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Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this
    #22326460 - 10/02/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Had college all morning, got home and studied for my calculus test coming up...then went into work for a ten hour shift at my hard ass job i dont consider eay one bit but pays a decent bit better than minimum (wholesale selector making 8ft tall pallets of products). I just got out at 1am and went to go find this mcdonalds down the road...was lookin around then noticed the yellow light so i went through it at the same speed i was going which wasnt anything crazy...then realized i have to go to the left three lanes so i looked and saw someone 200ft behind me so i cut over...it was a fucking cop. Didnt cut him off at all, and went theough a yellow light...all totally legal. Maybe he can get me for not slowing down through the light but thats fuckin gay.

Pulls me over, says i ran a red light (definitely did not..i didnt slow down through it like you're supposed to though he said but still wrote me up for going through a fucking red. He said he smelled bud which he probably did since i smoked in it yesterday after work when i got home. I thought he wasnt allowed to search over scent...i had a video going the whole time but its just the wall of my car and the audio. I gave him my case with my brand new pipe, case and eighth.

I thought we were seriously connecting for a few minutes too...i was telling him how im full time in school almost with my associates working a pretty difficult job 30 hrs a week trying my ass off...ive had a cop not write my friend up anything over weed and just take it but nope wrote me up for
-running red light
-paraphanelia
-under a half oz
=$415 fucking dollars

What a CROCK of shit. I could have swore in CT and many other states smelling it isnt probable cause. Wtf i even said it was my jacket because my friend. I wish i could somehow fight this because i dead honest did go through a yellow light but theres nothig i can do. Can i fight this or an i dreaming...? Not worth it? Now i have a traffic record for this bullshit? Like really?


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22326531 - 10/03/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Isnt it so sad? Like i cant believe the anger im feeling right now, i needed to vent this shit so bad


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22326537 - 10/03/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How would you hve tried to get off? I TRIED SO HARD trust me...he had this younger cop riding passenger...prob had to do it idefk but the younger one seemed mad chill...as did the main one but he sill looked like he kinda had something about him where you knew he wasnt gonna let you off. I literally everything or so i think i did


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22326539 - 10/03/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Unfortunately it sounds like he has a pretty good case against you


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22326576 - 10/03/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thats funny he wrote down your address, i bumped the theme song to cops for a solid minute on full blast while they were taking their time writing my ticket. Not sure if they found it funny or not though as litterally 20 somethin mins later i finally got my ticket so it was off both our minds. I thought id get a weaker ticket making them laugh, not. Gabriel iglesias was prob wrong there


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22326584 - 10/03/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So now any cop who pulls up my plates or license will see the weed and traffic violation right


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22326617 - 10/03/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So now any cop who pulls up my plates or license will see the weed and traffic violation right




Depends on your state. I got a parking ticket when we first moved out West for a packed bowl. Just passed background checks for work and our apartment. I'd ask in Enlil's "ask an attorney" thread in Security and Safety.

You can post anon there too. All Enlil is going to care about are the specifics and your state. No need to tell him a short story just get down to it.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells] * 1
    #22326634 - 10/03/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

PM Enlil, he will fight your case for you and loves being :pm:'d about stuff like this


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Peachette]
    #22326635 - 10/03/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sad police state no longer needs to "run" your plate, the camera in his car isn't for your safety, it scans every tag in his path and instantly runs through the data base, so any crime or info in the system(including derogatory online posts) are on his screen, and in the event he already passed that car the data and GPS coordinates are sent to him to head back to that location along with a photo of the car and where it was exactly. There is no escape from the police state we live in, we are all incarcerated without the actual cage, atleast not yet, they first have to extort any money you have or items of value through civil asset forfit... and the courts then the cage when all else is gone .


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: perikleous]
    #22326893 - 10/03/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You should be lucky OP
That was a miracle what happened,,,,
you should suck that cops dick a couple times to pay off your ticket
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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Konyap]
    #22327282 - 10/03/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You should be lucky OP
That was a miracle what happened,,,,
you should suck that cops dick a couple times to pay off your ticket
as a token of apprecition




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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22327307 - 10/03/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You gotta think about these CT cops.  They are bored as shit around here and will do anything for a little action.  That bust made that guys whole week.  He went home like "honey I took another doper off the street tonight".


