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clan91
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: GrimTroll]
#25344117 - 07/24/18 10:22 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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My tubs have been limping along for a while and about a week ago started developing a bunch of knots followed by pins (I thought the knots were some kind of mold finally taking over at first). Things were finally starting to look up right at the point I was set to leave town for five days (The Gorge!). So, my wife was left to tend the flock while I was gone. Much to my surprise, one tub exploded with caps the morning of the day I returned.
Not as beautiful as some of the canopies I've seen on here, but this little tub netted me 735 wet grams (total haul from both tubs to date = 95 dried grams):

Here's a couple nice ones:

Needles to say, I'm stoked. Took a lot longer than it should have and there were definitely issues at different points (all my fault, no doubt) and on more than one occasion I considered dumping the whole thing and starting over. Glad I persevered!
Thanks Bod for the TEK and everyone who chimed in with input!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: clan91]
#25344143 - 07/24/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Qayyn Eb-Ur said: This looks fluffy and weird compared to you guy’s pics. Too humid? Bacterial? I’ll say that I’m aware that I’ve made a lot of mistakes this first time like the level surface, and not cleaning the sides. I assume that’s why the myc is climbing the sides.

Looks alright to me! The myc usually walks 1/2" or so on me, even wiping the sides... causes no issues, and will come off as the sub shrinks and you harvest first flush
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#25344176 - 07/24/18 11:00 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said:
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Qayyn Eb-Ur said: This looks fluffy and weird compared to you guy’s pics. Too humid? Bacterial? I’ll say that I’m aware that I’ve made a lot of mistakes this first time like the level surface, and not cleaning the sides. I assume that’s why the myc is climbing the sides.

Looks alright to me! The myc usually walks 1/2" or so on me, even wiping the sides... causes no issues, and will come off as the sub shrinks and you harvest first flush
Noted. Thank cap. Большое спасибо
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Qayyn Eb-Ur] 1
#25344228 - 07/24/18 11:43 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Пожалуйста
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ristorcius
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: ristorcius]
#25346752 - 07/25/18 06:36 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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day 31 of my first grow. approaching harvest.
fairly abundant side pinning, and there's a patch in a corner or two that seems drier and hasn't produced many pins. i'm guessing my surface conditions are inadequate, simply due to uneven moisture/quicker drying...?
also noticed mycelium on some of the growing mushrooms. i've heard this is due to inadequate fresh air exchange.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: ristorcius]
#25346825 - 07/25/18 07:19 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everything about this culture has seemed fast. Clone taken from an early cluster, 7 quarts wheat berry spawn to a brick of coir and 2 quarts of vermiculite.
2 days later:
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Sivarted]
#25347013 - 07/25/18 08:57 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sivarted said: Everything about this culture has seemed fast. Clone taken from an early cluster, 7 quarts wheat berry spawn to a brick of coir and 2 quarts of vermiculite.
2 days later:

Looking good!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Sivarted]
#25347592 - 07/26/18 07:50 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sivarted said: Everything about this culture has seemed fast. Clone taken from an early cluster, 7 quarts wheat berry spawn to a brick of coir and 2 quarts of vermiculite.
2 days later:

Very nice!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: ristorcius]
#25347595 - 07/26/18 07:51 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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ristorcius said:


