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What do cops drug test for during ovi?
    #22337085 - 10/05/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Got an ovi charge about 2 months ago. Strict judge :/ first offense. I got into a fender bender and had lsd, valium and kratom in my system. Also thc from nightly smoking. This happened in the morning. I know I know... lsd was taken by mistake. Long story short, I took valium to calm myself enough to drive to work. Very stupid

Blah blah blah my main question is what kind of urine test do cops use at the station. I failed sobriety test so I was taken downtown to piss. I know they will find thc, but what about the valium and lsd? And how fucked can I be for driving on lsd and unprescribed valium. Again this is my first offense and I had a great lawyer, but I'm scared about jail time and my permanent record...


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22337093 - 10/05/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Most likely won't find the LSD. Almost definitely going to find the Valium though.

Probably won't get jail time. If you had seriously injured or killed someone, it'd be a lot more likely you'd spend time in jail. Will most likely get probation.


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22337279 - 10/05/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah they'll find benzos 100%. Even the 5 panel tests for that. LSD probably won't come up though. I take it you don't have a Valium RX?


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Magicman69]
    #22337597 - 10/05/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No prescription :/. So I will fail for thc and valium if they end up using the results. I have a great lawyer but I'm nervous I may have to serve jail time too. First offense though. What do you thonk? Ideally I want no ovi on my record and no jail time but will do anything else. But why are the chances I may get the permanent ovi on record and or jail time for my first offense? I also got into a tiny fender bender, which caused all of this to start and failed the sobriety test
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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22337672 - 10/05/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

First offense with a good lawyer (or any lawyer for that matter) I seriously doubt you will do any time.


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22337738 - 10/05/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Never heard of it called an OVI. Usually called DUI drug metabolites or DWI. Anyways I doubt you will do any time but that is if they don't find all 3. If they found out you were on acid, valium, and stoned driving that looks really bad. I know someone who got a dui on xanax and only spent that night in a substation holding cell and never did time just had a shit ton of fines to pay.

I'm guessing you might get drug testing as a diversion program or possibly lots of fines.

Where do you live?


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Gorlax]
    #22337959 - 10/05/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I know here in fl they send it to fdle and do a lab test. I'm almost 100% positive they won't detect lsd or test for it


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: highasfuk]
    #22338189 - 10/05/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I'm not worried much about the acid, but unprescribed valium and thc in my system is what worries me. Thosu urine results, plus failed sobriety test... I just really don't want this permanently on my record for a dui/ovi. I'm in ohio. If it's on my record, my educational and working career gets fucked. We're pleading not guilty since I was adjusting to new ibs meds I didn't even need. First offense. Got a job and no record so far except a couple speeding tickets... so if they do use the urine results, does that automatically result in a dui and therefore permanently on my record? And if I get jail time, I may get fired from my job too...

We're hoping they don't use the urine results. Then I csn just settle for failure to control. Fuck my traffic record at this point... Whatcha ya think?


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22338580 - 10/05/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Isn't using benzos that aren't prescribed to you make a bigger impact vs jist weed in my system?


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22338617 - 10/05/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Dude stop dwelling on it. If it's your first offense and no one was seriously injured, you're almost definitely not going to jail. a lot of people don't even go to jail their second time.

And no, in the courts eyes weed is just as bad as benzos (unless you live in a medical/recreational state, in states where weed is fully illegal, it's functionally the same). If you had meth or heroin or something, then there might be some validation to be worrying.

Are you white? Rest easy. :lol:


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22338817 - 10/05/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well the biggest obstacle you have right now is just the Valium. THC can be in your system from months prior and it's almost impossible to prove that you were actually driving while stoned. The only time people get weed DUI's which I have seen with 2 of my friends is if you get caught while smoking a blunt/joint.

Another thing that makes a huge impact is what you told the cops. I'm sure you said something incriminating and cops write everything they have heard down. Their job is to basically fuck you as hard as they can. If you were just on acid and high you probably would have just got booked for it and got away. The valium is like the poster board drug to be tested for when it comes to benzos. Most benzos are related to it.


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Gorlax]
    #22339932 - 10/06/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I feel like my lawyer could get me out of the thc bender, but the valium destroyed my balance test and I'm not prescribed. It's up in the air for how that one will impact me. Jail or not, as long as he can get this shit off my record..


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22339950 - 10/06/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How did you take LSD ,by mistake, in the morning, before work lmao?


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22340055 - 10/06/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Heisencybin said:
Got an ovi charge about 2 months ago. Strict judge :/ first offense. I got into a fender bender and had lsd, valium and kratom in my system. Also thc from nightly smoking. This happened in the morning. I know I know... lsd was taken by mistake. Long story short, I took valium to calm myself enough to drive to work. Very stupid

Blah blah blah my main question is what kind of urine test do cops use at the station. I failed sobriety test so I was taken downtown to piss. I know they will find thc, but what about the valium and lsd? And how fucked can I be for driving on lsd and unprescribed valium. Again this is my first offense and I had a great lawyer, but I'm scared about jail time and my permanent record...





