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18g Atlantis sclerotica, fun Level 2
    #22337732 - 10/05/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, didn't realise how long this report would end up - hopefully it's worth reading for someone!

First trip report on here, this was about 6 months ago but I'm planning on tripping again soon and thought it's be good to type this up beforehand.

I'm 26, 85kg, have taken low dose shrooms in Holland twice before but only gave me level one trips. Used to smoke a fair bit of weed but gave up 2 years ago. No other psychedelic experience, and to be honest felt I was at a point in my life where I was past drug use (more down to practicality and learning about my addictive behaviour than any judgement of drug use itself). I'd been reading about the Johns Hopkins study on psylocybin and thoughts I'd give a higher dose a try. I'd researched it and wanted to aim for a level 4 type trip with some sort of spiritual significance. I should state I'm an agnostic atheist, and don't go in for mysticism personally, but the idea of self reflection and improvement appeals to me.

We ordered 15g Atlantis truffles each, supposedly a strong dose. I ate all mine in one go, he decided he didn't want the last 2-3 grams so I had those as well. Our setting was my living room, with some Xmas style lights hung on the opposite wall to the sofa and a rotating multicoloured disco ball light (neither of which were on at the start).

Coming up had the typical sweaty palms and very mild nausea, but it could have been the nervousness as much as the truffles themselves. My wife was going out for the evening but came in to say bye and chat for a bit, which was have I first noticed the effects - both her and my buddy looked elderly, but in a cartoonish way - grey hair and lots of wrinkles. The whole trip I was aware the visuals were caused by shrooms so I just found this pretty amusing.

For some reason I decided to sit on the floor opposite the sofa, and spent a good 10-20 mins staring at the carpet (plain green, in case you are wondering) - it seemed like there was a two dimensional swirling "mist" hovering just above it, almost transparent and more geometric/fractal in nature.

Sometime after that my wife left and we turned the main light off and the Xmas and disco ones on, and lay on the sofa just staring at the patterns. We were probably discussing something but can't recall what. My friend the  decided we should go for a smoke outside in the garden - mine is tiny and narrow, mostly patio with bushes either side.

The OEV's intensified in the dark - we were trying to describe how our trains of thought were becoming decoherent but kept giggling and going off on pretty nonsensical tangents. The more we tried to communicate it the harder it became and the more we giggled. I have a distinct memory if him trying to tell me something but becoming distracted by a visual of a pattern in the darkness. It looked like a band of carpet, of the patterned design I think of as Arabic and Middle Eastern, in red and yellow. As he was talking it seems to creep over his face, but again remained translucent. Staring up at the stars was probably my favourite - they seemed extra bright and moved/swirled together, as it they were spacecraft flying above us.

We went inside after a while as it was cold, and he want to the bathroom. I lay on the sofa and enjoyed some CEV's - green kaleidoscopic geometric patterns played across my eyelids. I was enjoying this to the extend I hoped he would take his time so I could enjoy this part for longer. When he came back we realised we had passed the peak - we sat back on the sofa and enjoyed the twinkling of the Xmas lights (highly recommend putting some up if you are tripping!). We also played Journey on the ps3 for about 20 mins before deciding it didn't suit the mood. Then we just caught up on how we had both been recently (we hadn't seen each other in several months). About 4 hours after dosing we ate pizza, and he left soon after.

Overall it was a fun trip but I couldn't help but feel disappointed at only having what felt like a level 2 experience. Considering I had taken 18g Atlantis - supposedly a high dose of a strong strain - I was expecting more. I also learned that tripping with a friend probably isn't the best setting - of all my mates he is definitely the best to trip with, but I can't help feel that attempting to communicate the experience detracted from it.

I've decided to try a solo dose in a few weeks now, and will try 30g Atlantic. I'll also try lemon tekking and making a tea from about 60g, then will either freeze the rest or take more an hour in if I still want more. A bit concerned about a loss of potency but I figured if I eat them fresh I won't have long between being able to gauge the trip strength and developing a tolerance. Plus with 60g available I can stand to lose a fair bit of psylocybin and still have a good time!


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Re: 18g Atlantis sclerotica, fun Level 2 [Re: Davethefaker]
    #22387540 - 10/16/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting report; I usually trip on sclerotia and I like to hear about experiences at different doses e.t.c.

