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The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets 5
#22334160 - 10/04/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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...while the average American family pays $6,000 a year towards corporate welfare.
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In 2012, the average American taxpayer making $50,000 per year paid just $36 towards the food stamps program. That’s just ten cents a day! That’s less than the cost of a gumball.
When it comes to funding the rest of America’s social safety net programs, the average American taxpayer making $50,000 a year pays just over six dollars a year.
But the American taxpayer is paying a lot for the billions of dollars the U.S. government gives to corporate America each year. The average American family pays a staggering $6,000 a year in subsidies to big business.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante] 1
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everyone needs their own business and they need to incorporate and sell sell sell or die!!1
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: akira_akuma]
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Lets just blame it on the poorest people and give even more taxbreaks and handouts to shitty companies like wal-mart.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Lets just blame it on the poorest people and give even more taxbreaks and handouts to shitty companies like wal-mart.
it's the poor people's fault for not wanting to get in on the money making going on, we need to keep hammering the steel and keep up our defence infrastructure, the injins might gets us if we don't.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: akira_akuma] 7
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The average American family pays $15,000 a year for health insurance. Just demonstrates how stupid the average American is. We would rather demonize poor people and save $42, while we hand over tens of thousands of dollars instead of having a sensible but socialist healthcare system.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: koods] 2
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The Kansas governor tanked the states budget surplus after cutting taxes for the wealthy, then decided to save money by making sure poor people on welfare didn't see movies. This is the mentality of most people in this country. Fucking retards.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: koods] 1
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: koods]
#22334306 - 10/04/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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but remember when we were fighting socialism? NEVER LET IT GO!!!!
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Achillita]
#22334307 - 10/04/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The people who need money should make better decisions to get money like corporations do.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: D.M.T]
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i know right! just make your business, and spend your life tending to it and then have it bought out if it gets big and you can then proceed to sit on your ass for the rest of your life, OR, STRUGGLE indefinitely!
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: koods]
#22334319 - 10/04/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: The Kansas governor tanked the states budget surplus after cutting taxes for the wealthy, then decided to save money by making sure poor people on welfare didn't see movies. This is the mentality of most people in this country. Fucking retards.
The devil finds work for idle hands, and if your poor you are probably lazy, so to hell with the poor. Something like that maybe?
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: koods]
#22334327 - 10/04/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread
There are federal instance where it's a great idea and I support that idea but red tape and the money spent on institutions and not the actual act just so much waste and fucker going on with the ruling class in America.
While many of you we disagree on lots of things . But I think putting that money directly to the people who need it the most and cover / have better mental health issues.
I love this country and I love the people who make it up. I just hate those bastardy in DC and other shit show self e Serving polarizing asshat.
Well I'm not including koods in that unless it will make him ruffie like he did to poor innocent sheekle
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: trekie]
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante] 1
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Yes the average American voter is very stupid. I can't believe people still swallow this BS about blaming the poor for our economic problems while shoving money hand over fist to the military and offering tax loopholes for large corporations.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: nicechrisman]
#22335023 - 10/04/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the best part is that money is spent so the corporations don't over pruduce and monopolize the market
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante] 1
#22335053 - 10/04/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: ...while the average American family pays $6,000 a year towards corporate welfare.
you mean like that time Obama gave a bunch of union contrats to do shit that never got done, or maybe you mean that time he gave half a billion to his buddies at Solyndra, maybe it's that time he gave billions to his friends at another green energy company or that time he gave billions more to companies moving to china and mexico
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Konyap]
#22335064 - 10/04/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Konyap said: the best part is that money is spent so the corporations don't over pruduce and monopolize the market
you have no idea what you're talking about do you
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22335082 - 10/04/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Asante said: ...while the average American family pays $6,000 a year towards corporate welfare.
you mean like that time Obama gave a bunch of union contrats to do shit that never got done, or maybe you mean that time he gave half a billion to his buddies at Solyndra, maybe it's that time he gave billions to his friends at another green energy company or that time he gave billions more to companies moving to china and mexico
You know as a vet and a long time american(many many generation) this true statement makes me upset.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: trekie]
#22335095 - 10/04/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the government is a business, really, who woulda thunk it?
