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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: coAsTal] 1
#26555128 - 03/24/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha damnit, allright I’ll keep it and see what happens, thanks for input and translation
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Kontiki]
#26555285 - 03/24/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is this Tek suppose to cause your surface to dry out? Because that's what mines doing having the lid flipped from spawn, I feel like misting is required if left upside down from the get go so I flipped mine back over until it's closer to full colonization
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Eclipse3130]
#26555361 - 03/24/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I bought one of these tubs to try this tek out and I'm noticing with the lid flipped it doesn't sit on the tub very snugly and there's a crack of airspace all the way around the bin. It's getting too dry and I have to mist multiple times a day. I may just turn it into a standard mono.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: TheDude11]
#26555395 - 03/24/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: Is this Tek suppose to cause your surface to dry out? Because that's what mines doing having the lid flipped from spawn, I feel like misting is required if left upside down from the get go so I flipped mine back over until it's closer to full colonization
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TheDude11 said: I bought one of these tubs to try this tek out and I'm noticing with the lid flipped it doesn't sit on the tub very snugly and there's a crack of airspace all the way around the bin. It's getting too dry and I have to mist multiple times a day. I may just turn it into a standard mono.
I had the same issue when I tried this tek last run. The instructions are kinda do whatever so it took alot of trouble shooting to get it perfect. I was changing between flipped and lid down but not latched.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: ohfunkya]
#26555422 - 03/24/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Even with the lid completely removed you're misting like 3 times a day. A shit lid shouldn't really be a problem. Warm it up and bend it or something
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: TheDude11]
#26555637 - 03/24/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheDude11 said: I bought one of these tubs to try this tek out and I'm noticing with the lid flipped it doesn't sit on the tub very snugly and there's a crack of airspace all the way around the bin. It's getting too dry and I have to mist multiple times a day. I may just turn it into a standard mono.
Ive got eight of these going and ive already decided that once these are done theyre getting the poly treatment.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: shevanel]
#26555670 - 03/24/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've got 3 tubs going of PE right now.
All 3 left closed for 8 days after spawn opening once or twice a day for a few moments to peek and exchange a little air.
On the ninth day I flipped the lids and
Tub1 got no additional coir Tub2 got a light layer of coir sprinkled just over the corners because on my recent Burma tubs, this is where I was drying out. Tub 3 got light layer of coir over the whole substrate surface.
Didn't pack it down or attempt to level the coir. Just let it sprinkle where I wanted it.
So far the 4 corner tub has a pretty good lead.
The spawn for all 3 tubs came from the same agar wedge. A2g2g.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: susurrador]
#26555805 - 03/24/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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For you guys getting dry surface, I had the same problem following teks and took me a while to realize it was my rooms low rh.
Make the coir VERY slightly above field cap, put a top layer at spawn, and keep the lid on but not snapped air tight.
Try that next time and see how it goes. Doing those fixed all my problems. The teks are really more of a baseline to start with but you gotta feel out your room and make adjustments. I didn’t want to break from the teks and mess shit up for a while but eventually I did.
I keep my lids shut until I see pins then sometimes crack one side and that’s plenty of air for my spot.
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Edited by A.k.a (03/24/20 07:54 PM)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a]
#26559437 - 03/26/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im so sick of flipping the lids back n fourth and misting these tubs. Weather here has been dry/humid warm/cold from day to day and these tubs are high maintenance af.
I lazy-cased [coir/verm] half of them and left the other half alone just to compare results of each.
Surface dries so quickly and misting way too much to keep it going.
Def miss my set n forget poly monotubs that have a more consistent way to dial fae without stepping away too long and coming back to a saharan desert
Edited by shevanel (03/26/20 04:03 PM)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: susurrador]
#26559448 - 03/26/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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susurrador said: I've got 3 tubs going of PE right now.
All 3 left closed for 8 days after spawn opening once or twice a day for a few moments to peek and exchange a little air.
On the ninth day I flipped the lids and
Tub1 got no additional coir Tub2 got a light layer of coir sprinkled just over the corners because on my recent Burma tubs, this is where I was drying out. Tub 3 got light layer of coir over the whole substrate surface.
Didn't pack it down or attempt to level the coir. Just let it sprinkle where I wanted it.
So far the 4 corner tub has a pretty good lead.
The spawn for all 3 tubs came from the same agar wedge. A2g2g.

did you do any casing at spawn or just the coir at fruiting that you mentioned?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26559487 - 03/26/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said:
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susurrador said: I've got 3 tubs going of PE right now.
All 3 left closed for 8 days after spawn opening once or twice a day for a few moments to peek and exchange a little air.
On the ninth day I flipped the lids and
Tub1 got no additional coir Tub2 got a light layer of coir sprinkled just over the corners because on my recent Burma tubs, this is where I was drying out. Tub 3 got light layer of coir over the whole substrate surface.
Didn't pack it down or attempt to level the coir. Just let it sprinkle where I wanted it.
So far the 4 corner tub has a pretty good lead.
The spawn for all 3 tubs came from the same agar wedge. A2g2g.

did you do any casing at spawn or just the coir at fruiting that you mentioned?
I'm glad you asked because I was full of shit. I added the extra coir at spawn.
Went and looked at the tubs and I put a note with the date.
Thanks for keeping me honest.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: susurrador]
#26559590 - 03/26/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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no worries 
so just a pseudocasing with coir at spawn, plus what you mentioned right?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26559631 - 03/26/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes.
I've read PE performs better with a top layer of coir or casing which is why I started dabbling with the idea.
The tub that got only the 4 corners covered @ spawn is way out front.
I'm pretty new so just take it all as something I'm messing with at the moment and not advice.
Here are the tubs today. Can probably guess which one is the 4corner tub.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: shevanel]
#26559827 - 03/26/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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shevanel said: Im so sick of flipping the lids back n fourth and misting these tubs. Weather here has been dry/humid warm/cold from day to day and these tubs are high maintenance af.
I lazy-cased [coir/verm] half of them and left the other half alone just to compare results of each.
Surface dries so quickly and misting way too much to keep it going.
Def miss my set n forget poly monotubs that have a more consistent way to dial fae without stepping away too long and coming back to a saharan desert
What are the temps in these things for you? What type lights are you using and how close are they to the lid?
Is it possible that there's too much convection from a hot lid that's evaporating the sub with the faster internal air movement caused by heat? That could explain the unusually high dryness.
It's just strange that you're having these issues and I'd like to understand your setup so I don't make a mistake when setting up mine.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: coAsTal]
#26560010 - 03/26/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Room is uaually 69-71 tubs get 73-76
Using 6500k led mounted vertical on wall behind shelf
Edited by shevanel (03/26/20 08:45 PM)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: susurrador]
#26563300 - 03/28/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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HAHA. Way to fess up
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Jimmycapstem]
#26563335 - 03/28/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice thread
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#26567253 - 03/30/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just spawned my first 54qt monotub, using your teks exactly as written. I watched your spawning video, weighed out my coir brick to 650 and spawned 7qt jars.

I see you also spawn 5qt jars in the 54qt tub. Have you determined 5 is more optimal than 7? I spawned Cambodians.
I know results will vary so I'm going to spawn another tub and use 5 jars for comparison.
Your feedback is always appreciated!
And thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: JessicaRabbit88]
#26567669 - 03/30/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Doesn't matter too much. You'll get more shrooms with more jars
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#26567704 - 03/30/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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And faster. Using 1:1.5 to 1:2 ratio I been getting tubs totally colonized at day 4-5. Some look done by day 3
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