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Spreadtheknowledge
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25927292 - 04/10/19 04:57 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where I am I cant find filter disks that small of micron but I can get a bunch of those .22 syringe filters for really cheap can I just take those apart and use the disc inside lol sounds dumb I know but I cant find the proper discs will this work
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
#25927511 - 04/10/19 07:14 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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While not a 54qt, i opted for a little smaller and this 32qt is looking good, first pins are showing through, and plennnnty of hypal knotting accross the surface Thought id share it here, where i got the inspiration to do bulk.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25929381 - 04/11/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Today I picked up 2 sterilite 66 qt tubs from target for 10 bucks each, I was looking for the 54qt or 32 qt. But they didn't have them. I found a 5 kilo block of Coir for cheap on amazon. A 50lbs bag of producers pride whole oats for 15 bucks. I have my 3rd transfer plates of b+ about a week a way from transferring to grain. My question is ( at the risk of being flamed for not figuring it out myself, but I am shit at math.) Will my plan of 800 g of coir, 4000g of water, using your bucket tek. Along with 5qt of spawn, per unmodified tub. Be a reasonable quantity for my 66qt tubs. Or should I adjust upward say another qt of spawn and an appropriate amount of sub and if so what would the recommended amount of sub be,maybe 900g Coir and 4500g water? TIA
Edited by Grocko (04/11/19 06:37 PM)
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Pigsarefood
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Grocko]
#25931197 - 04/12/19 06:56 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Read through this tek on a whim and decided to jump back into this after..well look at my register date. Thanks a ton Bodi.
I'm having some trouble with excessive side pins. My tubs are healthy and pinning like crazy, but this is my first time not using or liner or taping the sides with black tape. I used the same techniques outlined in the tek without any modification.
Any tips to try and mitigate my side pins? For the tubs where side pins are going to be inevitable and difficult to harvest, what are your thoughts on when they start rotting? In the past I've let my tubs keep flushing until they die.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Grocko]
#25931234 - 04/12/19 07:13 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know you're not asking me directly, but I have been doing 7 jars of grain per 650(ish) grams coir. 650x5 =3.25L of water. This is my first time doing this style monotub, but in the past I've liked to err on the side of more jars rather than less. It may not be totally necessary, but the time waiting for growth decreases and I haven't ever really had contam issues.
I'd say your probably okay there, but if in doubt just throw another jar in. It certainly won't hurt.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Pigsarefood]
#25931371 - 04/12/19 08:29 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Get the surface conditions perfect and you won't have sidepins. Here is a good read:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053
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Grocko
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Pigsarefood]
#25931574 - 04/12/19 10:49 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you for your input Pigsarefood, can I ask what size your tub is?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Pigsarefood]
#25931924 - 04/13/19 07:11 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Grocko said: Today I picked up 2 sterilite 66 qt tubs from target for 10 bucks each, I was looking for the 54qt or 32 qt. But they didn't have them. I found a 5 kilo block of Coir for cheap on amazon. A 50lbs bag of producers pride whole oats for 15 bucks. I have my 3rd transfer plates of b+ about a week a way from transferring to grain. My question is ( at the risk of being flamed for not figuring it out myself, but I am shit at math.) Will my plan of 800 g of coir, 4000g of water, using your bucket tek. Along with 5qt of spawn, per unmodified tub. Be a reasonable quantity for my 66qt tubs. Or should I adjust upward say another qt of spawn and an appropriate amount of sub and if so what would the recommended amount of sub be,maybe 900g Coir and 4500g water? TIA
You could use 4q of spawn and 650 coir and be fine. So yes you're fine.
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Pigsarefood said: Read through this tek on a whim and decided to jump back into this after..well look at my register date. Thanks a ton Bodi.
I'm having some trouble with excessive side pins. My tubs are healthy and pinning like crazy, but this is my first time not using or liner or taping the sides with black tape. I used the same techniques outlined in the tek without any modification.
Any tips to try and mitigate my side pins? For the tubs where side pins are going to be inevitable and difficult to harvest, what are your thoughts on when they start rotting? In the past I've let my tubs keep flushing until they die.
Cheers
Practice and surface conditions. Side pins are easy to harvest Don't let em rot.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25933221 - 04/13/19 09:15 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey I'm wondering on average with an isolated strain how many dry oz are you looking at per 54 qt tub? Also I'm doing this in a place I shouldn't be lol so if I have a stack of these tubs in a small closet with the door closed will that be enough air or do I have to have the door open?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
#25933619 - 04/14/19 06:25 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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There is no way to know until you do it. Could be a couple shrooms or an ounce per quart of spawn or more. A lot depends on genetics.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: rickyswamps]
#25933754 - 04/14/19 08:46 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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The best estimate of yield is based on amount or spawn used
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Spreadtheknowledge
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25933976 - 04/14/19 10:50 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks bod I figured it would be hard to estimate but what about if I leave a stack of tuba in a small closet do I have to have the door opened or will the be ok with it closed?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
#25934040 - 04/14/19 11:29 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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whichever way works better
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Pigsarefood
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25934064 - 04/14/19 11:44 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Grocko said: Thank you for your input Pigsarefood, can I ask what size your tub is?
A 54q, the same one used in the tek.
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bodhisatta said: Practice and surface conditions. Side pins are easy to harvest Don't let em rot.
After reading through a bunch of posts I'm still a bit confused as to: -Is my moisture level too high? I've done nothing to the tub since it's creation. Flipped the lid and let it sit. -Is my FAE too low? It's still too cold here to have the window open, and during the day nobody is here. So, airflow around the room is fairly non-existent.
I've never had side pinning issues before. I'm going to try two things that I used to do. -First is to wrap the bottom 1/3 of my next tub with black gorilla tape (light won't pass through it with a single layer). I hate liners and I used to do this with all my tubs. -Second is to have a small fan circulating air around the room. Not blowing directly onto the tubs.
Anyone have thoughts or input? I just ordered a nice set of shelves so I don't have to fuck around with stacking anymore.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#25934878 - 04/14/19 06:43 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can someone explain why most people use a sab upside down instead of just holes with the regular lid what is the reason to this and are there disadvantages to using the sab without using a table as the bottom and just having the lid on right side up? Thanks for any info
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
#25934957 - 04/14/19 07:28 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Either side of my tub has moisture issues - gets dry pretty quickly. Have it dialed in now, but anyone else have a fix for this?
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Pigsarefood
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
#25935231 - 04/14/19 10:35 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spreadtheknowledge said: Can someone explain why most people use a sab upside down instead of just holes with the regular lid what is the reason to this and are there disadvantages to using the sab without using a table as the bottom and just having the lid on right side up? Thanks for any info 
I use mine upside down because: -You have more surface to work with -You're dealing with a flat table surface instead of the slightly concaved surface of the tub -When doing G2G I have 11 quart jars stuffed into my SAB, so the more room I have/the easier it is to slide jars around the better.
Either way would work depending on what you're doing I suppose, but why needlessly give up more working area?
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Pigsarefood]
#25941768 - 04/18/19 02:59 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Highly thinking of doing this for my first go around with a 32 qt.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#25944819 - 04/19/19 11:46 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Followed your Tek BOD-- worked like a charm. Just harvested a great yield.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: DezzertScout82] 1
#25945288 - 04/20/19 08:41 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice, i always like when people with <10 posts post a canopy. Makes me think I made my guides clear enough for anyone.
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