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: trekie]
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trekie said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Asante said: ...while the average American family pays $6,000 a year towards corporate welfare.
you mean like that time Obama gave a bunch of union contrats to do shit that never got done, or maybe you mean that time he gave half a billion to his buddies at Solyndra, maybe it's that time he gave billions to his friends at another green energy company or that time he gave billions more to companies moving to china and mexico
You know as a vet and a long time american(many many generation) this true statement makes me upset. 
the more true statements, Solyndra went out of business 2 years after recieving half a billion, yes, $500 million dollars pumped into a company to create green energy jobs and they just closed the doors 2 years after getting it
not to mention the foreign welfare such as the money going to the drug producing countries to stop the flow of drugs into the US...
take the money and run...
why hasnt anyone from all these companies been prosecuted, why hasnt obama repaid these bad debts
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: akira_akuma]
#22335133 - 10/04/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the government is a business, really, who woulda thunk it?
businesses dont continue to run if they lose money every single year, they have to make a profit or they fail... how the fuck is the government a business?
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22335158 - 10/04/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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politicians tie themselves to businesses.
i guess it's not a business in the sense of making profits, but it is in "the business" of making politicians money. why else would they're be politicians?
case in point: they aren't a business in the traditional sense, but politicians have ties with businesses, so that they can make policy decisions based on making profits for businesses that'll provide for a politician's bank account.
but i could be wrong, i dunno, i've never been in politics. it's all just a rash assumption, as far as my knowledge goes in this area. perhaps you could correct me in any details that need ironing out, or inform me where i am dead wrong.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: akira_akuma]
#22335206 - 10/04/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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giving us the business isnt the same as being a business
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22335227 - 10/04/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It does not compute for you that I'm not an Obama supporter, does it? Hes a shill of the true powers that be, big money, just like Bush.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said: giving us the business isnt the same as being a business
no, it isn't. what is being a politician to you, Prisoner? is that not a business? then what is it?
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Konyap said: the best part is that money is spent so the corporations don't over pruduce and monopolize the market
you have no idea what you're talking about do you
oil and agriculture subsidies at the very least
check please!
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Konyap] 1
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See? Both far right authoritarian. I'm a social democrat (libertarian left, almost to the point of anarchism). I'm the opposite of them.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
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Gary Johnson 4 life.....
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: trekie]
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trump said he's going to quit if he goes down in the polls, ive lost all hope that trump might be prez now
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: makaveli8x8]
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LOL, "i love my country but it needs to become great again, and i'll make it great again...but only if you guys worship me and never let me go down in the polls, otherwise, to hell with America"
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: akira_akuma]
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Wow 50k a year? And thats the average? I don't even make 20k a year...
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
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Zappa pays my portion and I appreciate that. Thanks!
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Funny how people lament that the poor are robbing them blind, and its nickels and dimes, and the corporations they praise and worship are goring their wallet completely at 100x as much.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: Funny how people lament that the poor are robbing them blind, and its nickels and dimes, and the corporations they praise and worship are goring their wallet completely at 100x as much.
But they look nice and talk a good jib so we should respect them! I have to hop off the sob train this morning haha
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Shortknight]
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Asante said: Funny how people lament that the poor are robbing them blind, and its nickels and dimes, and the corporations they praise and worship are goring their wallet completely.
I went to Walmart the other day and bought a ton of quality shit for very cheap. What has the poor ever done for me 
Also for the record I'm opposed to welfare of any kind, whether it be for the lazy poor or for huge corporations.
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I went to Walmart the other day and bought a ton of quality shit for very cheap. What has the poor ever done for me 
Staffed your Walmart?
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Asante said: Funny how people lament that the poor are robbing them blind, and its nickels and dimes, and the corporations they praise and worship are goring their wallet completely.
I went to Walmart the other day and bought a ton of quality shit for very cheap. What has the poor ever done for me 
Also for the record I'm opposed to welfare of any kind, whether it be for the lazy poor or for huge corporations.