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: fungusmuncher]
    #22327328 - 10/03/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If a cop smells weed you say no. If he finds your weed you say, I don't know what that is.


I had just packed a bowl after picking up a qp. i was doing 86 in a 70 and I get pulled over. My bowl is still in my cup holder packed. I put it in the middle console and pull over. The cop tells me that i was speeding than goes, do you have marijuana in the car. No. Really, cause I smell it bad. No. I'm going to ask you again, less than an ounce is a misdemeanor and more than an ounce is a felony and you will be going to jail Do you have marijuana in the car. Uhh... No.

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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: theonlysun81]
    #22327344 - 10/03/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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If a cop smells weed you say no. If he finds your weed you say, I don't know what that is.


I had just packed a bowl after picking up a qp. i was doing 86 in a 70 and I get pulled over. My bowl is still in my cup holder packed. I put it in the middle console and pull over. The cop tells me that i was speeding than goes, do you have marijuana in the car. No. Really, cause I smell it bad. No. I'm going to ask you again, less than an ounce is a misdemeanor and more than an ounce is a felony and you will be going to jail Do you have marijuana in the car. Uhh... No.

The answer is always no.




I said no till he forcably entering my car, figure might as well give him it so he doesnt say i wasnt compliant or some shit. Didnt try the "that isnt mine thing" tho


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22327509 - 10/03/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Isn't compliant? It's not your job to give him evidence against you.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: koods]
    #22327522 - 10/03/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Weed fines are just becoming a juicy revenue stream for police departments and municipalities.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: koods]
    #22327534 - 10/03/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ask to show the dash cam footage in court :shurg:

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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: koods]
    #22327838 - 10/03/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Isn't compliant? It's not your job to give him evidence against you.



exactly. its his job to beat you until you have to call the ACLU to get your dignity back


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22327915 - 10/03/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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was lookin around then noticed the yellow light so i went through it at the same speed i was going which wasnt anything crazy...then realized i have to go to the left three lanes so i looked and saw someone 200ft behind me so i cut over...it was a fucking cop.




First off if your in a yellow light your now supposed to speed up, not slow down to get through.  If the cop was 200 ft or so behind you, that means he would of ran the red light.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: lowbrow]
    #22341221 - 10/06/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My friend got himself into something similar recently and mentioned that if you try and fight it THEY DO NOT add to the ticket or anything so its worth a shot, wrong? Any comments on that?


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22341669 - 10/06/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would think that would be the case if mj possession in Ct. is a misdemeanor. Probably just like a traffic ticket where the worse they can do is keep the points and the fine the same as is on the ticket (which is probably the maximum penalty).


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22341710 - 10/06/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

If this is the case I really want to try to fight it because I could have swore I made it through it. Now what if you're in it when its yellow because maybe your back end is 1 foot under the light or something, i wonder is that running a red haha? If they raise my fine over some shit like this its not worth risking it but I truly believe there's a good chance I totally made it through. I'm curious what the dash cam will show...

I wonder if it'll help my case at all having the cop blow through the red on video with no lights on just to stay near?


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22341857 - 10/06/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So did he search or not? You said they can search over scent but then you said you gave it all to him so he must not have searched it?

He forcibly entered your car? Or did he say he was going to and you broke and gave him your weed?

"I do not give you consent to search this vehicle"


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22341945 - 10/06/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So did he search or not? You said they can search over scent but then you said you gave it all to him so he must not have searched it?

He forcibly entered your car? Or did he say he was going to and you broke and gave him your weed?

"I do not give you consent to search this vehicle"




I never allowed him to search it, I denied him searching it multiple times and denied the scent of it all along. I have a video recording of everything thats really just the audio because it was in my door facing the door but its all recording. When i was outside the car and he asked me one last time before going in i said no there isnt but when he entered I went over and into the console and grabbed it. He then continued to search it anyways after and found nothing.

