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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22342020 - 10/06/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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putting irresponsible usage aside, some people do things a certain way and others do it another way. there's nothing to debate when it comes to matters of taste because there is no disagreement.
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: millzy]
#22342064 - 10/06/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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millzy said: putting irresponsible usage aside, some people do things a certain way and others do it another way. there's nothing to debate when it comes to matters of taste because there is no disagreement.
I don't know, I think there is something to be discussed here. Most effective way, most safe, most guaranteed for a good time, these things are objective in some ways I think. I totally understand that in the end people will do whatever they do, I don't have an issue with that. I just want to talk about it really.
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22342184 - 10/06/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: If I want good times, which usually I do to some degree, I want friends around. Not many. There are a small group of people I'm comfortable with in most any situation, and I can really be myself around. One of those guys went a bit psychotic though so... no more tripping with him for a while sadly. As for inside, I think, if I took a high dose, being inside would possibly be a good idea. If your visuals are intense the physical setting doesn't matter as much anyway. I haven't done much solo tripping, but I would like to. I see the benefit there of being more geared towards transcendental/exploratory trips and higher doses.
Alright so it seems like the indoor benefits for you is to be in a safe environment. Makes sense. I think one reason I've never felt safer inside then out was growing up working and playing pretty much exclusively outside in Alaska. In my mind I feel like it takes a smaller dose outside to get real far out, as I've always found nature trippy to begin with! I've taken medium doses literally 100 miles from the nearest man made structure, for me that made the medium dose all that more wild. I think to reach that mind space indoors in a super controlled environment would take a significantly larger dose, might try some day though. My major point I'm trying to get across is why take a larger dose in a less than ideal set/setting, if for nothing else than not being wasteful, when you can just put in a little more effort prior to make the set and setting perfect guaranteeing a good trip, which I really think can be just as profound on a smaller, and safer dose?
I prefer nature, but inside is often easier,especially if its in any way cold out. However, I find it much easier to relax and have a 'good' trip outside. for me its almost like houses accumulate emotions and are designed with human neurosis and hangups enmeshed in their structure and layout... so you can catch bad vibes off of them ya know?
For me inside is mostly a practical thing rather than a nice place to be, if I'm too messed up to trust my decision making around cliffs or water or anything
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22343683 - 10/07/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SaltyPeaks said: Really liking the insight you and other more experienced users are giving me, thanks!
I am coming from a completely different place then a lot of posters here is what I've concluded. I've always looked at psychs as a way to enhance my mental aptitude and improve myself, never as a lifestyle or entertainment even if I've been entertained well using them. My real concern is for people that become burn outs, fried, or mentally damaged in any way from either high doses, or bad trips. I don't want there to be fear mongering,but I do think it is irresponsible even for the heaviest users that have never had issues to condone levels of use that could lead to problems. Also as far as your dosing, 150ug-200ug is a good size dose in my book, but even of some weak blotter (50ug) that's only 4 hits. You ought to go check some trip reports, many people are taking 10 strips and going out to parties, so even if those are week blotter that's 500ug. That is more of the type of person I was referring to in my original post.
Any level of psych use can lead to problems, they are not safe for unsafe minds... that's all there is to it.
People who are eating 10 strips are obviously regular users and anyone who eats that many with 0 tolerance are either completely naive or plain old stupid. Darwinian theory in action.
Worry about yourself and your friends mate, people who worry about the world invariably get wet feet as the wind is blowing against them.
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: Northerner]
#22343743 - 10/07/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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OP, I may not disagree with some details of the post, but I definitely disagree with the entire premise of it.
Who the fuck are you to tell people how to do their drugs?
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: Northerner]
#22344160 - 10/07/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SaltyPeaks said: Really liking the insight you and other more experienced users are giving me, thanks!
I am coming from a completely different place then a lot of posters here is what I've concluded. I've always looked at psychs as a way to enhance my mental aptitude and improve myself, never as a lifestyle or entertainment even if I've been entertained well using them. My real concern is for people that become burn outs, fried, or mentally damaged in any way from either high doses, or bad trips. I don't want there to be fear mongering,but I do think it is irresponsible even for the heaviest users that have never had issues to condone levels of use that could lead to problems. Also as far as your dosing, 150ug-200ug is a good size dose in my book, but even of some weak blotter (50ug) that's only 4 hits. You ought to go check some trip reports, many people are taking 10 strips and going out to parties, so even if those are week blotter that's 500ug. That is more of the type of person I was referring to in my original post.
Any level of psych use can lead to problems, they are not safe for unsafe minds... that's all there is to it.
