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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465005 - 02/02/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mushboy]
#26467958 - 02/04/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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"If you're using this tek you shouldn't need to ask me how to water your mushrooms. "
Noob question, but how soon after mixing substrate and grain spawn do I water, and how long should I wait to start subsequent flushes, n how would i go about it? Thanks for the tek and your info
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Thatguy_47]
#26467999 - 02/04/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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When it needs it which will entirely depend on your conditions and starting moisture
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26480217 - 02/11/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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bigAPE said: Bod I am having a lot of trouble with my first tubs, how often do you mist before the first harvest? I have pins but feel the need to mist when the surface gets dry. There is a lot of different people on here saying different things. Some say to not mist at all and some say to mist all the time. Not misting at all sounds counter to growth. I need some help. If you would like some pictures I have a them on my account.
Pardon me but could you use a syringe or side\bottom water?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: tramalot]
#26480844 - 02/11/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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For 2 qt spawn and 300g coir , do you suggest using the 54 qt or 32 qt or 20 qt tote?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: mshroom]
#26481494 - 02/12/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Prob 20.
Some people run two quarts to a shoebox.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a]
#26488311 - 02/16/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry for the crappy photos...
So I am liking my pinset I think. I have really done a "set it and forget it" on these monos. However, I have a TON of sidepins. What the heck?
Also, some of the first ones to grow are large and ahead of the rest. Should I selectively pick the older ones, or just wait for the whole canopy to catch up? The older ones will surely be dropping spores by then
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Edited by McGrimm (02/16/20 12:12 PM)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: McGrimm]
#26488321 - 02/16/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can pick the early birds or just cut the caps off when they open up if you don’t want to disturb any clusters they’re attached to
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: fahtster]
#26488405 - 02/16/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I guess I know the answer to the sidepins
Surface conditions, right?
Well, the tiny beads of moisture have been consistent on the surface... But I don't see how you wouldn't get sidepins if the substrate was uniform in moisture when it was put in the tub
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26488844 - 02/16/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, so here it is. 2 pounds of spawn, 6 pounds of manure based substrate in a 32 quart Sterilite tub. The white stuff you see in the pictures is not mycelium, it's condensation reflecting from the camera flash. My only question is, should I spray walls? Or is the condensation in the substrate enough to induce colonization?
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: TheBoognish]
#26488853 - 02/16/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shouldn’t have to mist especially this soon. You don’t induce colonization, it does that all by itself and I can’t really tell but it does seem likes there’s plenty of moisture in your tub. As long as your sub isn’t dry you shouldn’t mist. The end goal of this tek is to Be able to ( I doubt I can refrain myself )set and forget until it flushes right?
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: MushkingMulah360]
#26495667 - 02/20/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bod, I see that you use no gypsum for spawn or bulk substrate. I have used it in the past but only because the Tek I used called for it. Is there any reason to ever consider gypsum? What (if any) are potential advantages?
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Igloomis]
#26495718 - 02/20/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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McGrimm said: I guess I know the answer to the sidepins
Surface conditions, right?
Well, the tiny beads of moisture have been consistent on the surface... But I don't see how you wouldn't get sidepins if the substrate was uniform in moisture when it was put in the tub
Practice is actually the best answer.
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TheBoognish said: Ok, so here it is. 2 pounds of spawn, 6 pounds of manure based substrate in a 32 quart Sterilite tub. The white stuff you see in the pictures is not mycelium, it's condensation reflecting from the camera flash. My only question is, should I spray walls? Or is the condensation in the substrate enough to induce colonization?

Nah walls don't grow.
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Igloomis said: Bod, I see that you use no gypsum for spawn or bulk substrate. I have used it in the past but only because the Tek I used called for it. Is there any reason to ever consider gypsum? What (if any) are potential advantages?
Try it both ways. I don't see any advantages in cube grows with the spawn rates we use.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#26497080 - 02/21/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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holy fuck!
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: OZ Guru] 1
#26498053 - 02/22/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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OK, I have read the entire thread (183 pages so far - better than a mystery novel!) and taken careful notes, so hopefully my questions from here on out won't be too uninformed.
I gotta say, I never like wadding up polyfill and stuffing it into holes. The streamlining of this Tek puts a big smile on my face (he bows respectfully).
Edited by Igloomis (02/22/20 09:26 AM)
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK *DELETED* [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#26498069 - 02/22/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Igloomis]
#26498091 - 02/22/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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First actual question:
For spawn jars I've been using mason jar lids with self-sealing injection ports and a disk of felt RTVed over a 3/8" hole for GE.
Now I'm moving on to agar for my intro to Bod's Tek. What do you folks prefer for an agar-inoculated oat spawn lid? I got the felt thing from an oooooold Tek. Now I'm wondering if it's not a great idea.
I like the simplicity of Bod's 1/4" hole with polyfill. Anyone have other recommendations/preferences that I should consider?
The ones I use are kinda (but not exactly) like this:
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Igloomis]
#26498106 - 02/22/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its worth a try. Just don’t put all your eggs in one basket till you know if they work or not.
I use both, Polyfil and sdf / ship.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#26498201 - 02/22/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Aiko Aiko said: Substrate Calculator
This is a great idea but it isn't working for me. I hit the Caluclate button and it either resets everything to a poop/verm/etc bulk or gives an output of all zeros. Thank goodness I listened to my 4th grade math instruction!
Plus, it's got all kinds of sketchy-looking adds and links and a big red "Not Secure" in the URL field.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Igloomis] 1
#26500059 - 02/23/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey Guys first time bulk and haven’t grown in 10+ years. Have to say I’m loving the simplicity of this tek and I’ve been super impressed, props to Bod!!
Wanted to give an update to make sure I’m on track and get any feedback.
I read the OP and when I started my spawn run I put it straight into fruit with lid upside down. RH has been 99, and the temps with the lights climbed as high as 84 sometimes, but has averaged around 70-75 lights off. Any thoughts on these tub pics? Light 1/8” coir casing, and oat / coir mixed to spec based on OP from 4 quarts spawn. Time 6 days into spawn run. It appears to be stalled but I can’t tell if that’s just because I’ve been checking it daily. As far as smells it’s nothing but that clean mush smell 
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Also wanted your feedback to see if you spotted anything suspect in these G2G jars. I’ve practiced cleanliness / alcohol wipes, gloves, SAB use, and haven’t noticed anything off color (obvious type molds) but any feedback on whether everything looks good is appreciated! Time is 6 days into colonization.

Thanks again bod for this tek, has seemed easy af so far
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