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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26178563 - 09/09/19 08:23 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

If moisture content is on, there's no need to mist until after first flush... absolutely no reason to fan, ever: counterintuitive to Rh


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26178976 - 09/10/19 03:01 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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If moisture content is on, there's no need to mist until after first flush... absolutely no reason to fan, ever: counterintuitive to Rh




Thank you much. I chatted with a few folks from reddit, and it sounds like my main mistake has been fanning, as you pointed out. Would I want to dunk after first flush, or just mist heavily? Thanks


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: badsponge]
    #26178990 - 09/10/19 03:16 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, I know, I'm new too. I started about 8 months ago. Took me a while to learn that sometimes the best thing to do is just nothing :laugh:



Haha. True. I tend to overthink everything. Part of the reason I got into microdosing within the past few months. Helps more than any other anti-depressant or anxiety med I've used in the past 20 years. Absolutely amazing. Originally started the hobby just to grow some for MD, but I am having too much fun with the actual growing part. Will probably try some gourmet mushroom grows as well.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26179292 - 09/10/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Would I want to dunk after first flush, or just mist heavily?




I dunk for 3-5 hours after every flush. Yeah, I also got into this bc fungus cured my suicidal depression, and I decided mushrooms are so awesome, there needs to be much more in the world :grin:. Because of my hobby, I have significantly improved the lives of many others. Some of the things I've seen my friends use them for: they reduce the severity of migraine headaches, they helped one emotionally process a repeated gang-rape situation that haunted her for 30 years, and they helped another find renewed purpose to complete grad school. I have to keep doing this, for myself and others.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: badsponge]
    #26179635 - 09/10/19 12:48 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Would I want to dunk after first flush, or just mist heavily?




I dunk for 3-5 hours after every flush. Yeah, I also got into this bc fungus cured my suicidal depression, and I decided mushrooms are so awesome, there needs to be much more in the world :grin:. Because of my hobby, I have significantly improved the lives of many others. Some of the things I've seen my friends use them for: they reduce the severity of migraine headaches, they helped one emotionally process a repeated gang-rape situation that haunted her for 30 years, and they helped another find renewed purpose to complete grad school. I have to keep doing this, for myself and others.




Good for you. That's a great motivator, that's for sure, and I am glad to hear it has helped you and so many others. It's an amazing medicine. It kind of angers me that I've had to go through so much bullshit and needless medication for so many years, but I am happy now and that's what matters. I look forward to sharing my success story with shrooms publicly, but dad w/ wife and two kids I support - right now only my wife is privy to my growing and MDing. It would be nice to explain the actual reason to people why I seem so much happier and drinking so much less.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26179663 - 09/10/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Caps, I just mixed my spawn 4 days ago according to this tek, and there isn't any condensation build up on the walls of the tub. Is this normal or do I need to mist or something?

I did the tek with a liner, and a thin casing layer, and I see some growth, but no condensation or beads of water on top of the spawn/substrate.

Thanks!


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: HeroicDoses]
    #26179727 - 09/10/19 01:22 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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there isn't any condensation build up on the walls of the tub. Is this normal or do I need to mist or something?




Most important is how your substrate looks. I use coir, and if it's kinda dark, then it's fine. If it turns lighter brown, mist it. I usually have some condensation between the coir and the tub, but not above the coir level.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: badsponge]
    #26180399 - 09/10/19 07:23 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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there isn't any condensation build up on the walls of the tub. Is this normal or do I need to mist or something?




Most important is how your substrate looks. I use coir, and if it's kinda dark, then it's fine. If it turns lighter brown, mist it. I usually have some condensation between the coir and the tub, but not above the coir level.




I agree that the surface conditions are what matter most. Like he said about the darker color of the coco and that is until the mycelium starts covering the surface. My myc starts sweating a light glistening microbeads on the surface of the mycelium but if I see any large drops pooling I take the corner of a paper towel to get the big beads off the surface.

My tubs were dripping water from the lid above and pooling on the surface. I have walls that hold water but not running down in streams. Temperature differences inside and outside the tub is why you get condensation.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26180710 - 09/10/19 11:03 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Pictures help
Being able to judge and maintain surface conditions you can grow in any tub of pretty much any shape or size.
What's really more important is being able to adjust a FC either by moving the lid, adjusting polyfil stuffed holes, adding or removing tape from holes, or just making a series of smaller holes, to make it maintain surface conditions for you so you can work and have a life.