A couple of my friends are saying in CT scent isnt good enough reason to search...i know in MA scent isnt reason to search but idk about CT i'm doing more research soon after i finish my homework for school. I think I'm going to fight this long as there's no way for them to increase the amount on the ticket, if he doesn't show up I heard they throw it away. I doubt it's that simple but yeah. There were two cops there, I only smoke to one and the other stood behind my car the whole time and only talked to me briefly while my car was being searched...i wonder if he can speak for the main cop if he decides to not want to go? He was in the car with him the whole time he was writing the ticket and shit and did see me speed through the yellow light, hmm.

When i told the cop first thing it was a yellow light i went through the first thing he replied with was "you didnt slow down through it like you were supposed to". So he basically admitted I went through a yellow and i wonder if i use that against him in court that he will agree he said that. I wonder if that's a big plus too? If the light switches from yellow to red and your car is like one inch under the red for a split second is that considered running a red light? I have failure to comply with TCS or something, i dont wanna know if this will effect my insurance or if this is a very bad violation basically saying i blew a stop sign or something but...ugh i dont know enough and its pissing me off

My b for all the questions and how scattered this post is lol...you dont have to answer them I just want them out there for others to maybe answer if they know something


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22341981 - 10/06/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You might be able to get the evidence dismissed because of an unlawful search but it's hard to tell becuase I don't really know the situation. Why were you out of the car? Why did you decide to get back in and give it to him?


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22342007 - 10/06/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You might be able to get the evidence dismissed because of an unlawful search but it's hard to tell becuase I don't really know the situation. Why were you out of the car? Why did you decide to get back in and give it to him?




I told him I dont consent to the search and he said "well i tried to be polite and ask but now im telling you you need to get out of the car for the search" again said no this is not a legitimate search scent is not good reason and he said yes it is sir now please get out...this went on a couple times and i finally gave up and went to stand behind my car next to the younger cop watching. I went back in to get the pipe and give it to him because he had already began his search and i figured the hell with it he's gonna find it anyways because i had it in a case with my couple grams in the console anyways so instead of having him tack on another ticket for not complying i figure might as well try to help my cause as its inevitable now.

Should i just white lie in court and like not mention that last part about giving him it when I was already being forcably searched? Im sure it wont help me so might as well leave it out then


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22342033 - 10/06/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing you can do. When I was a teen I got pulled over for expired tags that weren't expired and I happened to of had some drinks that night. I was smoking in the car but the cop just immediately had me get out, never even searched the car and put me straight to a breathalyzer and I got a DUI. Basically the stop was full blown bullshit illegal but nothing I could do because well I did have some drinks. That is why I never drive if I drink because dumb shit like this.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22342271 - 10/06/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't lie in court that will probably just hurt you. No sense in it now but I don't think you had to get out of your car. When they say get out you say "Am I under arrest sir?" If theyre gonna put you in the cuffs yah you gotta get out but a cop saying get out is one of those things like how they ask if they can search your car and just about anything you say can be taken as "yes you may search my car".

There's a great article on erowid all about dealing with cops you should read it.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22342518 - 10/06/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

He doesn't need probable cause when you hand him your contraband.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Enlil]
    #22342743 - 10/06/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Shoulda stuck the weed in your butt. Forreal, between the cheeks and squeezed :lol:

I always wear compression shorts under my regular underwear so if im carrying say a small bag of weed, and a bowl i can put them both in the compression shorts and they will stay in place. It worked for me the one time i got pulled over and searched :shrug:


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22343019 - 10/06/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I just got out at 1am and went to go find this mcdonalds down the road...was lookin around then noticed the yellow light so i went through it at the same speed i was going which wasnt anything crazy...then realized i have to go to the left three lanes so i looked and saw someone 200ft behind me so i cut over...it was a fucking cop. Didnt cut him off at all, and went theough a yellow light...all totally legal. Maybe he can get me for not slowing down through the light but thats fuckin gay.




If you changed lanes in an intersection it is a traffic violation. Also a yellow light means "clear the intersection" not keep fucking going until it's red.

