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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26185750 - 09/13/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Its about to explode with pins on the top. A little bit of a thin substrate. Picture 6 looks slightly concerning the dark corner. Keep us posted i bet you'll get a pretty good grow out of it. Practice makes perfect




This first grow has been a good lesson in patience. Need to practice it more often. Happy to report I have some pins revealing themselves on the top of the substrate. Very exciting. Already planning my next grow with your shoebox tek. How do surface conditions look based on the attached images?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26185852 - 09/13/19 11:59 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I agree... your photos look great!!!
Congrats.

I’m curious though... why would you go from these “set it and forget it” monotubs to shoeboxes?
I know you have your reasons and I consider them valid but it seems like a step backwards.

Ps
I’m starting to use shoeboxes for testing purposes so I’m not knocking you my friend.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26185946 - 09/13/19 12:57 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree... your photos look great!!!
Congrats.

I’m curious though... why would you go from these “set it and forget it” monotubs to shoeboxes?





Thanks! Thrilled to be at this point.

Thank you for asking this question, as it made me think a little bit. My primary motivation was space management and concealment. But I just figured out a way to conceal the monotub during the day, in a old TV stand. Just hooked up a light bulb inside the cabinet of TV stand, and can set a timer for 12/12. That should work perfectly. Also might prevent me from obsessively checking on it, since it will be out of the way. Thanks for the inspiration!


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26186318 - 09/13/19 04:21 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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YogiBear said:
I agree... your photos look great!!!
Congrats.

I’m curious though... why would you go from these “set it and forget it” monotubs to shoeboxes?





Thanks! Thrilled to be at this point.

Thank you for asking this question, as it made me think a little bit. Thanks for the inspiration!




Oh sure. No problem. You had your answer all along.

A properly asked question can lead someone to their answers.
Once they find the answer, they own it.
Once they own it they are unstoppable.

I run my lights from 5pm-5am.
Keeps the temps more balanced in the tubs throughout the day.

I am only one step ahead of you on this journey.
I’ve had some successful grows.
I have 12 20qt MiniMonos (Unmodified) and 12 6qt shoeboxes to work with.
Keep 1/2 of them nicely stacked in a corner of the room.
The other 1/2 are stacked in a closet.

Let us see your pins and fruits when they kick in!!!



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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DX2R]
    #26188801 - 09/14/19 08:53 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks for the tek BOD. Got my 1st 3 unmodified tubs going right now. Seems to be getting some mutants. I think my water droplets are a little on the thick side. Any thoughts?

Spawned on 8/28





Spawned on 8/31



Spawned on 9/6















I have to say things are getting a little weird over here ha ha!
-Just mutants from excessive moisture/poor FAE?
-Vert?
-What???


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DX2R]
    #26188802 - 09/14/19 08:54 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Bad case of psuedomonas/bacterial AF/ WAYYY too wet: which will cause symptoms of poor FAE due to insufficient evaporation, and in effect, poor convection currents

Judging by the green sprout, improperly sterilized/pasteurized and lucky to have any fruit at all...


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26188822 - 09/14/19 09:18 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

was just gnna say that


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DX2R]
    #26188834 - 09/14/19 09:29 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah you just prepped your substrate a lil too wet, that's why they came out like that. Hopefully itll take off big time second flush.  Congrats on the fruits


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26188910 - 09/14/19 10:33 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Bad case of psuedomonas/bacterial AF/ WAYYY too wet: which will cause symptoms of poor FAE due to insufficient evaporation, and in effect, poor convection currents

Judging by the green sprout, improperly sterilized/pasteurized and lucky to have any fruit at all...




Thanks Caps.
I can tell you that the grains were soaked for 20 hrs, boiled according to bods oat prep tek, until inside of grains were no longer white, then sterilized at 17-18 psi for 90 mins after 10 mins of replacing air with steam before putting on the shake weight so that sprout couldn't be from the grains. I can only assume its from the coir that I use that I pasteurized per bucket tek over night. I would agree that it stared out way too wet by not leaving lid ajar and over misting but wont make that mistake next time. Trial and error. I got some other things going so I will keep you guys posted on the progress of these next tubs.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Psicomb]
    #26188958 - 09/14/19 11:27 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey thanks Psicomvb! This was Burma MS. Im banking on my Cambodian cloned to agar transfered to grain water. This LC is ripping through this stuff like crazy and I'm looking forward to spawn them unBODified Lol! I'm not at all a TC or anyone to give advice to anyone, but not new to the hobby by any means just new to this tek and I can afford to have this happen. I got plenty of dried shrooms to last me a long time and I can only get better at this tek if I keep them coming and gain the experience with these tubs.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DX2R]
    #26189000 - 09/15/19 12:07 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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I have to say things are getting a little weird over here ha ha!
-Just mutants from excessive moisture/poor FAE?
-Vert?
-What???




