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Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: 5
#22324540 - 10/02/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pure democracy doesn't work.
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Giftofdeprivation
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22324544 - 10/02/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not yet. That takes a level of broader consciousness that people just aren't ready for. Someone has to be at the helm.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: Giftofdeprivation] 1
#22324669 - 10/02/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Giftofdeprivation said: Not yet. That takes a level of broader consciousness that people just aren't ready for. Someone has to be at the helm.
Not someONE. An educated group of people.
I like Plato's conception of a Philosopher king, actually. A guy who doesn't even want to be king, but they make him king and ask him questions and he begrudgingly gives them answers. But then, also a large group of advisers who are all experts in their fields of study- scientists, historians, lawyers, philosophers, etc. These are the people who should be in charge, and none of them should really want to be in charge.
For me, being an admin of this group is not something I really enjoy. I think about quitting all the time. But then I think, someone needs to do it. The group is going to be there whether people like me are in charge or not. And without people like me- who know what the fuck they are doing and talking about- the group will be a disaster and people will be even more retarded than they already are, which is pretty damn retarded.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22324680 - 10/02/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Man, I don't envy you. That would be a job to admin that many people. Is it a cool group?
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22324691 - 10/02/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said:
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Giftofdeprivation said: Not yet. That takes a level of broader consciousness that people just aren't ready for. Someone has to be at the helm.
Not someONE. An educated group of people.
That's even worse
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22324739 - 10/02/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said:
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Giftofdeprivation said: Not yet. That takes a level of broader consciousness that people just aren't ready for. Someone has to be at the helm.
Not someONE. An educated group of people.
I like Plato's conception of a Philosopher kind, actually. A guy who doesn't even want to be king, but they make him king and ask him questions and he begrudgingly gives them answers. But then, also a large group of advisers who are all experts in their fields of study- scientists, historians, lawyers, philosophers, etc. These are the people who should be in charge, and none of them should really want to be in charge.
For me, being an admin of this group is not something I really enjoy. I think about quitting all the time. But then I think, someone needs to do it. The group is going to be there whether people like me are in charge or not. And without people like me- who know what the fuck they are doing and talking about- the group will be a disaster and people will be even more retarded than they already are, which is pretty damn retarded.
Republic, yes! Even the serfs deserve a say, however, even if it is worth significantly less than a philosopher king/queens. If you think about it, that's kind of what we have now (in America at least, I'm fairly ignorant to foreign politics). How much value to the process does your vote hold, really? Though, it'd be much better if everyone has equal say throughout the process, because the most influential ideas will rise to the top of the herd naturally and that would promote more diverse perspectives. idk, man...
And I like what you are saying about self interest for leaders. If not that, then an extreme amount of regulation for said self interest from the bottom up.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: Giftofdeprivation] 3
#22324913 - 10/02/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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We don't have that in America. We have a Republic, but the leads aren't philosophers. Maybe they were for like the first 50-100 years of the country's existence. Ever since they industrial revolution they are largely just corporate puppets.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22324933 - 10/02/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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How do you moderate 30000 people? What group is this? 0How much time does it take you? What kind of shit do you have to deal with?
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22324953 - 10/02/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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AI's will be our best leaders
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: Patlal]
#22324963 - 10/02/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Naww adminning large facebook groups usually is easy particularly if you have several admins.
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Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson:
Pure democracy doesn't work.
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#22324974 - 10/02/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: We don't have that in America. We have a Republic, but the leads aren't philosophers. Maybe they were for like the first 50-100 years of the country's existence. Ever since they industrial revolution they are largely just corporate puppets.
It's an allegory of a republic, lol (re: Plato's Republic). I was referencing Plato. The philosopher kings and queens are the more intelligent people you were referring to (or the representatives that I am suggesting America has), not actually philosophers (though Plato DID think they were philosophers, because he thought of that as the highest form of employ, of course, lol), that's not usually how his works are interpreted today.
Back to my original point, I don't think the representatives today have a broad and diverse perspective. They have self interest and a political mindset. We need a plumber in office.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: Asante]
#22324996 - 10/02/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Naww adminning large facebook groups usually is easy particularly if you have several admins.
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Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson:
Pure democracy doesn't work.
+1
We have 98 admins but most of them don't do shit. Only like 10 of us actually do anything.
