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Invisiblebadchad
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Re: Can we all agree [Re: Webster10]
    #22350207 - 10/08/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My thoughts:

The vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the 1%.

By definition, if this was redistributed (via communism), life would improve for the 99%. Once they realize this, it'll make perfect sense.


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: badchad]
    #22350482 - 10/08/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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badchad said:
My thoughts:

The vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the 1%.

By definition, if this was redistributed (via communism), life would improve for the 99%. Once they realize this, it'll make perfect sense.




Their life will improve once they realize they can create their OWN wealth, tough though will politicians and demagogues running around yapping about how the rich got rich by "stealing" from the poor

***insert slogan here


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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Can we all agree [Re: badchad]
    #22350724 - 10/08/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

badchad said:
My thoughts:

The vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the 1%.

By definition, if this was redistributed (via communism), life would improve for the 99%. Once they realize this, it'll make perfect sense.




Exactly.

But some of our resident economic geniuses think if everyone works hard enough, we can all be hedge fund managers, CEOs, and Facebook inventors.


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22350830 - 10/08/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

badchad said:
My thoughts:

The vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the 1%.

By definition, if this was redistributed (via communism), life would improve for the 99%. Once they realize this, it'll make perfect sense.




Exactly.

But some of our resident economic geniuses think if everyone works hard enough, we can all be hedge fund managers, CEOs, and Facebook inventors.




^No wonder why we have ditch diggers and burger flippers.


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22353589 - 10/09/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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badchad said:
My thoughts:

The vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the 1%.

By definition, if this was redistributed (via communism), life would improve for the 99%. Once they realize this, it'll make perfect sense.




Exactly.

But some of our resident economic geniuses think if everyone works hard enough, we can all be hedge fund managers, CEOs, and Facebook inventors.




^No wonder why we have ditch diggers and burger flippers.





We have ditch diggers and burger flippers because our society demands that ditches be dug and burgers be flipped.

This is where conservative myopia sets in. Entire industries and sectors of our economy exist because they need to exist, not because there are some stupid people out there who fall into them. If everyone followed your advice, we'd pollute our way into extinction, because there'd be no teachers or janitors or trashmen, etc.


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22353612 - 10/09/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No shame in flipping burgers.  I've worked in a lot of restaurants.  Sometimes I was paid well and sometimes I was desperate and was paid shit.  My work reflected how well I was paid.

Believe it or not if we treat burger flippers and ditch diggers as human beings instead of the dredges of society they'll do a better job!

Also I want to reply to HU's dumb fucking meme.

Republicans collect welfare too!  In fact, more than Democrats!





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Re: Can we all agree [Re: paperbackwriter] * 1
    #22355072 - 10/09/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Okay then, republicans collect more welfare, we are demonized, but when republicans call for welfare reform, we are demonized, personally I don't care what you "think" your ideology is, what state you live in, or how you vote, if you abuse the system, I want your benefits cut off...


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22355091 - 10/09/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Okay then, republicans collect more welfare, we are demonized, but when republicans call for welfare reform, we are demonized, personally I don't care what you "think" your ideology is, what state you live in, or how you vote, if you abuse the system, I want your benefits cut off...




Then why pretend Obama supporters are all welfare queens if you can recognize that abuse crosses party and even ideological boundaries?


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: paperbackwriter] * 1
    #22355284 - 10/09/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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paperbackwriter said:
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hostileuniverse said:
Okay then, republicans collect more welfare, we are demonized, but when republicans call for welfare reform, we are demonized, personally I don't care what you "think" your ideology is, what state you live in, or how you vote, if you abuse the system, I want your benefits cut off...




Then why pretend Obama supporters are all welfare queens if you can recognize that abuse crosses party and even ideological boundaries?




Um, I never said that... A large percentage of them are, no doubt, I just don't want the socialist dystopia him and his supporters are trying to impose...


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Invisiblepaperbackwriter
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Re: Can we all agree [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22355344 - 10/09/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How do you figure a large percentage of Obama supporters are welfare queens?  I just showed that welfare states predominantly vote Republican.

As far as what you said or didn't say, I was a replying to your stupid boot meme.


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: paperbackwriter] * 1
    #22355621 - 10/09/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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paperbackwriter said:
How do you figure a large percentage of Obama supporters are welfare queens?  I just showed that welfare states predominantly vote Republican.

As far as what you said or didn't say, I was a replying to your stupid boot meme.