Can you take a closer picture if the patter/spots at the base of the stems?
Really looks like a bad case of pseudomona bacteria. Stop misting them and if you want to consume them, first dry them properly in a dehydrator and make a tea out of them.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: sporecap]
    #26189016 - 09/15/19 12:21 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Gills turning upward in my experience is mushrooms looking for air.  Up your FAE and stop misting.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: sporecap]
    #26189085 - 09/15/19 01:43 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Can you take a closer picture if the patter/spots at the base of the stems?
Really looks like a bad case of pseudomona bacteria. Stop misting them and if you want to consume them, first dry them properly in a dehydrator and make a tea out of them.




Oh its definitely bacteria. I suffocated this tub at 1st while being saturated thinking I could just set and forget it. Na I won't be consuming these they will all go in the trash but I'm still going to let it ride out its course for observation. I find it interesting none the less and my wife loves looking at things through the 🔬. I'm not running low on shrooms to need to keep these so it's all good! 😉👍


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DX2R]
    #26189728 - 09/15/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey all,

Day 17. My first tub. Should I do anything at this time about the side pins? They are pushing the sub away from the wall. Made a few mistakes with misting and fanning I won't repeat for the next dub. Thanks for any advice.



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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26190930 - 09/16/19 03:19 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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YogiBear said:
I agree... your photos look great!!!
Congrats.

I’m curious though... why would you go from these “set it and forget it” monotubs to shoeboxes?







Let us see your pins and fruits when they kick in!!!






Thanks, Yogi. I checked out some of your teks with the 20qt mono. I will need to give that a shot. Looks like it might be a nice alternative to the shoebox as well. I am a microdoser and don't need lbs each grow. Whatever the mushroom gods want to give me, I'll take. Below are pics of my first fruits. A ton of side pinning. Hopefully easy to deal with when attempting Bod's Harvest tek. It's not much, but I am proud. Been a great learning experience and practice in patience.



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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26191919 - 09/16/19 02:14 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

It’s amazing how strong mushrooms are.

I think the 20qt Minis are the way to go for the beginner and the microdoser.

You get your feet wet in all aspects of Bulk cultivation... just on a smaller scale.



Edited by YogiBear (09/16/19 02:42 PM)


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26198813 - 09/20/19 07:36 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

First go at this Tek yesterday, Menards has the exact tub and I love not drilling holes and ruining a good tote. 😁 Years ago with my tub I always had moisture issues/inexperience so hopefully this clears it up now that I’ve got decent spawn system.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: CapitainFrog]
    #26200223 - 09/20/19 09:21 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Spawned 9/6





Had some dry surface issues hence the bruising but decent pinset so far on this tub.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DX2R]
    #26200301 - 09/20/19 10:43 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see any bruising... looks too wet, perhaps even a touch bacterial IMO... are you misting? Heavy misting, especially in the presence of already excess moisture, can cause bruising... could also indicate some hidden issue not far from showing face... heavy pinset and fluffy culture like that is suspect as well: might not make it, may go one stellar flush,  could be nothing wrong at all!  In the future, I would try to tighten FAE slightly to see if you can coax surface moisture to develop on its own, rather than misting to remedy a perceived issue...
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26200761 - 09/21/19 07:53 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Will definitely keep updated.. The sub has pulled a good bit from the sides since the pinset and has built up moisture there but the top got real dry when I left it (unintentially) all day with the lid sidways and the sufface mycelium turned blue and bruised. It was originally 650g choir/3.25L water when pasteurized. What sucks is I'm about to leave for Orlando and wont be back till Monday evening and I don't know what to expect when I get back. I also have a shoebox that has an awesome pinset right now and I'm worried about leaving it too.


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