Its a mix of getting health spawn, perfectly hydrated substrate, proper tub configuration to maintain conditions, and giving maintenance or adjustment if and when needed. This will let you be able to grow from a mug or a tub or a shoebox or a shoe

Or a bra, a bible, a QP of weed, cigarette butts, or even a burrito

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I stick to the traditional ingredients myself.  Things like physics textbooks, burritos, string, dolls, bras, hats, bibles, quarter pounds of weed, piles of cash, ya know...nothing out of the ordinary. Of course, rye berries work great too.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26183223 - 09/12/19 03:29 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Bod,

Just want to make sure I understand a couple things. This is my first grow (ever) using 32 qt unmodified. I just saw my first pin on the side yesterday, and noticed more pins along side and bottom. Only a single pin visible on the top. I know based on your tek that you rarely get side pins because you make sure your surface conditions are conducive for proper pinning on top.

The sides of my tub appear to have more moisture than the surface. Would this indicate my surface it too dry, and I should mist more? I am fairly dense as well. Can you explain why side pins are undesirable? I don't understand why it matters where the mushrooms grow in the tub, as long as they can be harvested. I haven't really seen a clear answer, except that nobody wants them. Thanks. I posted a few pics of my tub for reference.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26183280 - 09/12/19 05:04 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/upload.php?action=viewthumb

I don't click off-site links for pictures. But its a moisture problem one way or another


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26183406 - 09/12/19 06:52 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/upload.php?action=viewthumb

I don't click off-site links for pictures. But its a moisture problem one way or another




Sorry, Bod. Thanks for response. I uploaded photos if you have any additional recommendations. Thanks again.



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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26183749 - 09/12/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Its about to explode with pins on the top. A little bit of a thin substrate. Picture 6 looks slightly concerning the dark corner. Keep us posted i bet you'll get a pretty good grow out of it. Practice makes perfect


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26183797 - 09/12/19 10:41 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Its about to explode with pins on the top. A little bit of a thin substrate. Picture 6 looks slightly concerning the dark corner. Keep us posted i bet you'll get a pretty good grow out of it. Practice makes perfect




Thanks, Bod. Relieved to hear. I'll provide a further update in the coming days. I am hoping the dark corner is the result of the thin substrate and slight bruising.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
    #26184904 - 09/12/19 08:56 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the tek BOD. Got my 1st 3 unmodified tubs going right now. Seems to be getting some mutants. I think my water droplets are a little on the thick side. Any thoughts?

Spawned on 8/28





Spawned on 8/31



Spawned on 9/6


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DX2R]
    #26184963 - 09/12/19 09:32 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Try a little more dry next time yours looks pretty wet. Otherwise great grow for a first go around only can learn and improve from here


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26184992 - 09/12/19 09:52 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. I think I was more afraid leaving it open while I'm home and been pretty much been sit and forgetting it with the lid upside down misting in the corners from time to time. I think my biggest problem is my walk in closet has no air flow or climate control so its pretty much still air in there during the day when I'm at work. I'm working on the do's and dont's for the future tubs. Gotta get the kinks out Lol! These 3 are burma and I got some GT MS and Cams cloned to agar to LC that will be ready to spawn in 3 or 4 days.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DX2R]
    #26185161 - 09/13/19 12:55 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Is that a grain sprouting?  :smile:


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: sporecap]
    #26185189 - 09/13/19 01:45 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Is that a grain sprouting?  :smile:




That sprout is cute!

I am having great success with Unmodified tubs thanks to Bod.

I’ve developed my entire operation on these concepts.

My last grow of Golden Teachers pinned on day 9 and first flush was done on day 15.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: YogiBear]
    #26185749 - 09/13/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I wanna say no. My weat berries were cooked up extremely well (no white in the middle). It has to be from the choir I get I'm guessing. I also got one sprouting in a Burma shoe box spawned to choir but who knows. I figured just leave it, can't hurt anything 👊😎


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