It is the group "Philosophy" on facebook. It takes as much or as little time as I want to put into it, really. I probably spend 1-2 hours a day on there posting and adminning, and having discussions in the Admin group about shit we are planning on doing to improve the group that it seems like we never actually do. These guys are too soft. They never ban anybody, not even for like, straight up posting PORN on the page. They will kick them for a while. They get mad if I ban people. They have a thread on the admin page where we are supposed to post names of people we are "considering for banning" and post arguments about why they should be banned and all this shit, it's ridiculous. There are 33,000 people. There is a new thread every 3-4 minutes, and we don't have time to be discussing all this bullshit about whether or not someone who posts PORN deserves to be banned from a fucking PHILOSOPHY group. Of course they deserve to be banned.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22325014 - 10/02/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sure you love Ray-Ban by now.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22325141 - 10/02/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is the group called texas vegans?
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#22325188 - 10/02/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vegans are a food group in Texas
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#22325343 - 10/02/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: zappaisgod]
#22325497 - 10/02/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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wtf I am not even a vegan where are you guys getting this stuff from
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22325518 - 10/02/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fucked if I know. I ws just replying to Asante.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: zappaisgod]
#22325563 - 10/02/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: You obviously already know in your heart that not eating cows, chickens, pigs, and most other sentient things or using their products is wrong. If you want to stop doing, you can stop doing it. If you don't want to do what you already know is right, then don't. The choice is yours.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: jahrastafareye]
#22325570 - 10/02/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am a pescatarian. I said MOST other sentient things.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22325576 - 10/02/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I am a pescatarian. I said MOST other sentient things.
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#22325592 - 10/02/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dont care what your zodiac sign is.
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#22325805 - 10/02/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude, you love to brag about everything. Look at me guys, im a cool intellectual college grad. Oh, and did I tell you about my cool facebook group?
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: danielx]
#22326067 - 10/02/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck philosophers, most philosophy majors i met in college were retarded. they suck. engineers should be in charge. pragmatism is needed in a limited world with seemingly infinite choices.
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#22327519 - 10/03/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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danielx said: dude, you love to brag about everything. Look at me guys, im a cool intellectual college grad. Oh, and did I tell you about my cool facebook group?

Or maybe I am just talking about my fucking life life. Sorry if there is nothing worth talking about happening in yours
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#22328419 - 10/03/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nah, you come off as arrogant all the time with your look at me attitude. You feel above everyone else; I always cringe when I read your posts. I'm sure you are compensating for something and have an extremely low self esteem. Hopefully this is just your online persona and aren't really this obnoxious in real life
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: danielx]
#22328576 - 10/03/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was kinda turned off when I was referencing Plato's Republic (which he had brought up), and it was clear that it completely went over his head. Philosophy posers, LOL!
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22329115 - 10/03/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Pure democracy doesn't work.
totalitarianism does though
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#22329247 - 10/03/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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whats the group about n can u post about meds,sex(no image) and knives or guns(no images)
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: shadow treez]
#22329264 - 10/03/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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shadow treez said: whats the group about n can u post about meds,sex(no image) and knives or guns(no images)
Youre talking about OTD - off topic discussion
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/6
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22329326 - 10/03/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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morrowasted said: Pure democracy doesn't work.
totalitarianism does though
Communism, for the win.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: danielx]
#22329361 - 10/03/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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danielx said: Nah, you come off as arrogant all the time with your look at me attitude. You feel above everyone else; I always cringe when I read your posts. I'm sure you are compensating for something and have an extremely low self esteem. Hopefully this is just your online persona and aren't really this obnoxious in real life 
You have no idea how I feel. I can't apologize for the fact that having ideas, events, and life circumstances worth talking about comes across as arrogance to you.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22330335 - 10/03/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not asking for an apology, just letting you know how you come off to the rest of the world. I know I'm not alone with these feelings considering that post is already at +5.
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: JvF]
#22331331 - 10/04/15 04:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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jfischer218 said:
Youre talking about OTD - off topic discussion
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/6
how was that off topic? i asked what his group was about, and I just saw thread right here the pub talikn about knives. and isnt the pup the place to talk about RC? Im new here so maybe im wrong, just askin
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Re: Being an administrator of a 30,000 member facebook group has taught me important lesson: [Re: morrowasted]
#22331342 - 10/04/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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As an administrator of this site I find no burden in my work. In fact it is my passion, and I am a passionate, passionate man. I would have it no other way..
Facebook...not so passionate..
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