Always remember how fortunate you were, where you grew up and how, not so many were as lucky! Though im just assuming here.
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And don't forget how that Walmart is loving that TPP right about now.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
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I went to Walmart the other day and bought a ton of quality shit for very cheap. What has the poor ever done for me 
Staffed your Walmart?
Full time minimum wage puts people above the poverty line
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Yeah man $9 an hour is where the riches are at.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
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Not it isn't. That's a shitty wage paid to shitty workers. Still puts you above the poverty line though.
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Its a shitty wage paid by shitty employers.
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That's misleading. It's a lot better than the shitty wages corporations pay to illegals.
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I don't know how many times I can make this point, but it's at least once more:
As an American, you have to choose one of the following:
A) A nation where employers pay a liveable wage
Or
B) a nation with a strong social safety net program to bridge the gap that employers leave between their employees and economic sustainability
We can either raise the minimum wage to stop subsidizing people, or fork up our own money to make up the difference. Lots of people here seem to want neither and that's just not an option at this point, what with globalism et al.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Webster10]
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I wrote a check to the IRS for $20K last year in taxes for being self employed, single male, with no kids. Our tax code is complete bullshit and rips off the real middle class. I don't give two shits about social programs until 90% of my taxes aren't going to paying off the national debt via the income tax. $36 contributed to food stamps while ignoring how much of our gross income goes to paying out entitlement programs and pork barrel spending programs. Things are rarely as simple as they seem and socialism is no different folks.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: I don't know how many times I can make this point, but it's at least once more:
As an American, you have to choose one of the following:
A) A nation where employers pay a liveable wage
Or
B) a nation with a strong social safety net program to bridge the gap that employers leave between their employees and economic sustainability
We can either raise the minimum wage to stop subsidizing people, or fork up our own money to make up the difference. Lots of people here seem to want neither and that's just not an option at this point, what with globalism et al.
OR you can stop subsidizing large corporations, pay the same wages that are being paid and let the 1% take the pay cut.
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And yet another person who doesn't know what socialism is.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Webster10] 1
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The Ecstatic said: I don't know how many times I can make this point, but it's at least once more:
As an American, you have to choose one of the following:
A) A nation where employers pay a liveable wage
Or
B) a nation with a strong social safety net program to bridge the gap that employers leave between their employees and economic sustainability
We can either raise the minimum wage to stop subsidizing people, or fork up our own money to make up the difference. Lots of people here seem to want neither and that's just not an option at this point, what with globalism et al.
OR you can stop subsidizing large corporations, pay the same wages that are being paid and let the 1% take the pay cut.
Agreed, that starts with effectively taxing them, and cutting off their subsidization. But that in itself starts with campaign finance reform.
And who's the only candidate not a billionaire or being funded by billionaires? Sanders.
Whether you like his policies or not, you have to agree that even if in his lone term he managed to reform campaign finance, his presidency would be a win for Americans.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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It absolutely would be What discludes a billionaire from being capable of doing that? The only ones who are incapable IMO are those supported by billionaires. They have to return the favor once elected. A self-funded billionaire wouldn't
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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You are just making rhetorical statements without any real meaning. I know very well what socialism is, but thanks for telling me what it isn't but failing to explain what it actually is. Good job dude.
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Webster10 said: It absolutely would be What discludes a billionaire from being capable of doing that? The only ones who are incapable IMO are those supported by billionaires. They have to return the favor once elected. A self-funded billionaire wouldn't 
Just because someone else isn't pulling Trump's strings doesn't mean he has different goals than any other billionaire. But I will agree that his perceived independence is a draw for voters, as is apparent with the polls.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: I don't know how many times I can make this point, but it's at least once more:
As an American, you have to choose one of the following:
A) A nation where employers pay a liveable wage
Or
B) a nation with a strong social safety net program to bridge the gap that employers leave between their employees and economic sustainability
We can either raise the minimum wage to stop subsidizing people, or fork up our own money to make up the difference. Lots of people here seem to want neither and that's just not an option at this point, what with globalism et al.

