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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Iamapinballmachine]
    #26460024 - 01/30/20 11:01 AM (4 years, 8 hours ago)

Used 3 Qts and 1 coir block, but ive ended up with tiny mushrooms!
This is the second grow in this new box (54L ish), both grows were with a different strain, and both have produced small mushrooms?!
I felt my set up was perfect this time, and I had more colonised spawn compared with previous grow, so I assumed this would help with a bigger flush.

Would this have anything to do with FAE exchange of the box im using? (lid upside down as OP).

Or could this be caused by the lid being opaque / preventing as much light coming through? (even though there will be light coming in at the sides)

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: chemicalbros]
    #26460029 - 01/30/20 11:06 AM (4 years, 8 hours ago)

Size has a lot to do with genetics. I’ve had very few medium or large shrooms and have been told it’s either genetic or over saturated coir will do it too.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a]
    #26460032 - 01/30/20 11:08 AM (4 years, 8 hours ago)

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a]
    #26460068 - 01/30/20 11:30 AM (4 years, 7 hours ago)

Thanks for the reply. My coir was as per Bods bucket tek and field capacity seemed perfect, so I dont think it would be that.

I have added to my post above the fact my lid is actually opaque, which I've only really just noticed could be the issue?!


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: chemicalbros]
    #26460115 - 01/30/20 11:59 AM (4 years, 7 hours ago)

How deep was your substrate? Shallow subs make small fruits, as do overly dry or wet subs. Post a picture...


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: AyePlus]
    #26460213 - 01/30/20 12:56 PM (4 years, 6 hours ago)

Hasn’t the shallow sub thing been disproven?

I could totally see it being a factor for newer growers because I think with the thinner sub it had to be watered more often.

But I know there was a thread about it where somebody grew huge mushrooms in a quart jar with like no sub.

I always wonder about that cuz I’ve only done shoeboxes and the biggest shroom I’ve ever had was like 3.7 dry. And it was just the one. Besides that I’ve had a handful of 25G+ wet ones and that’s it.

I’m about ready to spawn a bigger tub to see if it makes a difference.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26460461 - 01/30/20 03:09 PM (4 years, 4 hours ago)

If you bottom water that goes out the window. Mono tubs are generally meant to be set and forget then harvest.

I have used shallow/ dry subs and bottom watering with great success but thats def more advanced and I was trying to keep it simple.

I generally only do that with bacterial spawn too, which i used to have alot of when I was mainly running oats. Since switching to wheat and rye  I’ve been having more success with wetter and deeper subs. They take a little longer to colonize but the yield is much better than if you forget or dont wNt to bottom water.

Also have noticed with the longer colonization comes denser and (anecdotally) more potent fruits. If your spawn is in any way questionable I dont recommend it though because the longer colonization and wetter conditions let any contams flourish.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: AyePlus]
    #26461885 - 01/31/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

How many half pint jars would you recommend for a 66qt monotub? We're planning on doing a BRF-tek


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Tarawinters]
    #26461913 - 01/31/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

1 q = 2 pints = 4 half pints...


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: trubblesome]
    #26461933 - 01/31/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: trubblesome]
    #26461942 - 01/31/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Okay! Thanks for the response! So you're saying use 4 half pint jars of fully colonized BRF to spawn to bulk? And that will yield good results in a 66qt monotub?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Tarawinters]
    #26461951 - 01/31/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

not quite...use the substrate calculator aiko aiko posted and multiply the number of quarts it tells you to use by 4 to get the half pints necessary

re-read the tek too


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: trubblesome]
    #26461966 - 01/31/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

We're following two different guides, one for the actual BRF-TEK from evilmushroom and one for spawning to bulk from Bod. However EvilMushroom uses 5 half pint jars, while Bod does 12 for a 55qt monotub. Which is where the confusion is.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Tarawinters]
    #26461982 - 01/31/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Bigger tub means more sub/spawn. Use a shoebox or mini if you dont have enough for a full sized mono.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: AyePlus]
    #26462080 - 01/31/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

howd you end up in this thread if youre combing two teks that arent even this one? if youre deadset on using the 66qt tub my answer is still the same - use the calculator to determine how much sub you need for your container. divide that in half to get the quarts of spawn needed, and figure out the rest from there. id suggest following an established tek to the letter first if you cant figure this out on your own. not saying that to be a dick, i just think it will maximize your chances at success and let you see what the process is like. once you have that down, try messing around with your 66 qt.

something like this:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24945782

make 8 cakes for two boxes, then if one goes bad you havent lost a whole giant tub.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Aiko Aiko]
    #26462093 - 01/31/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: McGrimm]
    #26462321 - 01/31/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Cakes as spawn sucks. Cakes are 50% verm. I would consider that when using them as spawn that maybe you would use extra cakes to get some bang out of a grow If you go that route


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26464974 - 02/02/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Bod I am having a lot of trouble with my first tubs, how often do you mist before the first harvest? I have pins but feel the need to mist when the surface gets dry. There is a lot of different people on here saying different things. Some say to not mist at all and some say to mist all the time. Not misting at all sounds counter to growth. I need some help. If you would like some pictures I have a them on my account.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bigAPE] * 1
    #26464977 - 02/02/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You mist when needed. You'll have to learn that skill or get me an airline ticket


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26464980 - 02/02/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That's what I figured, could once a day really do that much harm if it's a light mist? The sub just seems to get dry so fast. I have read your guide many times and have four tubs all pinning with bad luck on the first one. They seemed to get about a few inches long and then stop growing. Just trying to get a good idea of mistakes that I could be making, thank you for your time and your guide. I will get his figured out eventually.


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