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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: funky123]
#26150575 - 08/24/19 09:05 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's plenty of downsides.
It can inhibit bacteria and make them undetectable but still transfered. When they get transferred to something without suppressing chemicals they'll bloom. Thus making agar a useless tool
They can make antibiotic resistant contamination as some bugs are already tolerant of common antibiotics
Most antibiotics can be stressful to your intended culture. Slowing its growth.
Antibiotics used when not necessary breeds bad habit, and avoids learning proper technique for things like transferring away from little colonies of contaminants.
It costs more
Some antibiotics are heat sensitive so people may be inadvertently destroying the potency of their antibiotics.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26150599 - 08/24/19 09:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: There's plenty of downsides.
It can inhibit bacteria and make them undetectable but still transfered. When they get transferred to something without suppressing chemicals they'll bloom. Thus making agar a useless tool
They can make antibiotic resistant contamination as some bugs are already tolerant of common antibiotics
Most antibiotics can be stressful to your intended culture. Slowing its growth.
Antibiotics used when not necessary breeds bad habit, and avoids learning proper technique for things like transferring away from little colonies of contaminants.
It costs more
Some antibiotics are heat sensitive so people may be inadvertently destroying the potency of their antibiotics.
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: funky123]
#26150713 - 08/24/19 10:51 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: You add the antibiotic pre-sterilization, if used. The only call for antibiotics is if you're cloning wild mushrooms with a high bacteria content. Even then, you can get by without it, but it's easier with. Never use it for general use. RR
One of the popular antibiotics gentamicin sulfate (which is an aminoglycoside and probably the one in the gluckspilze dishes) hardly works anyway it really only slows bacteria down and makes it harder to spot on dishes. And the entire point of dishes is to visualize any contaminants to get away from them. Gentamicin is one of the only antibiotics you can add before sterilization and wont get destroyed by the heat
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26150964 - 08/24/19 02:46 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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RogerRabbit said: You add the antibiotic pre-sterilization, if used. The only call for antibiotics is if you're cloning wild mushrooms with a high bacteria content. Even then, you can get by without it, but it's easier with. Never use it for general use. RR
One of the popular antibiotics gentamicin sulfate (which is an aminoglycoside and probably the one in the gluckspilze dishes) hardly works anyway it really only slows bacteria down and makes it harder to spot on dishes. And the entire point of dishes is to visualize any contaminants to get away from them. Gentamicin is one of the only antibiotics you can add before sterilization and wont get destroyed by the heat
That is good to know
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26151758 - 08/25/19 02:18 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
Asking how to cut corners isn't well received because the guides people make here are specifically to address how to not fail by being meticulous and avoiding corner cutting. If you want to corner cut there's plenty of premade stuff but you won't get anyone's blessings for using it
Yes I guess you are right, if a process works and it has been proven to work in practice, don't touch it. Apologies for the intrusion.
So actually I guess I am looking for this - I see you have been busy : Bod's Easy AF cheapest way to get started TEK
So I'm not really trying to "cut corners" but rather trying to find a balance between time spent vs quality assurance for the fit for (my) purpose.
I don't want to go bulk (not yet at least) but indeed this is the wrong thread for that. I learned some stuff on the way tho so thanks again, and great work in general.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Dolce]
#26156196 - 08/27/19 09:35 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey, I'm loving this thread.
Quick question, as I'm preparing to move from agar to grain jars and then to this tek:
Say I have 10 quarts of spawn (assuming no contams, which is generous). If I follow your Coir cooking tek and want to stick to a 1:2 ratio I should end up with around 20 of mixed spawn and sub.
Would I be able to get away with doing two 32qt tubs? Or will that be too much substrate for a smaller tub like that. I'm in a smaller apartment, and space is a commodity.
I figured I might be able to, since you seemed to use 7 quarts of spawn & 1 brick of coir (which should be around 8 quarts) in your bulk spawn video.
Also one smaller question, given how low-maintenance this tek seems to be once it's set up, will I have any issues leaving them in a closet vs. out in the open? I'm currently using a SGFC and it was too difficult to fan & mist in the closet so it's currently sitting in my bedroom which isn't exactly conspicuous.
Thanks so much for any advice Bod, your teks have basically gotten me from 0 to 100 in terms of knowledge on all this stuff.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Dolce]
#26156221 - 08/27/19 09:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dolce said:
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bodhisatta said:
Asking how to cut corners isn't well received because the guides people make here are specifically to address how to not fail by being meticulous and avoiding corner cutting. If you want to corner cut there's plenty of premade stuff but you won't get anyone's blessings for using it
Yes I guess you are right, if a process works and it has been proven to work in practice, don't touch it. Apologies for the intrusion.