It depends how they test it. Have you gotten your results back from the dui drug test? Earlier this year, I got a dui and they gave me a drug test because there was no alcohol. They ran it through an MS/GC. They found etizolam, which I was sure they wouldn't find. I had shrooms and kratom the night before too, but they didn't find either of those. It was a blood test though. But, the results said that specifically that I had etizolam in my system.

If they sent your sample off to the state lab, then they may find the lsd, depending how long it was since you took it and if they use an MS/GC. I'm not trying to scare you. I'm just telling you what happened to me. The state labs test for like 600 drugs or some shit.

Good luck OP. I hope you beat the system.


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22340166 - 10/06/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Damn I sure hope they don't use MSGC testing. I took the dose perhaps 6 hours prior to the piss test... why I did this?


Well I'm an idiot. Been suffering through chronic pain this year that I finally realized was sciatica related. Bad anxiety with the pain. Took a couple valium the night before to which I was new too. Woke up, pissed, ate a snack and went back to sleep. I didn't remember any of that but I guess I took 375ug of lsd while I was in the fridge... yeah fuck my life haha. Woke up a couple hours later feeling all funny and trying to get ready to work. Took a valium to calm my shit. Couldn't miss any more days due to pain issues throughout the year prior to this so I felt I was good enough to drive... almost made it too. Then I got into a fender bender on the exit ramp. Couldn't tell what I was on so they took me in for a urine test :/

I'm ready to accept responsibility,  but I've got a damn good lawyer, a very clean and hopeful past and future, but a kinda strict judge so I'm told. So we shall see. My next court date is Nov 24, which I believe I will be sitting in on this time...


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22340215 - 10/06/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They are most likely going to use GC/MS. If the initial screening comes up positive, then they use GC/MS to confirm a positive result. I'm not sure how often they send it off to be tested without a prior positive result, but that's pretty much the only way you're going to avoid having your sample put under a (metaphorical) microscope and have each drug specifically identified. Basic screening is just a way to cut costs and weed out those who don't need further scrutiny.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22340905 - 10/06/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Damn I sure hope they don't use MSGC testing. I took the dose perhaps 6 hours prior to the piss test... why I did this?


Well I'm an idiot. Been suffering through chronic pain this year that I finally realized was sciatica related. Bad anxiety with the pain. Took a couple valium the night before to which I was new too. Woke up, pissed, ate a snack and went back to sleep. I didn't remember any of that but I guess I took 375ug of lsd while I was in the fridge... yeah fuck my life haha. Woke up a couple hours later feeling all funny and trying to get ready to work. Took a valium to calm my shit. Couldn't miss any more days due to pain issues throughout the year prior to this so I felt I was good enough to drive... almost made it too. Then I got into a fender bender on the exit ramp. Couldn't tell what I was on so they took me in for a urine test :/

I'm ready to accept responsibility,  but I've got a damn good lawyer, a very clean and hopeful past and future, but a kinda strict judge so I'm told. So we shall see. My next court date is Nov 24, which I believe I will be sitting in on this time...





Sorry to hear that man. In my state, they send all dui samples to that state lab for GC/MS. I hope that is not the case for you. I doubt you'll go to jail though for a first time offense, regardless of what shows up on the test. The same thing happened to me. I was on my way to work and I got in a fender bender. Good luck man. This kind of shit sucks. I know what you're going through.


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22340946 - 10/06/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So my luck keeps running out. Talked to lawyer again. I've got a strict bitch judge who used to automatically give 30 days jail time to anyone with dui ovi convictions. Also, my urine results are going to GC/MS so it's quite possible they will find weed, valoum and lsd. Lawyer said she has loosened up her 30 day policy this past year, but fuck man. I can't afford 30 days in jail, lose my job and also have this on my record forever. I'll never get a decent job again. I love my job now.

Is there a way I could do the jail time and tell my job I need to visit Poland cuz my grandma died or so.ething? Then just keep delaying my visit through the 30 days and come back to work. Or will they find out somehow by random background checks? God damnit this sucks so much


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22340962 - 10/06/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

There's always a chance they'll find out somehow.

As for taking off for bereavement, it's generally only allowed for a few days.

If you absolutely have to go to jail, best thing you can probably do is talk to the highest person in charge of where you work, that is actually on site (don't go to corporate or something) and explain the situation and get them to let you come back to work when you get out. If you have vacation saved up, maybe talk about letting you use that to put towards the 30 days so you're not technically "out of work" for 30 days.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: What do cops drug test for during ovi? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22341001 - 10/06/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So you have a shit ton of valium for pain but you aren't prescribed valium?


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