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InvisibleDavethefaker
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First high dose solo
    #22324779 - 10/02/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've taken shrooms/truffles a couple of times before socially, and feel I'm ready to explore their introspective aspects more. So I've decided to take a higher dose than usual and try McKenna's setting for his "heroic dose" - lying in bed in a silent dark room with eyes closed. I don't actualy plan on taking as much as he suggests for my first time, but want to mirror the general experience of self examination rather than just enjoying visuals etc. As it's a first time and I'm not hugely experienced,thought I'd run my plan by you guys and ask for advice.

For setting, I'm renting a one bed flat for a weekend whilst at a seminar - figure it'll be nicer than a hotel room and I won't have to worry about staff interactions etc. Home isn't an option as we have a baby. I'll take truffles as they're easier to get than mushrooms for me - I'm thinking 25g Hollandia should be a high enough dose, as my aim is about a level 4 trip (last Time I took about 18g Atlantis but only had a level 2 trip). Part of me is tempted to go higher - McKenna's idea that you need a high enough dose that you can't resist, as the resisting is what causes anxiety and bad trips, appeals to me somewhat. But for a first trip I'd rather go too low then to high.

I'm not a big meditator or spiritual person generally, but after dosing I figure I'll do about 20 mins yoga and 20 mins guided meditation (basic app on my phone - nothing special but all I'm familiar with). I'm thinking chamomile tea might go well before to keep me relaxed, anyone else tried this? I might have music for the come up but will probably turn it off when I feel it coming on. I know most people here say booze and shrooms don't go, but maybe a glass of wine before?

I'll try to approach it with the mindset that the trip will take me wherever it wants, and hopefully I'll remember not to fight it. My only concern is I'm dealing with an issue with a family member atm - I won't bore you with the details, but I'm just wondering if I should try to resolve that before tripping. On the one hand I feel the trip might help me resolve my feelings about it, but on the other I'm concerned I'm being naive in thinking it definitely won't ruin or dominate the trip. Facing uncomfortable elements about myself don't overly concern me - after all, I'm after some self examination and discovery - but a really bad trip alone and away from home does sound scary.

So yeah, if anyone has advice on the chamomile or wine, or the relationship of personal problems to tripping that'd be great. Or just feedback on the general approach would be cool.

Also, I'm all ears to any unusual or personal suggestions or advice regarding solo introspective tripping - I feel I have a good handle on the general guidelines and basics of it, but would love to hear if anyone has some less-commom/unique tips etc that work for them!


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Invisiblechampinhom
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Re: First high dose solo [Re: Davethefaker]
    #22325781 - 10/02/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have done what you are contemplating a number of times. I'm not interested in the heroic dose antics of McKenna--take note that he actually got scared off this sort of thing himself. I take normally 3.5 at the most. I lie on my back on my bed with a blindfold over my eyes. Usually I listen to a podcast of a spiritual teacher I particularly like. I actually listen to podcasts back to back during the whole trip because I feel that is the reason I do this sort of thing, namely, to come to a deeper understanding of what this teacher is all about.

I don't listen to music, but I can see how that can certainly be useful.

The last time I did this, I spent the first hour and a half to two hours lying and listening. Then I got suddenly restless, got up, and started walking around. I began to feel anxious,physically uncomfortable. A little nauseous--not at all bad however--mainly because I did not eat any mushroom flesh, I merely boiled the cut up mushrooms in lemon water for several minutes, let the results steep for 20 mins, strained out the flesh, squeezed the remains to get all the juice I could from them, discarded them and drank the lemony liquid. That is what I would advise you to do, by the way. Make tea of your truffles. If you eat them, you are courting nausea. But maybe you have a better stomach than I.

Anyway, I was feeling bad. I finally wound up on the floor, kneeling with my head on the rug  wondering why I had done this to myself. Well, this passed, as I knew it would. I got back on the bed and resumed my podcast. Things went well for the rest of the trip.

I would advise you to use ginger tea rather than chamomile. Even eat a piece of raw ginger, if you can stand it, just to settle your stomach and help with any nausea that might come by for a visit. 6 drops of lemon essential oil in the ginger tea would also be very good for nausea.

I congratulate you on your attitude. So many around here think of nothing but getting as shitfaced as possible and seeing colors.


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InvisibleLSDollar
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Re: First high dose solo [Re: champinhom]
    #22325863 - 10/02/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do it, i love solo high doses. I enjoy a level 4+ trip by myself, stuff is morphing, and i am just tripping balls.

I cant take a huge dose and trip with my main side kick, one of my buddys we can take high doses and be good. I dont trip with him often though, so i am solo.

I would suggest, eat 15g of the truffles, then take the other 10 60-90 minutes later though, to gauge the effects.

I had same problem with truffles, i took a 15g bag and felt like i took 1.5 of cubes. The next 15g bag i felt like i took 3g cubes, they varry in their strength. I took roughly 20-25g truffles, i made a tea with two 15g bags, and drank 2/3 of the liquid and had a good level 4 trip by myself. I wasted the other 1/3, but i got what i was aiming for.


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InvisibleDavethefaker
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Re: First high dose solo [Re: champinhom]
    #22326558 - 10/03/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks man. I've never made tea with them, always worry I'll lose some psylicybin by overheating them. But haven'thad nausea before. Good idea with the ginger, I'll probably make a condensed tea to drink as I take them and have the chamomile earlier.


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Re: First high dose solo [Re: LSDollar]
    #22326562 - 10/03/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I was considering splitting get the dose, but concerned about tolerance - how long do I havebefore it merely prolongs the trip rather than increases the intensity? Would tea be easier for this, as it would kick in quicker if I do redose?


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Invisiblechampinhom
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Re: First high dose solo [Re: Davethefaker]
    #22327612 - 10/03/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have never done the split dose thing. I do know that tea brings things on faster.


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Cut back the proliferating list of people whose opinions can hurt you. Unless they have done or want to do you some good, their views are just not worth tracking.
Saul Bellow

“People are just cannibals unless they leave each other alone.” Doris Lessing

Those whom the gods would save, they dower with compassion. Mr. P.  Silocybin


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