So actually I guess I am looking for this - I see you have been busy : Bod's Easy AF cheapest way to get started TEK
So I'm not really trying to "cut corners" but rather trying to find a balance between time spent vs quality assurance for the fit for (my) purpose.
I don't want to go bulk (not yet at least) but indeed this is the wrong thread for that. I learned some stuff on the way tho so thanks again, and great work in general.
Just do the bod shoe box tek. It's very easy (arguably easier than that cheap way tek) and you get great bang for your buck. In very little time you'll have more product than you can poke a stick at and all you have to do is set and forget. Agar=easy oats=easy tipping that into a tub of moist coco fiber= easy. Waiting....moderately easy.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Quinnn]
#26156279 - 08/27/19 10:45 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your tubs length x width x depth of substrate = volume of substrate So if you have 20 quarts and want to do 2 tubs, 10 in each, divide 10 by the length of your tub X the width of tub ... 10 / (LxW)
Does anyone else have problems with buying tubs with warped lids? What's your solution? I duct tape them to fit properly upside down, also makes it better for stacking.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: primelines]
#26156303 - 08/27/19 11:18 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stack em a few times full and they level out. A few weights on the top tub helps.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26159874 - 08/29/19 09:29 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am looking forward to trying this Tek soon. I have some PE6 rye spawn that are growing at a really good rate so they will be my first mono tub. I don’t have room for anything larger than these 20 quart tubs. I can fit 4 easily under my bed so they get 2 thumbs up for being stealthy.
I am pretty much a complete rookie and never asked anyone this before but what do you recommend for a spawn ratio using these tubs.
I use 1 lb rye bags and 8 cups of coco for my sub. I think this about a 1:4 ratio.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: YogiBear] 1
#26159887 - 08/29/19 09:33 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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One part spawn to anywhere between one and four parts substrate
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26159955 - 08/29/19 10:23 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: One part spawn to anywhere between one and four parts substrate
Thanks :-)
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Re: Bod's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: YogiBear]
#26172400 - 09/06/19 11:36 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wanted to say thanks to Bod. I fallowed your tek almost to the T. I read all 186 pages of this thread. Along with 2 paper back books. My first flush today was 414 wet. And still got mad pins. I only used 500g coir, 2qt rye spawn,1 cup gypsum, and 2 qts vermiculite. Thank-you again. Also i Can't upload pics for some reason.
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Re: Bod's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: N8RAZZE]
#26172553 - 09/06/19 01:11 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#26177287 - 09/09/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi all,
Sent this in a PM to Bod because I am a dumbass, and should have asked in this forum:
I am following "broke boi tek" that uses your unmodified mono tek as a one of its components. Day 11 since spawning to coir in Monotub. This is my first grow attempt. Currently I am misting and fanning with lid for 60 second intervals twice daily. Anything else I can do to encourage pinning, or is patience the key at this point? Appreciate any input. Thanks man.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
#26177324 - 09/09/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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You probably don't need to mist/fan that much. You should mist if the sub looks dry. Just having a flipped lid with natural air flow should suffice for fanning. If your fruits start to get fuzzy feet, turn on a fan in the room to increase circulation. Sounds like you're overdoing it.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: badsponge]
#26177341 - 09/09/19 09:30 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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badsponge said: You probably don't need to mist/fan that much. You should mist if the sub looks dry. Just having a flipped lid with natural air flow should suffice for fanning. If your fruits start to get fuzzy feet, turn on a fan in the room to increase circulation. Sounds like you're overdoing it.
Appreciate this advice. I'll cut back to once a day, perhaps. I am still new, so still getting the hang of identifying surface conditions, and when I need to mist/fan/leave alone.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
#26177420 - 09/09/19 10:14 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I know, I'm new too. I started about 8 months ago. Took me a while to learn that sometimes the best thing to do is just nothing
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: elevatedfather]
#26177461 - 09/09/19 10:36 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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elevatedfather said:
Appreciate this advice. I'll cut back to once a day, perhaps. I am still new, so still getting the hang of identifying surface conditions, and when I need to mist/fan/leave alone.
read the tek man
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: mushboy]
#26177519 - 09/09/19 10:59 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
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elevatedfather said:
Appreciate this advice. I'll cut back to once a day, perhaps. I am still new, so still getting the hang of identifying surface conditions, and when I need to mist/fan/leave alone.
read the tek man
I should have expected that response Sorry for wasting everyone's time. This is such a great site, and appreciate everyone's contribution. Long time lurker, and signed up not too long ago when I started my first grow (this one).
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