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Why did the early universe expand?
#22324902 - 10/02/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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According to the big bang theory, the first 10-34 involved the universe doubling in size 90 times- expanding faster than the speed of light- at which point it began expanding more slowly.
My question is- why did the universe expand in the first place? There don't appear to be any other instances of this happening.
I am not trying to not-so-subtly argue a creationist position here. I am sure someone out there- probably Koods- has an answer. But I can't find one online. Just more descriptions of what happened, but not any explanations of why it happened.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted]
#22324924 - 10/02/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dont think anyone knows, but i believe there was no cause in the first place because time didnt exist.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted]
#22324927 - 10/02/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because it decided to get ready in the event that your mama came to be
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted]
#22324936 - 10/02/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a theory, and its that black holes are expanding our universe. They say black holes might take you somewhere else and everyone always assumes its to another universe or some shit, but maybe each galaxy grows, and then ones its big enough the black hole grows and then the exit is newly created space, the black hole feeds that new space with matter to create stars and planets, then it grows until it shoots out another black hole to create more space somewhere.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted]
#22324948 - 10/02/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's just what energy does yo.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted]
#22324964 - 10/02/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, supposedly it was an explosion. So it expanded. Sort of like a super nova, but on a larger scale. The big bang seems highly unlikely though. I mean how could everything spring from nothing? Wouldn't that violate conservation of mass and energy?
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22324988 - 10/02/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's not what the theory states - the theory states that it is the first known event in da universe not the origin of all matter/energy
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted] 1
#22324989 - 10/02/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: According to the big bang theory, the first 10-34 involved the universe doubling in size 90 times- expanding faster than the speed of light- at which point it began expanding more slowly.
My question is- why did the universe expand in the first place? There don't appear to be any other instances of this happening.
I am not trying to not-so-subtly argue a creationist position here. I am sure someone out there- probably Koods- has an answer. But I can't find one online. Just more descriptions of what happened, but not any explanations of why it happened.
But seriously.
The universe expanded because it could. It exploded into emptiness. Just like anything else, when you have space to grow, you expand. But the thing about expanding in emptiness is that you are infinite. You never run out of space.... Then again an infinite entity doesn't even require outside space to expand because by being infinite, it can simply expand within itself endlessly. Just like the fact that you only have to count to 1 and you are already faced with infinity... 0.01, 0.001, 0.001, etc. It can expand within the bounds of one value and constantly add a digit to fulfill its need for constant new space to expand into.
Based on what I've read from the physics, life, is that only those who seek to expand survive. therefore the university has to expand endlessly until the matter within it achieves total balance; at which point, there will be no more chemical reactions happening, which pretty much means that you will have unending expanses of several light years populated by a single atom forever becoming further apart from all other atoms.... The end of everything that could be...
So yeah... Thats why it expanded.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: Patlal]
#22325001 - 10/02/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: Patlal]
#22325003 - 10/02/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: My question is- why did the universe expand in the first place? There don't appear to be any other instances of this happening. .
Thats because it would have to occur inside the universe, which is obviously impossible. I think a good anology is the universe being like a ballon being blown up, with the outside walls of the balloon being the part that expanded. We are inside of the balloon. We are in finite space, the universe is expanding into infinite space.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: Patlal]
#22325008 - 10/02/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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morrowasted said: According to the big bang theory, the first 10-34 involved the universe doubling in size 90 times- expanding faster than the speed of light- at which point it began expanding more slowly.
My question is- why did the universe expand in the first place? There don't appear to be any other instances of this happening.
I am not trying to not-so-subtly argue a creationist position here. I am sure someone out there- probably Koods- has an answer. But I can't find one online. Just more descriptions of what happened, but not any explanations of why it happened.
But seriously.
The universe expanded because it could. It exploded into emptiness. Just like anything else, when you have space to grow, you expand. But the thing about expanding in emptiness is that you are infinite. You never run out of space.... Then again an infinite entity doesn't even require outside space to expand because by being infinite, it can simply expand within itself endlessly. Just like the fact that you only have to count to 1 and you are already faced with infinity... 0.01, 0.001, 0.001, etc. It can expand within the bounds of one value and constantly add a digit to fulfill its need for constant new space to expand into.
Based on what I've read from the physics, life, is that only those who seek to expand survive. therefore the university has to expand endlessly until the matter within it achieves total balance; at which point, there will be no more chemical reactions happening, which pretty much means that you will have unending expanses of several light years populated by a single atom forever becoming further apart from all other atoms.... The end of everything that could be...
So yeah... Thats why it expanded.
Awesome response! The heat death of the universe, iirc.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: Patlal]
#22325015 - 10/02/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The universe doesn't expand in the sense that there is more space than before. Space itself is expanding.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22325031 - 10/02/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just like anything else, when you have space to grow, you expand.
Are you claiming that space existed OUTSIDE of the singularity BEFORE it expanded? I thought that spacetime was a function of the expanding singularity itself.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: koods]
#22325036 - 10/02/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: The universe doesn't expand in the sense that there is more space than before. Space itself is expanding.
This is what I have read, but that doesn't explain away the question. The question is WHY is that happening?
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted]
#22325040 - 10/02/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I blame cheetoes and the universe being lazy
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted] 1
#22325041 - 10/02/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shh, don't ask why. Just let it happen.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: morrowasted]
#22325043 - 10/02/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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People are so used to cause and effect they have a hard time accepting that, possibly, the big bang had no cause.
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22325054 - 10/02/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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And if you think that way, you have to ask why the initial singularity even existed in the first place?
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22325077 - 10/02/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Why did the early universe expand? [Re: Asante] 1
#22325087 - 10/02/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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