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thebitterbuffalo26
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22328569 - 10/03/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Zappa: no one works for federal minimum wage because it's so absolutely low that no one will. It's that low. Nine dollars an hour is above minimum wage if I'm not mistaken. And that's too fucking low. Dude, you don't understand that some people, by way of their culture and life position aren't meant to be more than Labour workers. This is your persistent fundamental misunderstanding. It doesn't make them losers, they just are people being. But that doesn't mean they are stupid and deserve to be fucked by the likes of you.
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: Patlal]
#22328577 - 10/03/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here fast food workers make 7.25/hr. If they made $9 they would make the same as a cna that went to school to do their job.
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
#22328578 - 10/03/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Education should be free for the masses anyway
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thebitterbuffalo26
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: Shroomslip]
#22328583 - 10/03/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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thebitterbuffalo26 said: When a corporation makes and rapes as much as McDonald's or taco bell, why shouldn't the employees get a fair piece of the pie? There's millions and millions of dollars to spare at the top. It's because some people (the rich especially) think they've outsmarted life and they deserve more and are entitled to more. The poor people think they're entitled to more than debt and Medicaid
Isn't expecting more than minimum wage for flipping burgers thinking you deserve more and are entitled to more in the same way that the rich people think they are?
Dude, what poor people expect is a drop in the bucket, compared to rich people. What do they think they're entitled to? Food? Housing? Maybe a cell phone? Get outta here
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: Patlal]
#22328588 - 10/03/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: 404]
#22328593 - 10/03/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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True....I got financial aid so mine was close to free. A lot of people don't know they have those resources though.
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You get like one raise a year where I'm at, not on merit, and matinence who cleans bathrooms get the same. That was directed at Zapp, not youQuote:
thebitterbuffalo26 said: Zappa: no one works for federal minimum wage because it's so absolutely low that no one will. It's that low. Nine dollars an hour is above minimum wage if I'm not mistaken. And that's too fucking low. Dude, you don't understand that some people, by way of their culture and life position aren't meant to be more than Labour workers. This is your persistent fundamental misunderstanding. It doesn't make them losers, they just are people being. But that doesn't mean they are stupid and deserve to be fucked by the likes of you.
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zappaisgod
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: Asante]
#22328597 - 10/03/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you are in the workforce more than 3 months and are still making minimum you are a fucking loser
What does that mean? Someone fails to rise above minimum so? Look down on them? Disrespect them? Why? All you know of them is that they make minimum wage.
Thats like saying that all millionaires are bastards.
What kind of idiotic analogy is that? If you are in the workforce for more than 3 months and are still making minimum wage you are defective. It is obvious.
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zappaisgod said: Facts are not attitudes.
Dismissively calling people who for whatever reason have to rely on minimum wage "total losers" has nothing to do with facts and everything with being judgemental. Its a kick in the nuts for people, no doubt more than a few members are in this category, who are down on their luck for whatever reason.
If someone fails to thrive in their career it doesnt mean they are inferior as human beings or that their work contribution is irrelevant. If everybody on minimum wage would stop working at once it would be a crisis, society depends on this underpaid segment of the workforce.
And yes I say underpaid because whatever a person does in a country with a living standard like the USA, even if its the stereotypical fast food job - is WORTH MORE THAN $9 AN HOUR.
I was referring to the link. Did you read it? Almost nobody works for minimum wage and they are largely kids living at home. I am fully aware that my opinion that people who work for minimum wage after a certain period of time are losers is just my opinion but I would love to hear a rebuttal to that. They are inferior as workers. Losers. They have the same rights as anybody else. Their work contribution is shit. They will be replaced by robots. McDonalds could very easily autoomate at least half of its production system. What do you thnk happenede to autoworker jibs? The auto unions priced themselves into competing with robots. I bet McDs is already working on robotics. I sure would be. Do you know now much $9 an hour nets when you work 0 hours?
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yeah pretty much. Not everyone's job is the focus of their life. I started to reply but figured there's really no arguing with that
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thebitterbuffalo26 said: When a corporation makes and rapes as much as McDonald's or taco bell, why shouldn't the employees get a fair piece of the pie? There's millions and millions of dollars to spare at the top. It's because some people (the rich especially) think they've outsmarted life and they deserve more and are entitled to more. The poor people think they're entitled to more than debt and Medicaid
What is fair and why should they get anything more than what the monkey who can replace them would cost? What is lost in thes continuing argument from you social justice crusaders is that A McDonalds does not own most of these restaurants. They are franchhises usually owned by some local guy. And every motherfucking one of their employees can be replaced in a heartbeat. For every one of their unskilled asses complaining about the low pay there are ten people on the street who could replace them in one day and who are making nothing
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22328617 - 10/03/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: That is kinda the issue vis a vis federal minimum wage. You live in Podunk Idaho your rent is shit. You live in downtown Manhattan it is so atronomical you need a telescope to see it.
