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drum of rum
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Brf cakes to BULK
#22328985 - 10/03/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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so I've got 3 half pint brf cakes that are a 1 day into the consolidation period and 8 that Ohio will fruit with a Sgfc.
my question is what would be the best bulk substrate for these three half pint brf cakes it's kind of an experiment to see whether or not I should I should go straight to bulk on my next grow.
Any advice is appreciated. Its easy to find links and and change amounts appropriately but I would like someone with experience to give me exact measurements for bulk substate materials needed for 3 half pint brf cakes. I was thinking leached horse poop and vermiculite but I'd this is my first grow.
what do you think would result in the best yeilds? next time around I wiki be using grain or wbs
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hago hongo
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Brf to bulk isn't really worth it in my opinion. Your taking an almost sure thing and risking contams again and the yield isn't that much more. The sucess rate however is alot lower.
I would say if your doing the pf tek then just keep doing what works. Get some grain and agar and start attempting to do bulk the right way. Its a little more tricky so I did both for a while just to make sure I could get at least a small crop if the bulk failed and believe me it did the first couple times.
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TrichFarmer
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I spawn brf cakes to coir/verm with the usual coir bucket tek (i use a beer cooler instead of a bucket) it works very well if you're okay with occasionally only getting one flush from it due to contams. You're essentially guaranteed one good flush before a contam unless your spawn is contaminated. I mostly get 2 flushes sometimes 3 even with my lazy techniques. The great thing about coir/verm is it takes minutes to prep with bare minimum sterile technique required and is good to spawn to a few hours after its cooled.
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hago hongo
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Any tek that produces contams is not a very good tek. Taking healthy cakes and crumbling them up to contam after 1 flush is not the way To go
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TrichFarmer
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That's true my technique isn't very good but it suits my needs with minimal effort. If I ever decide to take this seriously I'd vastly improve my methods.
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1:1 ratio, please
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Northerner
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I've spawned BRF to h/poo loads of times with great success. I used a cheese grater to get the best surface area from "crumbling" the cakes, and then put them spawned 1/1 in plastic take away containers covered with foil to colonize. I wrapped the see through take away containers with tape to keep dark, but I don't believe that's necessary. Then fruited the loaves in an SGFC like you would a 1/2 pint cake. 4 times as many shrooms, just a couple of weeks longer wait.
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Northerner said: I've spawned BRF to h/poo loads of times with great success. I used a cheese grater to get the best surface area from "crumbling" the cakes, and then put them spawned 1/1 in plastic take away containers covered with foil to colonize. I wrapped the see through take away containers with tape to keep dark, but I don't believe that's necessary. Then fruited the loaves in an SGFC like you would a 1/2 pint cake. 4 times as many shrooms, just a couple of weeks longer wait.
finally some good advise in this thread lol, it's not even two weeks longer though......you would be consolidating for at least a week with cakes anyway
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Re: Brf cakes to BULK [Re: cronicr]
#22330635 - 10/03/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had some pretty good success with one of my cakes to bulk pans recently. I have also had quite a few failures.
Staying away from manure I will be. The grow was kept track of in my signature if you're interested.
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Re: Brf cakes to BULK [Re: EntheoGod]
#22330654 - 10/03/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, manure has to be pasteurized properly. I only use it because that's what I can get here. Coir is much easier.
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pixelpopper
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I've never done a proper bulk spawn with PF cakes but plan on doing so in the next week. I have done many small and large sized tubs of crumbled cakes cased with verm only, never had any issues with contams and always got much better yields on the flushes than leaving them as cakes.
Have been starting to work with WBS for bulk and seems to be pretty easy so I'll probably stick with that mostly, but in the transition still doing some PF cakes as backup as they always come through.
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drum of rum
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hago hongo said: Brf to bulk isn't really worth it in my opinion. Your taking an almost sure thing and risking contams again and the yield isn't that much more. The sucess rate however is alot lower.
I would say if your doing the pf tek then just keep doing what works. Get some grain and agar and start attempting to do bulk the right way. Its a little more tricky so I did both for a while just to make sure I could get at least a small crop if the bulk failed and believe me it did the first couple times.
I will just fruit the cakes probably and get a bulk experiment going on while I wait...
1. is there any way to use mycelium to start new jars or will I have to wait for my first flush to get spores?
2. I have 2 different strains ( b+ and pes Hawaiian) that are mixed up and not labeled. if I were to spawn both strains to the same substrate would I just get both types of mushrooms popping up?"
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