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Re: Still working it out [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25362868 - 08/02/18 07:15 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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Made three tubs on 7/23
Two MS pesa tubs and one MS wild Texas
Pictured today 8/2 only 10 days later
Already pins 1cm talk on all tubs

Fruited at spawning







How many qts spawn per tub?


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Re: Still working it out [Re: pixelpopper]
    #25362929 - 08/02/18 07:37 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Between 5 and 7


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Re: Still working it out [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25364946 - 08/03/18 05:55 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Ding!



Think I'm just gonna harvest them like a canopy. Fuck it, close enough.


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Re: Still working it out [Re: boom boom]
    #25364955 - 08/03/18 05:59 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Still working it out [Re: boom boom]
    #25364956 - 08/03/18 06:00 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I like them better pre-rupture


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25365122 - 08/03/18 07:37 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Is there a specific reason that you aim to put the tub into fruiting around 80%, rather than 100%? Do you find that it reduces side pins and/or improves pinsets? No matter what I do I always get at least a few side pins, and I'm wondering if fruiting at 100% is my problem.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #25365145 - 08/03/18 07:45 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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Is there a specific reason that you aim to put the tub into fruiting around 80%, rather than 100%? Do you find that it reduces side pins and/or improves pinsets? No matter what I do I always get at least a few side pins, and I'm wondering if fruiting at 100% is my problem.



I've found fruiting straight from spawn to yield faster and better results...  I'm thinking a "colonization period"for bulk is in it's way out, along with colonizing grain in near darkness


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25365158 - 08/03/18 07:49 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Check out his video on spawning a tub. He kind of pats the edges down around the sides. I tried it for this last tub and I didn't have a single one.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: boom boom]
    #25365167 - 08/03/18 07:52 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

My heaviest fruit was 16 grams wet. There was a taller skinnier one that weighed in at 13. That was the one I mentioned before. Took some clone samples from the taller one figuring it might give me some nice tall canopies. That will be my next run.


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: boom boom]
    #25365182 - 08/03/18 07:55 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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Check out his video on spawning a tub. He kind of pats the edges down around the sides. I tried it for this last tub and I didn't have a single one.



This helps tremendously, but surface conditions are pertinent... I've seen no side pins on a shrunken, second flush, with no liner... and I've seen tons of side pins on a tub that was tamped, had a liner, and had yet to pull away from the tub


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25365202 - 08/03/18 08:07 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

its entirely about surface conditions

grow enough tubs with shit surfaces and you will fully understand this point


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25365346 - 08/03/18 09:27 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

But I thought the substrate needed to be 100% colonized for pins to form? With this tek are you getting pins before 100% colonization? How are your results better? Thanks!


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25365369 - 08/03/18 09:38 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

pins will form whenever they are ready to

Think about it like this, if you have a big chunk of colonized grain that isn't broken into pieces, then it may start pinning before the rest of the sub colonizes


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25365370 - 08/03/18 09:40 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, no pins until 100%... but mycelium needs O2 to grow, not CO2... introducing "fruiting conditions" at spawn  (increasing FAE from the start) allows for faster colonization IME/O (and others)... "increased co2 levels for even pinset" is outdated misinformation... it's all about surface conditions (level, consistent density, and beads of moisture, not pools)... I typically don't see moisture until a day or 2 after full colonization of the top surface


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25365474 - 08/03/18 10:44 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I gotcha. How much quicker is colonization with this tek...a couple days? Are you flipping the lid over right away?


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25365491 - 08/03/18 10:52 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Yes and yes


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Moonmartian]
    #25365496 - 08/03/18 10:55 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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I gotcha. How much quicker is colonization with this tek...a couple days? Are you flipping the lid over right away?



Speed depends on the quality of spawn you can make not any tek.

And yes in the first post(the tek) I explain "growing conditions"


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25365509 - 08/03/18 11:02 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Given identical conditions at spawn, I saw pins roughly 36 hours quicker with the lid flipped than with it sealed... this was also MS,so dealing with that variant... now that I've clone cultures, I'm excited to narrow them down to a few isolates and do true side by side comparisons with one genetic sequence, and many variables


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Caps McGee] * 1
    #25365515 - 08/03/18 11:05 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I mean I see pins faster Fruiting at spawning too but I didn't want to oversell it lol


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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25365524 - 08/03/18 11:09 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Lolol right? Definitely noteworthy that it all depends on clean spawn though... no tek will be reliable without it (clean spawn I mean)


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