE...

Bod, should I be misting more? I don’t want to end up damaging my pins.

What are your thoughts on using wax paper?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JessicaRabbit88]
    #26602449 - 04/15/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

C10 it’s crazy how that tub grew like a funnel, super thick til the middle and gradually shorter.
Badass tub is it a clone?


Jessica you shouldn’t need wax paper, it just takes a little experimentation to figure out how to work the tubs in your specific area but once you figure it out you’ll be set.


As far as the myc, I think it’s based on spawn health in this case. Although genetics can make it colonize differently also.

Personally I like when only knots poke through the top layer. Keeps it all protected.

The one with the thick white cloud myc is the one with no top layer right? That makes a big difference in the way it looks also.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a]
    #26602513 - 04/15/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Don't think this tub got enough FAE but decent pinset and harvest. I think these tubs need to be fanned more consistently having the lid upside down won't do much for FAE in a stagnant room



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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26602574 - 04/15/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

looks great to me:shrug:


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy]
    #26602638 - 04/15/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It did well! Just craved a little more fanning each strain is unique how much fae they actually need, just gotta be watching your tubs and their conditions, nothing wrong with that and fanning and misting is easy.

I'm gonna stack some of these up and run some more!


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #26603377 - 04/15/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey everyone, could I ask for some advice?

Followed the unbodified monotub Tek. Tub colonized fairly quick, within a couple of days. Now it's been 2 weeks and I have no pins as of yet. Wondering if I need to keep waiting or if anyone has any suggestions.

-Lid flipped from the get go.
-temp range 65-80
-in a room full of natural light
-misted probably 2 or 3 times total

Here are some pics

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: shgrme32]
    #26603392 - 04/15/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Something looks weird about the surface but I’m not sure what lol.

Anyways there’s knots starting to form so it’s on the way.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26603393 - 04/15/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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First tub on the left in both of those posts look like the two best. Of course practice makes perfect. As easy as things are little details matter so much too.




Can I assume that "looked best", those tubs look as they should?

I'm re-examining my grain jars to find any potential problems. I'd really appreciate your input on these:

These are current grain jars I'm working with.



The first 2 (foil) have been sterilized and was going to inoculate today with LC broth —possibly too wet?

The middle 2 I was about to PC and were left in the fridge for a couple of days—possibly too dry?

The last 2 were inoculated 4.11.

Close ups in order:



I've been using your Oat Tek, following it exactly and have made about 84 grain jars, of which one was contaminated after I shook it, and one did not recover.

Except this time, I added 500ml of weak coffee to about 6 liters of water and 2 tablespoons of gypsum as a test to see if grains will colonize faster [first 4 jars]. It's currently taking about 18-21 days.


Your advice is greatly appreciated.


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