Think about what you're saying. Rent isn't shit. But are groceries any cheaper? What about internet? Do cars miraculously become cheaper in the country? What about insurance? Rent is the topic, but just because someone's rent is cheaper doesn't mean 25k a year is sufficient. Get outta here
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22328625 - 10/03/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey Zappa, what about when robots do take over all the low-level jobs? There won't even be enough higher level jobs for everyone. Are we just going to say fuck you guys and throw them in the ocean?
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thebitterbuffalo26
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22328628 - 10/03/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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thebitterbuffalo26 said: When a corporation makes and rapes as much as McDonald's or taco bell, why shouldn't the employees get a fair piece of the pie? There's millions and millions of dollars to spare at the top. It's because some people (the rich especially) think they've outsmarted life and they deserve more and are entitled to more. The poor people think they're entitled to more than debt and Medicaid
What is fair and why should they get anything more than what the monkey who can replace them would cost? What is lost in thes continuing argument from you social justice crusaders is that A McDonalds does not own most of these restaurants. They are franchhises usually owned by some local guy. And every motherfucking one of their employees can be replaced in a heartbeat. For every one of their unskilled asses complaining about the low pay there are ten people on the street who could replace them in one day and who are making nothing
I heard in the future, like on star trek, all mundane jobs will be replaced by robots and there won't be any low level jobs. So no one will have shit to do and everyone will get a base salary for being alive...
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zappaisgod said: That is kinda the issue vis a vis federal minimum wage. You live in Podunk Idaho your rent is shit. You live in downtown Manhattan it is so atronomical you need a telescope to see it.
Think about what you're saying. Rent isn't shit. But are groceries any cheaper? What about internet? Do cars miraculously become cheaper in the country? What about insurance? Rent is the topic, but just because someone's rent is cheaper doesn't mean 25k a year is sufficient. Get outta here
Groceries are definitely cheaper. If you can't live on 25K in Peoria you are doing it wrong or you have a kid.
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22328639 - 10/03/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well yeah you're right but you definitely won't go on vacation or have anything nice. Once you get a kid you're now eating government cheese
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: clock_of_omens]
#22328644 - 10/03/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm saying that if you can't learn to survive in the jungle, you deserve to be eaten by it
Stop thinking someone owes you something...especially 15 an hour
Apparently I need to have sympathy for boys like 336 who made it to work when it was snowing. His employer should be grateful
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thebitterbuffalo26 said: When a corporation makes and rapes as much as McDonald's or taco bell, why shouldn't the employees get a fair piece of the pie? There's millions and millions of dollars to spare at the top. It's because some people (the rich especially) think they've outsmarted life and they deserve more and are entitled to more. The poor people think they're entitled to more than debt and Medicaid
Isn't expecting more than minimum wage for flipping burgers thinking you deserve more and are entitled to more in the same way that the rich people think they are?
Dude, what poor people expect is a drop in the bucket, compared to rich people. What do they think they're entitled to? Food? Housing? Maybe a cell phone? Get outta here
Want more, then be more. I never sat around bitching about minimum wage going "that's bullshit man, they could afford to pay me more!". I was unskilled and had no right to demand more just because the company turned a profit. Know what I did when I decided I wanted more than dead end minimum wage? I got certified in a trade that pays more.
Sorry, but life just doesn't do handouts. People flipping burgers do not deserve the pay I was getting when I was working in a refinery. Job was hard as hell, exhausting, had to deal with extreme elements not to mention there were 100 ways I could be killed at any minute. I used to flip burgers, back when minimum wage was 5.15. I didn't complain about minimum wage then, I didn't complain about it when it was raised and I went to retail.
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: Masked] 2
#22328664 - 10/03/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldn't even be able to survive on 15/hr...
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: Masked]
#22328666 - 10/03/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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We no longer live in the jungle in case you were unaware. It's still down there in South America if you really want to test your shit. It isn't about being "owed", it's about living as a society which decides not to say fuck these people.
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Re: No wonder you guys are broke all the time.... [Re: Shroomslip]
#22328667 - 10/03/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow, we do have some young men with a backbone on here.
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