People who are eating 10 strips are obviously regular users and anyone who eats that many with 0 tolerance are either completely naive or plain old stupid. Darwinian theory in action.
Worry about yourself and your friends mate, people who worry about the world invariably get wet feet as the wind is blowing against them.
I agree that an unstable mind is liable for a bad experience at low doses, I stated that in the OP. And the people doing large doses aren't regulars, or of stable mind. One of the example reports I gave was of some chick who said she KNEW she had PTSD and still took like 5g drie cubes first time.
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: OP, I may not disagree with some details of the post, but I definitely disagree with the entire premise of it.
Who the fuck are you to tell people how to do their drugs?
Thank for the reply, but I think you're missing the point of the thread. The title does include "How to do drugs", I realize this sounds preachy, but then it also includes "How do YOU do them?" I wanted it to explain that, first I was going to give my opinion on the best way to do them and some of the problems I see when not done in this way. Then I wanted others to give their opinion so we could chat about it.
I really never had the intention posting this that any of the people I spoke about in the OP will ever read this thread. All I want is to discuss the topic, and maybe as a side effect of that some people would change their mind, I know I have.
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22344262 - 10/07/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes its nice to just stay home, with or without friends and just trip, listen to music, draw or whatever you want to.
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22344290 - 10/07/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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SaltyPeaks said: I agree that an unstable mind is liable for a bad experience at low doses, I stated that in the OP. And the people doing large doses aren't regulars, or of stable mind. One of the example reports I gave was of some chick who said she KNEW she had PTSD and still took like 5g drie cubes first time.
If it wasn't high doses of mushies she would have been huffing glue, smoking golf balls of crack or something equally as stupid.
I like that these people come on here and share their fucked up stories. It invariably makes me feel better about myself.
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: Northerner]
#22344759 - 10/07/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Northerner said: I like that these people come on here and share their fucked up stories. It invariably makes me feel better about myself. 
Haha, I have to agree with this!
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: Hanz]
#22345148 - 10/07/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You seem very down on tripping on your own, which I don't understand. My first drug experience was a trip back in 1973 that was on pink double dome LSD. After waiting hours with my friend and feeling nothing I gave up and went home only then to discover it was coming on after all. I left before my parents got to wondering and spent the rest of the evening outside in the woods by myself. It was awesome and from that time on I've felt more comfortable on my own than with other trippers. I find I can't relate to what they are feeling and saying and it is but a distraction to my own place in time and space. In addition the only bad trip I've ever had was caused by a buddy who decided he was too high and needed medical help. When you are as high as a kite try explaining to the hospital staff that you're just fine it's just your buddy who needs help, it dosen't work. As far as going outside well I like to let the trip take me where it wants to go. I like the outdoors better than in doors but all I'm saying is if you are happy where you are then all the more power to you. Finally when it comes to dosages and people who like to push it, been there and done that. In all things too much of a good thing and all, but it really is a personal decision how far you are willing to push any activity and pushing usually increases the danger but for some that is what they are looking for. I wouldn't fault them for that.
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: SaltyPeaks]
#22345326 - 10/07/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said: OP, I may not disagree with some details of the post, but I definitely disagree with the entire premise of it.
Who the fuck are you to tell people how to do their drugs?
Thank for the reply, but I think you're missing the point of the thread. The title does include "How to do drugs", I realize this sounds preachy, but then it also includes "How do YOU do them?" I wanted it to explain that, first I was going to give my opinion on the best way to do them and some of the problems I see when not done in this way. Then I wanted others to give their opinion so we could chat about it.
I really never had the intention posting this that any of the people I spoke about in the OP will ever read this thread. All I want is to discuss the topic, and maybe as a side effect of that some people would change their mind, I know I have.
My funnest times have been on small doses, inside. Does that take away from the fact that I've been taking mushrooms for eight years?
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My funnest times have been on small doses, inside. Does that take away from the fact that I've been taking mushrooms for eight years?
it means you're not a real shaman brah.
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: millzy] 1
#22346674 - 10/07/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My funnest times have been on small doses, inside. Does that take away from the fact that I've been taking mushrooms for eight years?
it means you're not a real shaman brah.

Gotta Grip N Sip fam
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Re: How to do drugs, how do YOU do them? [Re: millzy]
#22346874 - 10/07/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My funnest times have been on small doses, inside. Does that take away from the fact that I've been taking mushrooms for eight years?
it means you're not a real shaman brah.

Oh noez!
I guess I'll just have to take Mushrooms for fun . . . like some kind of savage.
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