day 31 of my first grow. approaching harvest.
fairly abundant side pinning, and there's a patch in a corner or two that seems drier and hasn't produced many pins. i'm guessing my surface conditions are inadequate, simply due to uneven moisture/quicker drying...?
also noticed mycelium on some of the growing mushrooms. i've heard this is due to inadequate fresh air exchange.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: Mush Hunter]
#25347762 - 07/26/18 09:40 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks. I'm new to all of this. Literally just started to create my first ever spawn...so thanks for sharing and making my life even easier. I do like an easy life.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: MrCraggles]
#25348000 - 07/26/18 11:52 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just spawned my first Unmodified tub with clean spawn (MSS>Agar>two transfers>Grain). My first two MSS>Grain tubs are contam'd but they may still give me one flush. Much more hopeful with this one since I know the spawn is clean.
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Re: Unmodified(no holes no poly) 54q Fruiting Chamber(off the shelf monotub) TEK [Re: NorthernKronic]
#25348027 - 07/26/18 12:04 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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NorthernKronic said: Just spawned my first Unmodified tub with clean spawn (MSS>Agar>two transfers>Grain). My first two MSS>Grain tubs are contam'd but they may still give me one flush. Much more hopeful with this one since I know the spawn is clean.
Good luck, dude! My tubs seemed to be contaminated and the surface conditions were never particularly good but I wound up getting one alright flush out of it. Hopefully you'll have the same luck!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: clan91]
#25348619 - 07/26/18 05:58 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I kind of am half way doing this Tek, I confused 2 teks I was reading up on and did two smaller tubs from my first test batch of jars and one bag.
Anyhow, as you can see I drilled holes, they are taped, I did the black bags to cover it, but it seems from what I'm reading here that I should just take the bags off, and let it finish colonizing?
As for AE, should I tyvek those holes when I'm around 80% colonized?
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Thor] 1
#25348636 - 07/26/18 06:04 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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for colonization I would go ahead and put it in "Fruiting conditions" if you want to do a traditional monotub with holes you can go ahead and follow the "fruiting conditions" part and stuff the top holes lightly or not at all and the bottom holes semi to very tightly. if you use my method just flip the lid and don't worry about moving it ajar or anything for your first grows. all the tubs I have skipped the colonization conditions on and instead immediately put into fruiting conditions have not only colonized faster but pinned faster. I chose to just now call it, growing conditions. and don't distinguish between colonization and fruiting of substrates, I chose to give it fresh air exchange from the point of spawning to bulk to the end of fruiting. Maybe some mushroom species do well starved of oxygen and put into high co2 concentrations on purpose, but for cubensis having fresh o2 in the fresh air at all stages past spawning seems to work for me very well.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Thor]
#25348640 - 07/26/18 06:06 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bag is outdated misinformation, micropore tape would work, but many (including myself) use unmodified tubs with the lids flipped for FAE, so just regular clear tape would suffice also... Fruiting conditions have been introduced at spawn with excellent results, deeming a "colonization period" optional really...
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#25348647 - 07/26/18 06:08 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, yeah!
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25348675 - 07/26/18 06:19 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: all the tubs I have skipped the colonization conditions on and instead immediately put into fruiting conditions have not only colonized faster but pinned faster. I chose to just now call it, growing conditions. and don't distinguish between colonization and fruiting of substrates, I chose to give it fresh air exchange from the point of spawning to bulk to the end of fruiting. Maybe some mushroom species do well starved of oxygen and put into high co2 concentrations on purpose, but for cubensis having fresh o2 in the fresh air at all stages past spawning seems to work for me very well.
I started to add some coir casings to my tubs because I was consistently getting surfaces that looked great up until right before pinning starts, and then they get a lot of matted area where the myc overgrows. I noticed that wherever there were little bits of coir still showing is where all the pins formed and areas where myc totally overtook all the coir is where it would mat and then not pin.
I'm starting to think its due to leaving the lids on snapped normal style for too long, and should have flipped lids right away instead. All my tubs seem to start performing better when more FAE is introduced, and I'm guessing the pinsets would have started forming just earlier enough to where the myc wouldn't have matted up as much...
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: pixelpopper]
#25348886 - 07/26/18 08:20 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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The top layer of coir doesn't dry out for you PP?
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: JHOVA]
#25348991 - 07/26/18 09:18 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Top layer is mostly consumed by the time pins show up
Only time I really see any coir drying is if I leave the lid off or extremely gapped for long periods.
With lid on, upside down or slightly cracked it doesn't dry out, but the myc does consume most of it by the time it would start to dry
Edited by pixelpopper (07/26/18 09:22 PM)
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: pixelpopper]
#25349855 - 07/27/18 07:19 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome, gonna keep it simple and keep the holes taped. For misting, do you guys mix a bit of chlorine with the water?
My humidity is about 60% in the tub, lots of moisture on the sides, the one thing I don't have btw is a strong light, the room they are in has strong ceiling halogens but again they are on the ceiling so not sure if that will be fine.
This is one of the few shops I can buy growing lights. They are ridiculously expensive though lol
https://innigardar.is/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=166
Perhaps this one?

These 2 test tubs are not perfect for this tek upside down the lids are not like yours so going to see if I can find something better for the real grows after these test batches (learning batches) are done and I get more comfortable.
Edited by Thor (07/27/18 07:37 AM)
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