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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: woofwoof]
    #25813307 - 02/14/19 07:11 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Do you guys think 3 quarts of spawn to 1 brick of straight coir in a 66 qt tub is going to be ok? Or is 3 quarts kinda shy? What should I expect to happen using 3 quarts of spawn using this tek?




My total inexperienced way of thinking is, "more is better" when it comes to spawn. Oats are relatively cheap, as is agar. So, I figure I can prepare and inoculate 7 jars (what my PC holds) as easily as I can prep a lower number of jars. Hope we both end up with lots of fruit.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: styro]
    #25813737 - 02/15/19 02:44 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Yes I think it is my water level's are too high-I know its real heavy-I used more spawn to my hpoo/straw so that shouldn't be a problem.I will drop temps to your suggestion.Maybe I can rid myself of the Oil/Evil filled space heater of dryness.I fairly new to the bulk tek's spent too much time learning Agar.

I will get some pictures up soon asap-need to make things better-my cakes are blueing up bad and have a weird spicy smell LOL must be some sorta infection I have them cased with verm hard to tell,there pinned up lumpy or getting over growth.Sure taking there sweet time.My stuff must all be too moist(other than those cakes) as all my tubs take so long.Dryer is better I am understanding now.Perfect field capacity been a problem for me even with cakes-thought i had it right this time.

I will admit I kinda followed the tek-mostly- all but proper amount of water in cups-I just do the squeeze thing which is not working for me and using Hpoo/straw tried 1:1 but ended up with less hpoo more spawn.

I have lot's of coco for next time-but can only get the 27 or 61 size sterlite containers though.I think I use the 27 and do a few/cut down chances of killing one big grow.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25815002 - 02/15/19 04:13 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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7qt to 600g is close to 1:1 spawn ratio... what ratio are you using RP? Are you following this tek and fruiting from spawn? How wet are you initially? I find higher spawn ratio, fruiting conditions from spawn, and spot on/slightly dry field capacity coir to have more an effect on speed than higher temps (which only increase favorability of conditions for contaminants above 68-70°F (20-21°C) IMO/E) and expect it to be fully colonized by the end of day 5, with surface colonization similar to styro's timeline above... got any pictures of your tubs? I'd almost bet on excess moisture present




Caps. The initial growth I saw soon after spawn has seemed to slow/stall. Not much difference in the day 2 picture and how it looks now (day 4). I've misted a few times due to it looking slightly dry -- not majorly dry -- and have left the lid off periodically when I'm home. Should I be concerned or not worry about it and let it be?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: styro]
    #25815297 - 02/15/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

3 qts to a brick is about 1:3... I'd spawn 3 1qt shoeboxes 1:2 personally... 1:3 will work out if the spawn is clean,  but will take longer to colonize, and won't produce any significant surplus in yield comparably IMO


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25815367 - 02/15/19 07:05 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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3 qts to a brick is about 1:3... I'd spawn 3 1qt shoeboxes 1:2 personally... 1:3 will work out if the spawn is clean,  but will take longer to colonize, and won't produce any significant surplus in yield comparably IMO




Thats kinda what I was thinking too, that 3 quarts of spawn to one brick. I was thinking that more possible for contams due to the slower colonization times.

I flipped lid right at get go. 24 hours later, I do see myc beginning. I am not using the same types of tubs as in OP. I have tub with 2 latches on end. I am not gunna mist or do anything until it looks more colonized. I just been reading up on the surface conditions thread and my take away is keep the surface beaded and not to over mist. My tub though, the walls do seem a bit tall. But my substrate depth is about 3.5-4" depth. So, probably dumb question like always from me (sorry) is, do surface conditions remain the same regardless if less/more spawn? Im doing a 66 qt tub


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: woofwoof]
    #25815410 - 02/15/19 07:49 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

a properly dialed in mono will be less work and retain moisture better than a shoebox.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: JHOVA]
    #25815462 - 02/15/19 08:14 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I dont mist but once typically (if at all) before first flush harvest: shoeboxes or unmodified tubs... I find allowing evaporation to occur between mistings, to a point the surface is nearly dry before misting again, to render my best results


