Home | Community | Message Board

MushroomMan Mycology
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineThanatos10
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/19/15
Posts: 2,770
Loc: South Florida
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
Relationships
    #22324070 - 10/02/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm mostly referring to the romantic sort this time.

For those of you in one, what is it like? How did you meet? How could you tell you wanted to be with this person? I want to understand the reason people decide to enter into this sort of thing.


--------------------
As lightless oblivion devours you, drown in the ever-blooming darkness.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblezZZz
jesus
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 33,478
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22324170 - 10/02/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Same here, :threadmonitor:


--------------------
https://discord.gg/NHHd5y2Uyv


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDividedQuantumM
Outer Head
Male User Gallery

Registered: 12/06/13
Posts: 9,819
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22324429 - 10/02/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

I want to understand the reason people decide to enter into this sort of thing.




At least for me, whenever I happened to be in the type of situation you describe it was due to a temporary insanity.  Which is, of course, not to decry relationships.


--------------------
Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecez
 User Gallery
Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 5,854
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22324501 - 10/02/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think you are not going to understand these reasons through this medium because you are asking questions based on emotional connections between lover and beloved and emotion is illogical.


If you really care to understand, you'll go out into the world and put yourself in a vulnerable position and see what happens.  You're slowly showing us you're not as tough as you try to argue you are so I hope you try to understand this for yourself someday.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThanatos10
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/19/15
Posts: 2,770
Loc: South Florida
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
Re: Relationships [Re: cez]
    #22324515 - 10/02/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

But if it's illogical then why do people do it?


--------------------
As lightless oblivion devours you, drown in the ever-blooming darkness.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDividedQuantumM
Outer Head
Male User Gallery

Registered: 12/06/13
Posts: 9,819
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22324546 - 10/02/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Thanatos10 said:
But if it's illogical then why do people do it?




You kidding?  Isn't most human behavior totally illogical?  It is quite illogical in itself to say that people won't do things because they are illogical.


--------------------
Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThanatos10
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/19/15
Posts: 2,770
Loc: South Florida
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
Re: Relationships [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22324591 - 10/02/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think so. I just don't understand why people are so obsessed over it. Is it just because they want to justify those initial feelings of lust and passion? Or is it simply for companionship? Isn't it a liability


--------------------
As lightless oblivion devours you, drown in the ever-blooming darkness.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecez
 User Gallery
Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 5,854
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22324610 - 10/02/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Companionship.  You aren't mature enough to understand yet imo because you've admitted in another post that you haven't come to terms with your sexuality.

When you embrace yourself, I imagine you will attempt to embrace others.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThanatos10
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/19/15
Posts: 2,770
Loc: South Florida
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
Re: Relationships [Re: cez]
    #22324709 - 10/02/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

cez said:
Companionship.  You aren't mature enough to understand yet imo because you've admitted in another post that you haven't come to terms with your sexuality.

When you embrace yourself, I imagine you will attempt to embrace others.




Actually I got over that already. I just accepted it as something that is, nothing more.


--------------------
As lightless oblivion devours you, drown in the ever-blooming darkness.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecez
 User Gallery
Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 5,854
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22324726 - 10/02/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How is it possible for someone who is gay, who honestly wants to love another man, but at the same time find the entire notion "wrong"?

Your op...So you accepted that it's wrong and that it just is?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThanatos10
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/19/15
Posts: 2,770
Loc: South Florida
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
Re: Relationships [Re: cez]
    #22324790 - 10/02/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No, not that it's wrong. It's just something that is. Nothing right or wrong about it.


--------------------
As lightless oblivion devours you, drown in the ever-blooming darkness.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineThanatos10
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/19/15
Posts: 2,770
Loc: South Florida
Last seen: 3 years, 8 months
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22325680 - 10/02/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Also I don't think it's a matter of maturity. For some people a relationship is just dead weight. My past relationships felt that way.


--------------------
As lightless oblivion devours you, drown in the ever-blooming darkness.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblecez
 User Gallery
Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 5,854
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22326260 - 10/02/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Your past relationships were in conflict with your true desires if we go back to your op in the other thread so that might be why they felt like dead weight.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBrendanFlock
Stranger
Male

Registered: 06/01/13
Posts: 4,216
Last seen: 1 day, 17 minutes
Re: Relationships [Re: cez]
    #22338315 - 10/05/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have a few reasons..

