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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #22336499 - 10/05/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

1% of citizens has 40% of the wealth.

And its the poorest peoples choice to be poor?

Where do you come up with this?


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22336506 - 10/05/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Except it is skin off your bones, in the form of public subsidization for impoverished people, in the form of economic disadvantages, education, etc.


Having a nation where 1/5 people are impovishered actually affects everybody.



If they choose to be impoverished, why should I care? Their shittiness may rub off on me a little bit but there's nothing I can do about it.




Because you are a decent human being who not only values his fellow man but also understands how a wealthy society benefits you directly?
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Full employment :shrug:



If you work two jobs and still have to be on foodstamps, maybe the system is fucking broken?



Yes, because everyone on foodstamps works two jobs.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Asante]
    #22336515 - 10/05/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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1% of citizens has 40% of the wealth.

And its the poorest peoples choice to be poor?

Where do you come up with this?



It's their choice to not be successful. Anyone who lives in America can be successful if they try. If you don't try hard enough, that's your own fault.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #22336516 - 10/05/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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its that fact that those ppl came from nothing never had nothing and never made nothing i mean what is poor? i mean most of you people are dirt poor and prob dont even realize it you know 1% but go head and walk around like ur the shit if it makes you feel better about urself.





this is very true, we all small fish in a little fish jar on the shelf, might be fish smaller then you but none of us are big fish.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #22336518 - 10/05/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yes, because everyone on foodstamps works two jobs.




No, but plenty do.
So?


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22336526 - 10/05/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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do you think someone that flips burgers should make as much as a emt or fire fighter?




No. But I do think a firefighter should make a pretty decent buck (Don´t know if they do in the US), as should nurses, mental health workers, cleaners, garbage men, gardeners, etcetera etcetera.



dewd theres no money in the buget to pay firefighters or teachers a decent buck. we needed to buy tanks guns n shit for police. most fire departments dont even require training. most of them are alcoholics and jus sit around half the time neway. come on dewd get real here paying firefighters would cost a FUCK LOAD :rolleyes:


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Webster10]
    #22336538 - 10/05/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Except it is skin off your bones, in the form of public subsidization for impoverished people, in the form of economic disadvantages, education, etc.


Having a nation where 1/5 people are impovishered actually affects everybody.



If they choose to be impoverished, why should I care? Their shittiness may rub off on me a little bit but there's nothing I can do about it.




You should care because, God forbid morality, that shittiness is taking money out of your pocket and dimming your nation's prosperity.

There is something you can do about it: Support policies which reduce the burdens of the working class by putting them (back) on the rich.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22336584 - 10/05/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

meh everyones gotta tighten the belt i mean this isnt the real world its a fantasy life that needs to be dismantled. Look at what were doing. feeding our kids shit food, not making education a priority, selling peoples lives out from under them, kids stuck paying off the debt of the the last generation,  everyone lookin for someone to bail em out, mass shootings, riots, debt ceilings media feeding the bullshit, everyones careless, governement taxing every cent but is an inept bloated bureaucratic blob. whats to be done :shrug2:


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22336585 - 10/05/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Except it is skin off your bones, in the form of public subsidization for impoverished people, in the form of economic disadvantages, education, etc.


Having a nation where 1/5 people are impovishered actually affects everybody.



If they choose to be impoverished, why should I care? Their shittiness may rub off on me a little bit but there's nothing I can do about it.




You should care because, God forbid morality, that shittiness is taking money out of your pocket and dimming your nation's prosperity.

There is something you can do about it: Support policies which reduce the burdens of the working class by putting them (back) on the rich.



What sort of policies has any candidate besides trump proposed that will do that? The bernout IMO wants to just steal from the rich and flat out give it to the poor in the form of government issued entitlements. Policies that would actually help (like a 0% income tax on the poor) are rejected by the left, yet they claim to be "for the poor."

I realize that the poor are a net drain on the country, but giving them free social programs paid for by the rich and middle class isn't the answer. Setting the poor up to empower themselves without social programs is the answer IMO.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Webster10]
    #22336623 - 10/05/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Except it is skin off your bones, in the form of public subsidization for impoverished people, in the form of economic disadvantages, education, etc.


Having a nation where 1/5 people are impovishered actually affects everybody.



If they choose to be impoverished, why should I care? Their shittiness may rub off on me a little bit but there's nothing I can do about it.




You should care because, God forbid morality, that shittiness is taking money out of your pocket and dimming your nation's prosperity.

There is something you can do about it: Support policies which reduce the burdens of the working class by putting them (back) on the rich.



What sort of policies has any candidate besides trump proposed that will do that? The bernout IMO wants to just steal from the rich and flat out give it to the poor in the form of government issued entitlements. Policies that would actually help (like a 0% income tax on the poor) are rejected by the left, yet they claim to be "for the poor."