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25815490 - 02/15/19 08:26 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

That’s what I’m reading also. Mist if no beads, evap, repeat. Colonizing period is treated same? Or I should see my moisture content about 50-80% colonization? To my untrained eye it appears no moisture is on surface, but sub is dark now with spots of myc


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: woofwoof]
    #25815545 - 02/15/19 08:55 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I Dont typically see surface moisture until a day or two after full colonization... the mycelium acts semi-impermeable and hold beads of moisture on the surface, prior to full colonization, the uncolonized coir will simply resorb it... I don't even consider misting until it's developed on it's own and evaporated again


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25815553 - 02/15/19 09:02 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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I Dont typically see surface moisture until a day or two after full colonization... the mycelium acts semi-impermeable and hold beads of moisture on the surface, prior to full colonization, the uncolonized coir will simply resorb it... I don't even consider misting until it's developed on it's own and evaporated again


Now I know what you been saying so many times in this thread about it. haha, now that I am experiencing the reality of this, the answers have been there the whole time. Thank you caps


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: woofwoof]
    #25815575 - 02/15/19 09:22 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Repetition is helpful... I need a list of quotes to just copy and paste:  though my autofill is pretty good at conveying the message lol


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25815580 - 02/15/19 09:27 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Repetition is helpful... I need a list of quotes to just copy and paste:  though my autofill is pretty good at conveying the message lol



haha yep!! I have read this whole thread twice and I see many repeats of the quotes


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: woofwoof]
    #25815589 - 02/15/19 09:32 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I wish everyone would read these types of threads in their entirity: it would answer many questions they've not even needed to ask yet... my autofill, just for fun:

The yellowing is metabolites from stress fruiting caused by contamination IME be fully colonized by the end of the spectrum...

Obviously random bullshit, but you get the jist of the majority of the types of things I type lol...


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25815601 - 02/15/19 09:40 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

yea haha shows that those words or phrases are heavily used haha.  This tek answered alot of my questions aout growing in general which is awesome, now that I am actually in the process, I am going to re read now that I have some physical experience and how to match the answers given in the post, seeing it clear perspective


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: woofwoof]
    #25815605 - 02/15/19 09:42 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

It makes more sense when your doing it and reading the thread, then instead of armchair growing, because it is ideas at that point and doesn't stick (to me at least) until I am in the actual situation


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: woofwoof]
    #25815775 - 02/15/19 11:47 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Can I just randomly add that this tek works completely fine even without a transparent lid if your light source comes from the side (like a window). As long as the sides are transparent.

I have used both tall tubs and shallow, both with lids that have not been transparent and it has worked just fine. Great even. I have also had tubs with transparent lids and it hasn't made any difference. Transparent lids are obviously preferable as they will let MORE light in, but from what I can see they're not necessary at all. I have had many an amazing grow without.

Transparent lids are obviously 100% necessary if using an overhead light source.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: MrCraggles]
    #25816202 - 02/16/19 07:16 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Not true... all my shoeboxes have either white or light green lids that light passes through quite effectively from overhead... the darker green, and purple lids allow light in, but not as efficiently


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25816674 - 02/16/19 12:42 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I been All over the map and need just "One Good Bulk Tek"

I think this would be the best Tek If I could figure it out-I thought the Poly fill would work for me but I cannot figure that out.
I have a few tubs I am trying with holes and a few without.

Would you think the Poly fill be a easier Tek for a Newbie Or would This Tek Be the Ideal Tek for a newbie-then at least you do not ruin good tubs with hole's.

I have the tub knowledge down good and know what one is trying to achieve-I myself just cannot get it right yet.I think this will take a few grow's to get a nice even flush.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: rockpup]
    #25816730 - 02/16/19 01:10 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

This one worked great for me when I was in my earlier stages of growing. The major thing is just making sure your spawn is clean so one bad jar doesn't ruin a whole tub.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: rockpup]
    #25816738 - 02/16/19 01:13 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Have you tried shoeboxes? Just spawned a full size mono (64qt) for fun:



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