This doesn't make any sense.
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Just because someone else isn't pulling Trump's strings doesn't mean he has different goals than any other billionaire. But I will agree that his perceived independence is a draw for voters, as is apparent with the polls.
But why would he stray from his normal business ventures to focus on a campaign if money was his goal?
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As an American, you have to choose one of the following:
A) A nation where employers pay a liveable wage
Or
B) a nation with a strong social safety net program to bridge the gap that employers leave between their employees and economic sustainability
We can either raise the minimum wage to stop subsidizing people, or fork up our own money to make up the difference. Lots of people here seem to want neither and that's just not an option at this point, what with globalism et al.

This doesn't make any sense.
Try reading slower, or voice your confusion in a manner other than a thumbnail of a cartoon character.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Konyap]
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you have no idea what you're talking about do you
oil and agriculture subsidies at the very least
check please!
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Just because someone else isn't pulling Trump's strings doesn't mean he has different goals than any other billionaire. But I will agree that his perceived independence is a draw for voters, as is apparent with the polls.
But why would he stray from his normal business ventures to focus on a campaign if money was his goal?
Same reason that other billionaires invest time and money in politics: it's fruitful for them.
Call me skeptical, but I don't see the billionaire wanting to change the rules of the game that he's won multiple times over.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Sun King]
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Sun King said: If they could get better jobs, they would. That's what my old boss used to say. 
Exactly. They are poor decision makers. That's their fault, not society.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Just because someone else isn't pulling Trump's strings doesn't mean he has different goals than any other billionaire. But I will agree that his perceived independence is a draw for voters, as is apparent with the polls.
But why would he stray from his normal business ventures to focus on a campaign if money was his goal?
Same reason that other billionaires invest time and money in politics: it's fruitful for them.
Call me skeptical, but I don't see the billionaire wanting to change the rules of the game that he's won multiple times over.
Trump is never going to end up broke, so it's not about enriching himself through his proposed policies.
Creating a more robust economy would help everyone, maybe even his own investments, that's not a bad thing.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Just because someone else isn't pulling Trump's strings doesn't mean he has different goals than any other billionaire. But I will agree that his perceived independence is a draw for voters, as is apparent with the polls.
But why would he stray from his normal business ventures to focus on a campaign if money was his goal?
Same reason that other billionaires invest time and money in politics: it's fruitful for them.
Call me skeptical, but I don't see the billionaire wanting to change the rules of the game that he's won multiple times over.
so making an extra $300k is fruitful for a billionaire?
doesnt this hold true for millionaires only for them the 'fruits' are more readily apparent ?
why elect someone with milllions?
why dont we elect someone that's homeless instead of people with money
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: qman] 2
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The Koch Brothers aren't going to go broke either, yet they're dumping $1 billion into this election cycle for some reason.
Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they have no reason to be corrupt or even ambitious.
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@pris idk what point you're trying to make.
There's a grand canyon worth of space between not electing a self serving billionaire and electing a homeless person.
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The Ecstatic said: The Koch Brothers aren't going to go broke either, yet they're dumping $1 billion into this election cycle for some reason.
Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they have no reason to be corrupt or even ambitious.
Well, Trump is a self admitted political manipulator by using his money, to me that's a good thing, He's telling us the problem with the political system.
Trump can't be bought off, Trump can say anything he wants, I call that very refreshing in today's world.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: The Koch Brothers aren't going to go broke either, yet they're dumping $1 billion into this election cycle for some reason.
Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they have no reason to be corrupt or even ambitious.
The Koch Brothers The Koch Brothers The Koch Brothers
somehow no one noticed that obama had warren buffet, Oprah Winfrey and a number of other billionaires dumping money into his campaign, they also seem to support many other democrats. why isnt this a problem when it's dems on the dole?
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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is political office only beneficial to the extremely wealthy?
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The Ecstatic said: The Koch Brothers aren't going to go broke either, yet they're dumping $1 billion into this election cycle for some reason.
Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they have no reason to be corrupt or even ambitious.
Well, Trump is a self admitted political manipulator by using his money, to me that's a good thing, He's telling us the problem with the political system.
Trump can't be bought off, Trump can say anything he wants, I call that very refreshing in today's world.
It's refreshing but that doesn't mean he's being honest. People can lie without being paid to do so.
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is political office only beneficial to the extremely wealthy?
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Sun King said: If they could get better jobs, they would. That's what my old boss used to say. 
Exactly. They are poor decision makers. That's their fault, not society.
So everybody should be a wallstreet stock broker or some shit?
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Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they have no reason to be corrupt or even ambitious.
The Koch Brothers The Koch Brothers The Koch Brothers
somehow no one noticed that obama had warren buffet, Oprah Winfrey and a number of other billionaires dumping money into his campaign, they also seem to support many other democrats. why isnt this a problem when it's dems on the dole?
It is, if you've been paying attention you'll have noticed that everyone has acknowledged Obama rode corporate money into the White House.
The Kochs are simply an example.
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Relevant.
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Hahaha yup!
Satan Herself, that's me!
Eternally torturing the souls of the damned and spreading truth!

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arent those off set by redic corprate taxes? im skeptical of all those numbers.
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plus like we should prob pay for corperate subsidies so u no we can have jobs to make money to tax. some of those programs are actually really benificial n stuff.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I went to Walmart the other day and bought a ton of quality shit for very cheap. What has the poor ever done for me 
Staffed your Walmart?
Full time minimum wage puts people above the poverty line 
Working full time for 12 months I made just over 18k a year at 12bucks so yeah, wasn't moving out of my parents house into a much smaller room that I could never fit my stuff into..
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you have no idea what you're talking about do you
oil and agriculture subsidies at the very least
check please!
what oil subsidies?
America has always had ton's of oil and gas it's just that after we pumped texas out, they moved operations to the middle east now isis pumps our gas it's the equivalent of outsourcing and the gov't isn't going to stop it because they want back up resources for wartime nartural gas is different because there aren't any rules to it just dump some toxic shit in the ground and suck up fart gas
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I find it kind of funny that people rage about about welfare moms and food stamps but never say a word about the bank bailouts. Wall street bankers are using your tax dollars to snort coke off a hookers ass, and that's just fine. But a single mom on welfare? Let her kids fucking starve. People who hate the poor are generally stupid. They are riled up by politicians taking about non issues so trillion dollar bailouts never come up. People need to stop being used like this. You hate the poor because you were told to. Useful idiots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
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Just wanted to drop in and thank all the tax payers for My foodstamps Which is at the maximum amount allowed.
Feels nourishing mannn
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
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is political office only beneficial to the extremely wealthy?
No, but that's a non sequitur.
to the contrary, it's exactly the point
anyone in that position can use it for personal gain and many do, just as pelosi and boener were caught for insider trading and werent prosecutable for the crime, just as hillary has used the position to further her career and her wealth, just as bill has done, just as bush has done and just as obama is doing
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Konyap]
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Prisoner#1 said: what oil subsidies?
America has always had ton's of oil and gas it's just that after we pumped texas out, they moved operations to the middle east now isis pumps our gas it's the equivalent of outsourcing and the gov't isn't going to stop it because they want back up resources for wartime nartural gas is different because there aren't any rules to it just dump some toxic shit in the ground and suck up fart gas
no, a kid named Jimmy pumps my gas, I give him a $2 tip because he cleans my windshield and checks my oil too, and he's pretty nice. him and becky sue are gonna get married one day
you just said a whole bunch of shit that you are obviously clueless about
what oil subsidies?
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Are u in nj?
employees still pump gas for ppl?
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: my3rdeye]
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my3rdeye said: I find it kind of funny that people rage about about welfare moms and food stamps but never say a word about the bank bailouts.
really? what do you think the tea party was started over
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22339331 - 10/06/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's a good thing I'm not your average american
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Uzziel]
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Will these stamps help me make a pen pal?