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He said he smelled bud which he probably did since i smoked in it yesterday after work when i got home. I thought he wasnt allowed to search over scent...





How do you think a DUI stop goes? "You smell like alcohol." What do you mean they can't search on scent are you kidding me?

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i had a video going the whole time but its just the wall of my car and the audio.




Good for you I hope the 50 mb video helps you out down the road.

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I gave him my case with my brand new pipe, case and eighth.




So you GAVE HIM DRUGS? :facepalm:

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I thought we were seriously connecting for a few minutes too...i was telling him how im full time in school almost with my associates working a pretty difficult job 30 hrs a week trying my ass off...ive had a cop not write my friend up anything over weed and just take it but nope wrote me up for
-running red light
-paraphanelia
-under a half oz
=$415 fucking dollars





You're an idiot and that isn't even an expensive ticket considering.

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What a CROCK of shit. I could have swore in CT and many other states smelling it isnt probable cause. Wtf i even said it was my jacket because my friend.




Probably would have worked until you HANDED HIM DRUGS.

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I wish i could somehow fight this because i dead honest did go through a yellow light but theres nothig i can do. Can i fight this or an i dreaming...? Not worth it? Now i have a traffic record for this bullshit? Like really?




He has a dash cam you can fight the light ticket. You wouldn't have the weed ticket if you weren't stupid.

If he had ANYTHING to go on it would have gone like:

"Do you have any marijuana in the car?" to which you say NO
"Can I search the vehicle" to which you say NO
And he would have gone and gotten a search warrant if he had any ground because you were fucked anyway.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22343286 - 10/06/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So now any cop who pulls up my plates or license will see the weed and traffic violation right




The most important thing: is this going to show up on your criminal record? If the weed is just a fine in your jurisdiction you are gold, just pay it and move on. If this is a crime that's going to show up on your record forever, fucking fight it. In the last 15 years I have had about 8 criminal record background checks for jobs, all those jobs I would not have got if I had a single pot bust on my record. To me that's the most important reason to not get caught, it will ruin your future.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Enlil]
    #22344096 - 10/07/15 05:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The way he makes it sound like is that the cop began searching his car, at which point he handed him his weed. He said he gave it to him because he thought he'd get an additional charge if he didn't, but the cop was already searching. Does it make any difference in whether the cop finds it or he gives it to him?

@The Moose, there are several states that have passed laws dismissing the smell of weed as probable cause.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #22344230 - 10/07/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Does it make any difference in whether the cop finds it or he gives it to him?



Yes.  Even if the search is found illegal, that evidence didn't come from the search.  That was handed over voluntarily.  That evidence won't be  suppressed.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Enlil]
    #22345166 - 10/07/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck so what do you think enlil. Its decriminalized in my state but is it still worth fighting? Can the ticket amount be increased at all if i take it to court?


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22345376 - 10/07/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

for $415, I'd pay it.  It isn't worth fighting.


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22354786 - 10/09/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Enlil, will future employers be able to see this incident as marijuana if they go to do a background check despite it being decriminalized? Also i sure every cop that wants to pull me over will be able to see it too right again despite being decriminalized? Im more worried about future employers...its not reallly the money im worried about here really its my record. I just need to know these answers so i can send it out monday with my decision.

If i have to put a little time into fighting for my record its probably worth it, if employers cant see this then forget it


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22355021 - 10/09/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

But like a precious poster mentioned, when employers see the mj they instantly dont give a shit about you...so if i can get rid of it and not lose any more money fuck it right? I dont wanna waste my time with it if they cant see it to begin with though


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22355161 - 10/09/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I hope my insurance company cant see it either fuckin a


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: Jvells]
    #22357177 - 10/10/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

since its decrim it shouldnt matter, like a traffic ticket. not 100% sure and it probably varies state to state


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Re: Went through yellow light, found my weed $415 ticket...can i fight this [Re: The Moose]
    #22357979 - 10/10/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Get over it and pay it. Not much you can do and even if you decide to fight it,it will only cause more problems. Move along.


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