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koods said: So unless you get everything you want in a deal, you don't want a deal. Perfection is the enemy of the good. That's not how deals work
We literally didn't get a damn thing dude. What did we get as a nation in this deal? How is giving Iran $150B a good thin? We couldn't we at least get 4 prisoners back. We released 5 terrorist prisoners from Gitmo in exchange for 1 US traitor. That's a GREAT deal. 
The entire "negotiation" was a joke. It's a political maneuver so that Obama can add another bullet point to his legacy. "First US president in X years to successfully negotiate with Iran and make a deal." It was on the new last week that he was "The first US president to shake hands with Iran's leaders in X years".
Obama is a puppet, he doesn't negotiate foreign policy deals. Do you really think they would let some black dude from Chicago with ZERO military and foreign policy experience make deals with our potential enemies?
Just another case of political theater, remember Obama care?
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Re: Bernie Sanders [Re: qman]
#22336439 - 10/05/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: So unless you get everything you want in a deal, you don't want a deal. Perfection is the enemy of the good. That's not how deals work
We literally didn't get a damn thing dude. What did we get as a nation in this deal? How is giving Iran $150B a good thin? We couldn't we at least get 4 prisoners back. We released 5 terrorist prisoners from Gitmo in exchange for 1 US traitor. That's a GREAT deal. 
The entire "negotiation" was a joke. It's a political maneuver so that Obama can add another bullet point to his legacy. "First US president in X years to successfully negotiate with Iran and make a deal." It was on the new last week that he was "The first US president to shake hands with Iran's leaders in X years".
Obama is a puppet, he doesn't negotiate foreign policy deals. Do you really think they would let some black dude from Chicago with ZERO military and foreign policy experience make deals with our potential enemies?
Just another case of political theater, remember Obama care?
They´re all puppets.
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koods said: So unless you get everything you want in a deal, you don't want a deal. Perfection is the enemy of the good. That's not how deals work
We literally didn't get a damn thing dude. What did we get as a nation in this deal? How is giving Iran $150B a good thin? We couldn't we at least get 4 prisoners back. We released 5 terrorist prisoners from Gitmo in exchange for 1 US traitor. That's a GREAT deal. 
The entire "negotiation" was a joke. It's a political maneuver so that Obama can add another bullet point to his legacy. "First US president in X years to successfully negotiate with Iran and make a deal." It was on the new last week that he was "The first US president to shake hands with Iran's leaders in X years".
Obama is a puppet, he doesn't negotiate foreign policy deals. Do you really think they would let some black dude from Chicago with ZERO military and foreign policy experience make deals with our potential enemies?
Just another case of political theater, remember Obama care?
They´re all puppets.
Some dumbass at a bar I was at this weekend was personally blaming Obama because his health insurance premiums went from $400 to $1800 per month, I didn't have the heart to explain the real reasons for his predicament.
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Re: Bernie Sanders [Re: qman]
#22336459 - 10/05/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is this simple. Vote Bernie or die.
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Re: Bernie Sanders [Re: koods]
#22336463 - 10/05/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So just because everyone else supports a deal the American people never got a chance to read, I should also support it?
Non sequitur much? I'm not saying that at all. You're the one who said "literally anyone who supports the Iran deal is ignoring the facts," even when you just admitted you don't know the facts.
So yeah, I'd probably defer to the experts instead of thinking I better understand an agreement that I haven't even read.
We have a representative government. The American people don't get to vote on "deals"
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The Doobie Dude said: It is this simple. Vote Bernie or die.
His socialist polices can work if we get rid of the people that drain the system dry.
We have illegals and dysfunctional cultures in the US that would abuse, and kill the socialist model that Bernie is proposing.
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Re: Bernie Sanders [Re: qman]
#22336496 - 10/05/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: It is this simple. Vote Bernie or die.
His socialist polices can work if we get rid of the people that drain the system dry.
We have illegals and dysfunctional cultures in the US that would abuse, and kill the socialist model that Bernie is proposing.
I was gonna make a joke here, but you might be on to something, I think.
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#22336527 - 10/05/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: It is this simple. Vote Bernie or die.
His socialist polices can work if we get rid of the people that drain the system dry.
We have illegals and dysfunctional cultures in the US that would abuse, and kill the socialist model that Bernie is proposing.
Those people are going to kill any model, we might as well have a system that helps the people who DO want to work, instead of one that just benefits the super rich.
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Nah man trickle down economics works remember?
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Arguments against socialism:
Aaaaaaaaannnddd GO.
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The Doobie Dude said: It is this simple. Vote Bernie or die.
His socialist polices can work if we get rid of the people that drain the system dry.
We have illegals and dysfunctional cultures in the US that would abuse, and kill the socialist model that Bernie is proposing.
Those people are going to kill any model, we might as well have a system that helps the people who DO want to work, instead of one that just benefits the super rich.
Get rid of the illegals and dysfunctional cultures, and I'll sign-up for that policy.
"Cultural diversity" and strong socialist economic policies do NOT work over time, and they never will, do you know my much resentment there already is when hard working people see a bunch of foreigners pushing around baby strollers without a care in the world? It's not good.
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I don't know about you man, but I come from a pretty multicultural family. I can say pretty damn confidently, you sound like a bitter idiot if you're mad at a foreigner pushing a baby stroller.
The people who give a shit about what race or culture someone is kinda an idiot. It's the person's actions that define someone, not their culture or race.
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Achillita said: I don't know about you man, but I come from a pretty multicultural family. I can say pretty damn confidently, you sound like a bitter idiot if you're mad at a foreigner pushing a baby stroller.
The people who give a shit about what race or culture someone is kinda an idiot. It's the person's actions that define someone, not their culture or race.
Well that's a wonderful rant, but it's not grounded in reality.
Why would hard working taxpayers want to support illegals and others for everything to survive? Yes, they have many children at young ages that they can NOT afford on their own, that's a CULTURAL problem, it's not something I'm making up all on my own. 
So yes, when myself and others see a long line of baby strollers from the same demographic that can NOT support themselves, it's very telling.
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Re: Bernie Sanders [Re: qman]
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Most places that have illegal immigrants from latin america, also have perfectly legal citizens who's descended from latin america.
My grandmothers parents were born in mexico and came here legally. My grandfather came here legally from mexico as well. My city has tons of people of Latino descent.
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The Ecstatic said: Arguments against socialism:
Aaaaaaaaannnddd GO.
Unrealistic
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then you havent bothered to look
I have.... so post something
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The Ecstatic said: Arguments against socialism:
Aaaaaaaaannnddd GO.
Unrealistic
Totally, that must be why countries with socialistic care have half the costs, and equal if not better care.
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Achillita said: I don't know about you man, but I come from a pretty multicultural family. I can say pretty damn confidently, you sound like a bitter idiot if you're mad at a foreigner pushing a baby stroller.
The people who give a shit about what race or culture someone is kinda an idiot. It's the person's actions that define someone, not their culture or race.
agreed. The immigrants appreciate what we have here way more than we ever will
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Achillita said: I don't know about you man, but I come from a pretty multicultural family. I can say pretty damn confidently, you sound like a bitter idiot if you're mad at a foreigner pushing a baby stroller.
The people who give a shit about what race or culture someone is kinda an idiot. It's the person's actions that define someone, not their culture or race.
agreed. The immigrants appreciate what we have here way more than we ever will
Of course they do, free health care, education, food, disability, public housing, and welfare are fucking great!!
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The Ecstatic said: Arguments against socialism:
Aaaaaaaaannnddd GO.
Unrealistic
Socialism not only exists, but succeeds in dozens of countries.
Anybody else?
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