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my3rdeye said: I find it kind of funny that people rage about about welfare moms and food stamps but never say a word about the bank bailouts.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22340522 - 10/06/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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federal reserve owns that ass
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: shroominated]
#22340538 - 10/06/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i mean u know what i was thinking the other day like history lit keeps repeating itself and people are to stupid to realize. everythings different but nothings changed.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22340554 - 10/06/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
#22341026 - 10/06/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The source is an opinion piece which I do not trust. The numbers therefore can be considered made up. It would be good to start with real figures that can be verified.
However, there is a problem with big money writing the laws and our whore congress people doing as they are told by big shots. My solution as always is to simply do away with legal bribery. Then no more stupid laws get written and the bad ones get tossed out.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Stonehenge]
#22341122 - 10/06/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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stop eating so much fatty American
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Stonehenge]
#22341142 - 10/06/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: The source is an opinion piece which I do not trust. The numbers therefore can be considered made up. It would be good to start with real figures that can be verified.
However, there is a problem with big money writing the laws and our whore congress people doing as they are told by big shots. My solution as always is to simply do away with legal bribery. Then no more stupid laws get written and the bad ones get tossed out.
only problem is congress is above the law, look at all the illegal shit people get caught for, they go talk infront of some fancy judge at a hearing before congress or w/e. They talk, leave, nothing ever happens.
so legal, or not legal, its blatently obvious the gov is corrupted beyond repair.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Webster10]
#22341145 - 10/06/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your avatar needs a christmas hat
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
#22341292 - 10/06/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What are individuals paying in social healthcare countries?
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#22341328 - 10/06/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ask a Canadian or a Briton. The minions of Darkness conservatives have sold out our healthcare system in Holland and it no longer is a just system.
This German cartoon illustrates:

It says "equal under the law vs equal justice - do not confuse these two"
In Holland we had a system that was like the right image and now its made to be more like the left image.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
#22341344 - 10/06/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your german must be good, dutch is very similar to german so its easy for you guys. I have to work at it.
Obviously you want extra handouts for special people. The mean old conservatives won't let it happen. Its great if you are getting the handouts, not so great if you are paying for it and not getting anything.
In the drawings, the kids are sneaking into the ballgame without paying. A typical liberal fantasy, lol.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Stonehenge]
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Obviously you want extra handouts for special people.
Let me translate that in human: I believe that people most in need of assistance should get most assistance. Thats the whole point of a healthcare system, to facilitate healthcare for those who cannot afford it.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Stonehenge]
#22341363 - 10/06/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Apparently, Germans spend only ~$1,300 per year on public health insurance and the French spend about $3,300 annually per individual. Both countries also offer private options. Seems we pay at least double the cost for "freedom of choice" and "personal responsibility."
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#22341392 - 10/06/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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we pay double because we have the largest government and military
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yeh france and germany are like not even states theyre puny compared to the amount of super sick people we have here that generally get the best care in the world. plus we like pay for everyone elses shit by spending so much its how it works its hard to deny the USA makes the world turn.
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Re: The average American pays $36/year towards food stamps and $6/year towards other social safety nets [Re: Asante]
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>I believe that people most in need of assistance should get most assistance. Thats the whole point of a healthcare system, to facilitate healthcare for those who cannot afford it.
Yes, but you aren't just talking about healthcare are you? You want that idea spread everywhere "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" Our system just got worse with obumbles fumbling around. That's what happens when you put an amateur in charge and let him do whatever he wants.
Those kids in your drawing were watching the game for free, everyone else had to pay. Your solution is for them to have boxes to stand on so they can steal more easily. If everyone steals or gets stuff free, who pays for it? There would be no game, no players and no ballpark if no one paid for it.
PT > Seems we pay at least double the cost for "freedom of choice" and "personal responsibility."
It all goes back to bribery, they pay off the govt to look the other way while they rape us. Chemical companies are allowed to put all sorts of garbage in the food supply, insurance is a ripoff, its a big mess. If we ever got someone honest in the whitehouse it might change. Go trump go!
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