If he didn't have a large welfare base, he wouldn't have been elected, all his rhetoric before his election, and then gets elected, I knew America was probably lost... I just hope enough people have seen the light...

And there are those... Not naming names that are here, that may not be on welfare but certainly support a large welfare state... And you KNOW that's true...


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: burgerbrain] * 1
    #22355623 - 10/09/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

badchad said:
My thoughts:

The vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the 1%.

By definition, if this was redistributed (via communism), life would improve for the 99%. Once they realize this, it'll make perfect sense.




Exactly.

But some of our resident economic geniuses think if everyone works hard enough, we can all be hedge fund managers, CEOs, and Facebook inventors.




^No wonder why we have ditch diggers and burger flippers.





And the boot meme wasn't mine, goes to show how much you pay attention, do you study politics like you read forums?


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Invisibleairclay
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Re: Can we all agree [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22355697 - 10/09/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

what a joke some of these opinions are. I've posted this before but my pinko ass owns a painting business, I work manual labor a good thirty hours a week plus manage and bid jobs. Your lazy judgements about "liberals" (quoted because y'alls definition of the word is based in the terribly inaccurate american meta) are merely personal hang ups you have. When say things like that, higher thinkers just hear "wahhhhh wahhh ppl aren't working as hard as I think I do and are getting things wahhhhhhhhh".


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22355715 - 10/09/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Quote:

burgerbrain said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

badchad said:
My thoughts:

The vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the 1%.

By definition, if this was redistributed (via communism), life would improve for the 99%. Once they realize this, it'll make perfect sense.




Exactly.

But some of our resident economic geniuses think if everyone works hard enough, we can all be hedge fund managers, CEOs, and Facebook inventors.




^No wonder why we have ditch diggers and burger flippers.





And the boot meme wasn't mine, goes to show how much you pay attention, do you study politics like you read forums?




My bad.  I went on a rampage this morning before I had my coffee.  I could have done without the snipe though.  I'm trying really hard to be nice to you.


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: airclay] * 1
    #22355723 - 10/09/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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airclay said:
what a joke some of these opinions are. I've posted this before but my pinko ass owns a painting business, I work manual labor a good thirty hours a week plus manage and bid jobs. Your lazy judgements about "liberals" (quoted because y'alls definition of the word is based in the terribly inaccurate american meta) are merely personal hang ups you have. When say things like that, higher thinkers just hear "wahhhhh wahhh ppl aren't working as hard as I think I do and are getting things wahhhhhhhhh".




Oh, "higher thinkers"??? What a crock of shit, you wanna give all your wealth to them? Be my guest, but keep your greedy paws off my paycheck...


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #22355742 - 10/09/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My bad.  I went on a rampage this morning before I had my coffee.  I could have done without the snipe though.  I'm trying really hard to be nice to you.




I realize that, and I appreciate it, a civil debate does not need to devolve into name calling and hostility...


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22355814 - 10/09/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
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airclay said:
what a joke some of these opinions are. I've posted this before but my pinko ass owns a painting business, I work manual labor a good thirty hours a week plus manage and bid jobs. Your lazy judgements about "liberals" (quoted because y'alls definition of the word is based in the terribly inaccurate american meta) are merely personal hang ups you have. When say things like that, higher thinkers just hear "wahhhhh wahhh ppl aren't working as hard as I think I do and are getting things wahhhhhhhhh".




Oh, "higher thinkers"??? What a crock of shit, you wanna give all your wealth to them? Be my guest, but keep your greedy paws off my paycheck...





it's the simplest, least offensive, on the fly term I could think of for intellectuals, educated folks, you know not folks that base all their ideas off ignorant and reactionary blaming.


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: airclay] * 1
    #22355836 - 10/09/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Blame? Obama said he wouldn't raise my taxes and the bastard did and does every chance he gets. Who else should I blame but him and every douche who voted for him?


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #22355888 - 10/09/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hostileuniverse said:
Blame? Obama said he wouldn't raise my taxes and the bastard did and does every chance he gets. Who else should I blame but him and every douche who voted for him?





you could start with the long line of neo-cons that did the same before him


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Re: Can we all agree [Re: airclay] * 1
    #22355909 - 10/09/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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airclay said:
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hostileuniverse said:
Blame? Obama said he wouldn't raise my taxes and the bastard did and does every chance he gets. Who else should I blame but him and every douche who voted for him?





you could start with the long line of neo-cons that did the same before him




Bush cut my taxes, Obama and his democrat congress raised them, repeatedly

I wasn't a taxpayer before Clinton...


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