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Considering I had taken 18g Atlantis - supposedly a high dose of a strong strain - I was expecting more.




It's quite difficult to judge sclerotia potency - commercially sold "Atlantis" is usually more potent than sclerotia branded as Mexicana or Tampanensis, but the actual potency depends a lot on the length of time they are cultivated for (older / more potent stones are often re-named as something else, e.g hollandia, to distinguish them....and increase the price).

If you get some geometric OEV, nonsensical thought patterns and some decent CEV, that's not too bad for 15g of generic commercial "atlantis".

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I also learned that tripping with a friend probably isn't the best setting - of all my mates he is definitely the best to trip with, but I can't help feel that attempting to communicate the experience detracted from it. I've decided to try a solo dose in a few weeks now, and will try 30g Atlantic.




If you want to focus on the trip itself without distractions, then a solo trip can be excellent. You are free to drift into the headspace of the trip without making conversation or worrying about how your friend's experience is going. Personally I like tripping indoors, solo, with a carefully selected music playlist on my headphones, and a "trip journal" (paper notepad) to write random stuff down.

As for 30g atlantis (or you mention 25g hollandia in another post) you should notice a definite increase in intensity. It all depends on the exact potency you get, but this kind of dose level is where trips start to become much more intense and interesting. Also bear in mind that the effects ratchet up very quickly as you increase the dosage; you might get giggles off 15g, a strong trip with 30g, and total oblivion via world war three at 45g....

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I'll also try lemon tekking and making a tea from about 60g, then will either freeze the rest or take more an hour in if I still want more. A bit concerned about a loss of potency but I figured if I eat them fresh I won't have long between being able to gauge the trip strength and developing a tolerance.




I don't have any experience with lemon tek, but I'd be a bit cautious about trying lemon tek and doubling the dose in the same trip, the resulting trip could be quite fierce.

As for increasing the dose after an hour.....personally I find that (based on eating fresh truffles) 90 minutes is usually the right time to do this - long enough to get a reasonable assessment of the intensity, but before the trip is peaking. I can really feel the intensity start to increase as the redose kicks in.....that feeling of going slightly insane as the scope of the trip deepens and the CEV become a sinister gateway of abstract geometry filled with hidden meanings. I've done quite a few trips with 15g sclerotia followed by a 15g redose: the results vary (due to potency) from solidly entertaining recreational trips, up to ferociously intense mindfucks.

If you were drinking tea, then presumably the onset would be quicker and it might make more sense to redose slightly earlier, maybe 60 minutes in (I'm not sure what redosing on tea feels like but I expect it would hit faster and harder than eating the sclerotia). People report very mixed results from redosing, its one of those things you figure out for yourself; most people don't recommend it at all, but I like to extend the length of the trip and take higher doses without being overwhelmed at the very beginning. I think it works better if the initial dose is enough by itself for at least a  medium-strength trip, and the re-dose is being used to boost the trip into something much stronger. Usually I split the dose 50/50 - if the initial half is enough by itself for a reasonable trip, taking the same again after 90 minutes will usually result in a very strong (and quite possibly frightening / unpleasant at some stages) trip.

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I'd been reading about the Johns Hopkins study on psylocybin and thoughts I'd give a higher dose a try. I'd researched it and wanted to aim for a level 4 type trip with some sort of spiritual significance. I should state I'm an agnostic atheist, and don't go in for mysticism personally, but the idea of self reflection and improvement appeals to me.




If you're planning on trying stronger doses, you might find your thought patterns shift towards magical thinking; the mystical and spiritual tend to creep into the trip when you don't expect it. Not only that, but you can slip into a delusional mindstate quite easily on higher doses, and before you know it you are speculating whether the CIA will be interested in your idea to convert a B2 bomber into a flying cinema....

Enjoy your next trip - trip with an open mind, don't underestimate the power of this stuff, and don't waste time trying to resist the trip. This is fairly typical but valid advice - a strong trip can feel oppressive during the onset, as though it threatens to take over your mind; it's natural to resist this, but in reality the elements of the trip that can feel threatening (or simply too intense) during the comeup, will change into something beautiful as the trip levels out and you adjust to it.

:feelsshroomyman:


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