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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25370121 - 08/06/18 02:39 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)



Gonna be spawning two unmodified 32qt mini monos and one unmodified 56qt mono by the weekend (AA+). Hopefully will get some good harvests off these.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) *DELETED* [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25370129 - 08/06/18 02:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: BobbyFischer]
    #25370144 - 08/06/18 02:48 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Lol I mean I guess but if something works well I'm gonna tell people about it especially people starting out. However the golden advice is bods teks. The kit is just the training wheels. If you wanna learn how to swim you don't just jump in the deep end. You would just drown.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25370152 - 08/06/18 02:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The whole point in using a kit is that its self contained.

If you're going to put it in a monotub, then you're essentially way overpaying for a small bag of grain

Additionally, you have no control over the preparation/moisture content

Just make your own :thumbup:


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25370169 - 08/06/18 03:02 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: pixelpopper]
    #25370180 - 08/06/18 03:06 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yea I agree to an extent... but the kit still helps because as a new person you learn a lot of important steps. Just learning to work in a SAB with gloves and sterile steps. Gaining confidence and also watching and learning the growth process. I mean the tubs are easy to get so you could always get one and use it whenever you want. Placing the kit into the tub transitions you into learning how to use the unmodified tub in many ways like monitoring your substrate to know when you should mist and fan. Also comparing the growth rates from the kit to this tek. All valuable information and a learning process that's to have better chance of success. As you graduate on to doing more. It's really a process called "chunking" where you learn through breaking things down into smaller portions. The navy seals use this but hey just my opinion and experience. I'm happy I took this route because trying to master Every step all at once can be overwhelming for someone with no experience and you gain confidence as you go. The kit takes out a lot of the guess work.  :wink:


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25370183 - 08/06/18 03:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yea I gotcha but you can grow many types of mushrooms with this kit. But I do see what you are saying.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25370225 - 08/06/18 03:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The tec does so well in explaining everything to the first flush. What do I do after that.  I followed the harvesting tec, How long should I leave the cake floating in the water before draining? Then once that is complete is it back to the 12 on 12 off lighting cycle and more waiting?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: molopo905]
    #25370244 - 08/06/18 03:36 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Most people say 2-4hrs. I just ran mine underwater for a min though. Then yes right back into fruiting conditions with 12/12 light schedule.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25370322 - 08/06/18 04:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Most people say 2-4hrs. I just ran mine underwater for a min though. Then yes right back into fruiting conditions with 12/12 light schedule.




Great I will get this back on schedule then.  I was not home to harvest at the proper time and a lot of spores were dropped on the sub. Does this harm future flushes?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: molopo905]
    #25370682 - 08/06/18 07:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Lol I mean I guess but if something works well I'm gonna tell people about it especially people starting out. However the golden advice is bods teks. The kit is just the training wheels. If you wanna learn how to swim you don't just jump in the deep end. You would just drown.



That's EXACTLY how I learned to swim... In fact... lol... with a kit, you're still susceptible to contamination, it's just a marketing scheme
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Most people say 2-4hrs. I just ran mine underwater for a min though. Then yes right back into fruiting conditions with 12/12 light schedule.




Great I will get this back on schedule then.  I was not home to harvest at the proper time and a lot of spores were dropped on the sub. Does this harm future flushes?



There's a bit of disagreement there, but you can rinse them off... just no high pressure, doesn't seem too be discernably detrimental in cultivation, but in the wild, spores dropping on the substrate may [or may not] signal the fungus that it's job is done for the season... but idk


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25370803 - 08/06/18 08:23 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sorry if I replied to the wrong person here. I'm seeking help. My unmonofied tub has been spawned from 5 clean (to my visual knowledge) g2g to straight coir. Put into fruiting conditions as soon as I made the tub. Misting it once or twice daily to keep the shimmer on surface. like 75-80% colonized but it started to pin early. Is it my spawn? Im sure I've read you saying fae doesn't cause pinning. I'm letting it ride out with no worry just curious what I've done wrong. Cheers!

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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: psilocynonyms]
    #25370821 - 08/06/18 08:31 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I don't see any pins. Doesn't look healthy.
You absolutely shouldn't need to mist before full colonization.
It should always take under 9-10 days to achieve full colonization with any reasonable spawn ratio


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25370986 - 08/06/18 09:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Ok that's a crucial step I've seemed to miss. Thanks for making things so clear and easy. I'm at day 7 of colonization. I thought colonization was moving quite fast. As in unhealthy do you mean bad conditions or more like contams from unhealthy spawn? Thanks again by all means I don't try to sound like a pain and I've used the search as much as possible without posting an incredibly common question.


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25371134 - 08/06/18 10:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Lol! Yea I mean avoiding contamination is the name of the game no matter what you use!


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25371161 - 08/06/18 11:10 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Contamination (that causes problems)  generally comes from your spawn... seeing as we spawn to bulk in open air, it's full of contaminant spores from that day forward: the reason we generate spawn in sterile conditions, is so that we have a healthy, living, and well established culture present... contaminant spores also require germination, so what we hope, is that the mycelium colonizes all or most of the substrate prior to this occurring, and the contaminants growing to the point of issue... FAE  (evaporation) most certainly is a trigger for pins, along with full colonization of the substrate... you shouldn't have to mist until after first harvest, but definitely not before full colonization: my tubs generally don't show surface moisture until fully colonized a day or 2...


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25371211 - 08/06/18 11:30 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

How many qts spawn, how many qts coir (and how much dry to start with?) for a 32qt Sterilite Air Tight Tote?

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Skipio]
    #25371220 - 08/06/18 11:33 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Prolly in the tek bud... I'd guess 5? I use 4 in 27qt tubs


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25371233 - 08/06/18 11:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Prolly in the tek bud... I'd guess 5? I use 4 in 27qt tubs



1. I'm guessing the "4" is a figure referring to spawn. Are those 2/3-filled, in accordance with Bod's recommendations?
2. Is that recommendation (4qts spawn for a 27qt) in accordance with a recommendation made by Bod?


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25371236 - 08/06/18 11:44 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Prolly in the tek bud... I'd guess 5? I use 4 in 27qt tubs



Also, from what I'd read, he'd only addressed specifics for larger tubs... I guess I could try to calculate based on those recommendations though.


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