I realize that the poor are a net drain on the country, but giving them free social programs paid for by the rich and middle class isn't the answer. Setting the poor up to empower themselves without social programs is the answer IMO.




The unskilled/uneducated workers had very strong employment opportunities in the past, that isn't the case today.

It would be nice to walk into Cleveland, Baltimore, or a 100 different cities across the US and say to the unemployed people, "go walk down the street and look at the "help wanted" sign outside of XYZ corporation" and you can start work tomorrow!!    There was a time in America when that was the case.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Webster10]
    #22336636 - 10/05/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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1% of citizens has 40% of the wealth.

And its the poorest peoples choice to be poor?

Where do you come up with this?



It's their choice to not be successful. Anyone who lives in America can be successful if they try. If you don't try hard enough, that's your own fault.





fuck yea  :knowwhatnevermind:


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: qman]
    #22336638 - 10/05/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Kick out the illegals and we'll return to the past :shrug: not that difficult.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: qman] * 1
    #22336665 - 10/05/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:

The unskilled/uneducated workers had very strong employment opportunities in the past, that isn't the case today.

It would be nice to walk into Cleveland, Baltimore, or a 100 different cities across the US and say to the unemployed people, "go walk down the street and look at the "help wanted" sign outside of XYZ corporation" and you can start work tomorrow!!    There was a time in America when that was the case.



you could its called mcdonalds an walmart they will get hired instantly even with thier long gap in employment and dodgy work history! dont worry theyll get paid a liveable wage and will have job security and totally get raises and promotions on merit. all those droves on droves of unemployed people are just losers with no motivation dewd come on join us in the real word here :cookiemonster:


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Webster10]
    #22336667 - 10/05/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kick out the illegals and we'll return to the past :shrug: not that difficult.




But Koods said we will starve to death because fruit might go up in price. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Webster10]
    #22336689 - 10/05/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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A deal was reached on the TPP. The poor man's messiah, Obama, just sold out the american worker in favor of the 1%. It's not just Republicans that pander to big money.




It hasn't been approved by congress or any other of the 12 countries involved.

Then again, from canada, I'm totally biased because we are an exporting nation and the TPP is amazing for us


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: qman]
    #22336692 - 10/05/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Meanwhile, gold is down, palladium is "OK", silver is +/- $1-1.50 US.

Let's see how interesting this gets.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22336706 - 10/05/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Webster10 said:
A deal was reached on the TPP. The poor man's messiah, Obama, just sold out the american worker in favor of the 1%. It's not just Republicans that pander to big money.




It hasn't been approved by congress or any other of the 12 countries involved.

Then again, from canada, I'm totally biased because we are an exporting nation and the TPP is amazing for us




It's not good for any developed nation, mixing with third world slave labor economies is big trouble.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: qman]
    #22336712 - 10/05/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Kick out the illegals and we'll return to the past :shrug: not that difficult.




But Koods said we will starve to death because fruit might go up in price. :cookiemonster:



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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Patlal]
    #22336716 - 10/05/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Webster10 said:
A deal was reached on the TPP. The poor man's messiah, Obama, just sold out the american worker in favor of the 1%. It's not just Republicans that pander to big money.




It hasn't been approved by congress or any other of the 12 countries involved.

Then again, from canada, I'm totally biased because we are an exporting nation and the TPP is amazing for us



It's good for the top 1% of canadians, bad for everyone else.


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Re: Well, the US economy just went to shit. [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #22336724 - 10/05/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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Webster10 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Except it is skin off your bones, in the form of public subsidization for impoverished people, in the form of economic disadvantages, education, etc.


Having a nation where 1/5 people are impovishered actually affects everybody.



If they choose to be impoverished, why should I care? Their shittiness may rub off on me a little bit but there's nothing I can do about it.




You should care because, God forbid morality, that shittiness is taking money out of your pocket and dimming your nation's prosperity.

There is something you can do about it: Support policies which reduce the burdens of the working class by putting them (back) on the rich.



What sort of policies has any candidate besides trump proposed that will do that? The bernout IMO wants to just steal from the rich and flat out give it to the poor in the form of government issued entitlements. Policies that would actually help (like a 0% income tax on the poor) are rejected by the left, yet they claim to be "for the poor."

I realize that the poor are a net drain on the country, but giving them free social programs paid for by the rich and middle class isn't the answer. Setting the poor up to empower themselves without social programs is the answer IMO.




Raising the minimum wage.
Subsidized community college.
Single layer healthcare.
Reformed criminal justice system.


Bernie isn't how here trying to treat symptoms, he's trying to cure the disease.


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