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Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion
    #22324234 - 10/02/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Was found in the Jacques-Cartier Valley, directly on rotting wood & mosses, near birch trees and some other I don't know the name (will need help for this too, posted some pics).

Caps are between .8-2.3cm, hemispheric to convex, without umbo.

Very strong bluish and greenish reaction, gills very dark purple. Did not had the best spore print but looks like black-purple.

I'm 99% sure this is Psilocybe Quebecensis.









Any ideas?


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Psychonaut111]
    #22324306 - 10/02/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like a good ID to me.


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Psychonaut111]
    #22324571 - 10/02/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hey that's very cool I might be able help on the tree ID if you put up pictures of the leaves and bark

Looks like some blue mycelium!

You should leave all the caps on tinfoil under a cup overnight and try and get some good prints.

Check this out for some tree names to google as well

http://www.arboquebecium.com/en/trees-of-quebec/native-trees/


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22324663 - 10/02/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like an active Psilocybe to me. I have no idea on the species, though.


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: elprawn]
    #22324722 - 10/02/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybe caerulipes seems likely considering the size and habitat. I could be wrong and probably am...

They are within the habitat range


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Psilocybe_caerulipes_range_map.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-Cartier_National_Park#/media/File:Canada_Quebec_location_map_2.svg


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Psychonaut111]
    #22324750 - 10/02/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Compare with  (just copy and paste whole mess)

http://www.mycoquebec.org/bas.php?l=r&nom=Psilocybe quebecensis / Psilocybe du Québec&post=Psilocybe&gro=35&tag=Psilocybe quebecensis


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22324771 - 10/02/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Those are some fucking sharp pictures.


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #22324792 - 10/02/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Mycoquebec is an outstanding website.

Especially for anyone in the Northeast: Use the "noms latin"  index at the top, and use google translate if need be.....


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22324888 - 10/02/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:leafromp: f'n cool :takingnotes:


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Psychonaut111]
    #22324944 - 10/02/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nice find! Id say quebecensis for sure. The rhizomorphs and hemespherical cap seperate it from caerulipes plus location is obviously perfect for quebecensis. My only question is how come no scenery pictures!? The Jacques Cartier valley is outstandingly beautiful


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roy]
    #22325104 - 10/02/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Amazing yeah im not sure here on the ID, any chance it can get scoped?

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Those are some fucking sharp pictures.





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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Joust]
    #22325939 - 10/02/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:kimjongil:  Awesome find!


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: jet li]
    #22326952 - 10/03/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22327301 - 10/03/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Roger Wilco said:
Hey that's very cool I might be able help on the tree ID if you put up pictures of the leaves and bark

Looks like some blue mycelium!

You should leave all the caps on tinfoil under a cup overnight and try and get some good prints.

Check this out for some tree names to google as well

http://www.arboquebecium.com/en/trees-of-quebec/native-trees/




I totally forgot to put the trees pics sorry, I did not got the leaves though. Thanks for the link. I was not aware what making the print on tin foil, looks like a good idea, thus it work better? I always thought of a simple white paper.





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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22327343 - 10/03/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Compare with  (just copy and paste whole mess)

http://www.mycoquebec.org/bas.php?l=r&nom=Psilocybe quebecensis / Psilocybe du Québec&post=Psilocybe&gro=35&tag=Psilocybe quebecensis




Yes I actually saw them on this site as well before going there, after comparison I am even more certain this is Quebecensis, here's the actual link:

http://www.mycoquebec.org/bas.php?post=Psilocybe&l=r&nom=Psilocybe%20quebecensis%20/%20Psilocybe%20du%20Qu%C3%A9bec&tag=Psilocybe%20quebecensis&gro=35


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roy]
    #22327360 - 10/03/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nice find! Id say quebecensis for sure. The rhizomorphs and hemespherical cap seperate it from caerulipes plus location is obviously perfect for quebecensis. My only question is how come no scenery pictures!? The Jacques Cartier valley is outstandingly beautiful




Thanks, indeed it is beautiful, here some pictures.





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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Psychonaut111]
    #22327573 - 10/03/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome pictures! I need to get up there. Your pretty limited in trees up there, will be mostly yellow and paper birch balsam fir and red spruce with scattered maples, a typical boreal/northern hardwood forest transition. Looks like first picture of trees is a fir while the other 2 are yellow birch. Awesome stuff, I'm jealous.


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roy]
    #22328107 - 10/03/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Very cool,

As Roy said your photos are Balsam fir and Yellow Birch. it looked like yellow birch may be the substrate....Was it growing from the wood in this photo??

https://files.shroomery.org/files/15-40/381970960-IMG_20151001_154806.jpg

Foil is better for preservation than paper, and should be virtually sterile. It's  also easier to get spores off aluminum foil than paper, and wont be as moisture sensitive as paper.

Paper works great for ID purposes, foil is better for everything else including storage.


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22329525 - 10/03/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Very cool,

As Roy said your photos are Balsam fir and Yellow Birch. it looked like yellow birch may be the substrate....Was it growing from the wood in this photo??

https://files.shroomery.org/files/15-40/381970960-IMG_20151001_154806.jpg

Foil is better for preservation than paper, and should be virtually sterile. It's  also easier to get spores off aluminum foil than paper, and wont be as moisture sensitive as paper.

Paper works great for ID purposes, foil is better for everything else including storage.




Yes directly on wood and moss, but not on birch wood, the birch was only nearby.


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Psychonaut111]
    #22329586 - 10/03/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The plot thickens.....

Thanks for showing us your awesome find!

If you ever pin down the species of wood this was growing on, come back and let us know, or if needed give us some photos with bark and leaves.

Cheers.


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Roger Wilco]
    #22329663 - 10/03/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Good find. Looks legit to me. Definitely print and clone it.


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Handslikehouses]
    #22330017 - 10/03/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That is a very nice looking mushroom


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    #25641444 - 11/26/18 09:49 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Update:  Psilocybe quebecensis is synonymous with P. aztecorum, and the name P. aztecorum is 10 years older so it takes precedence.

DNA sequences of the holotype of Psilocybe quebecensis and my collection from Mexico match 100%: MF828582 vs MH858936


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #25641774 - 11/27/18 03:27 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Update:  Psilocybe quebecensis is synonymous with P. aztecorum, and the name P. aztecorum is 10 years older so it takes precedence.

DNA sequences of the holotype of Psilocybe quebecensis and my collection from Mexico match 100%: MF828582 vs MH858936




Ah, cool, since there's already a discussion on this relationship in "The Genus Psilocybe", which also includes P. baeocystis.
How close is the latter one connected to P. aztecorum?


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Anglerfish]
    #25664307 - 12/07/18 06:43 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

I'm interested as well.

I've got both P quebecensis/aztecorum culture as well as P baeocystis. The aztecorum produces rhizo growth and looks similar to the cyanescens complex mycelium. However, baeos myc is very whispy and light growth. Rhizo growth is visible as well but much weaker looking. Just what I'm observing..


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Re: Psilocybe quebecensis? Need 2nd opinion [Re: Astoriensis]
    #25666744 - 12/08/18 09:58 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

As Astoriensis noticed, aztecorum and baeocystis aren't close at all.  Aztecorum is near serbica and cyanescens,  while baeocystis is on the other side of the genus, near semilanceata.


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