Things naturally flow when you have things in common or that each person finds something appealing about the other..could be extreme sexual attraction...a certain peace of mind achieved by interacting with the person..Could be an epitome of an ideal that someone holds(Gold in alchemy) like the archetype of the Hero or Heroin(not necessarily the drug unless that appeals to one or more of the parties involved..: LOL). Maybe one person is in a powerful position..A messiah in control of deep psychic forces..or maybe it is the complete Opposite..sometimes people fall for the evil side of a person in that it is a Villain archetype..or maybe someone who abuses their power...

Most of time there is a reason for the attraction..you can always speculate on why people are together..and see if you can find the logic...Sometimes its just for the benefits that come with being with someone..could be sex or riches for example...as a way of making one of their lives easier to live..


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDividedQuantumM
Outer Head
Male User Gallery

Registered: 12/06/13
Posts: 9,819
Re: Relationships [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #22338569 - 10/05/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Could you expand upon what you mean by "A messiah in control of deep psychic forces"?  This is intriguing to me...


--------------------
Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTropism
ChasingTail


Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 2,039
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22339293 - 10/06/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Thanatos10 said:
But if it's illogical then why do people do it?




It's nice to go to sleep and wake up with someone, for starters.

Quote:

Thanatos10 said:
Also I don't think it's a matter of maturity. For some people a relationship is just dead weight. My past relationships felt that way.




Relationships, alike life, only give back what is put in.
Some of the best sex-advice I ever got was "You're only as good as your partner", and I think this stands analogously as relationship advice as well.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinecircastes
Big Questions Small Head
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/14/10
Posts: 8,781
Loc: straya Flag
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
Re: Relationships [Re: Tropism]
    #22339623 - 10/06/15 03:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I feel so alone in bed at night.

Got mah eyes on two chicks in town at the moment.  :bigkiss2:


--------------------
My solitude...
My shield...
My armour...

TESTED
WITH
FULL
FORCE


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTropism
ChasingTail


Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 2,039
Re: Relationships [Re: circastes]
    #22341108 - 10/06/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I hope at least one has their eye on you. :awesome:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKickleM
Wanderer
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 17,856
Last seen: 34 minutes, 23 seconds
Re: Relationships [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22346747 - 10/07/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Thanatos10 said:
I'm mostly referring to the romantic sort this time.

For those of you in one, what is it like? How did you meet? How could you tell you wanted to be with this person? I want to understand the reason people decide to enter into this sort of thing.




Huh. What is it like as compared to...? Being single? Well the dynamic involves two people instead of one. The nature of that dynamic seems to be dependent on the two people involved. Heck sometimes it involves more than two people. For me that usually means I try to be conscientious of the other persons' needs. Emotional, physical, spiritual. Note that I say conscientious of but do not say responsible for. At the end of the day it's a solo journey.

How could I tell that I wanted to be with her? Well physical attraction initially. I was young and on the prowl. I had my sights on several women and pursued all of them. Timing along with circumstances lent towards me spending far more time with her than others. And it was enjoyable. Over time as I came to know her better, trust settled in. After trust, deeper engagement. After deeper engagement, more trust. And eventually the relationships with others started to pale in comparison and so they were dropped.

Many of our core values align, e.g. no kids. And over the years there have been many mutual benefits. Financial as well as emotional and spiritual. Much of what I have learned from her, over time, is what she came with from her upbringing. And while some is useful, some is not. And similarly true in that way is what I bring. So over time we have cherry picked what works from one anothers' offering and created something more versatile than before for ourselves. IME a relationship is as much a learning experience as anything.

And I've remained thus far because of the many benefits and seldom downsides. The biggest downside is when my physical libido gets rearing and I want to go mate with someone else. Biology has it's role there and isn't something I think should be denied. Not necessarily acted upon either. But acknowledged and addressed in some manner. Being in a single-partner relationship requires, as with all things I have found in life, some navigating of pushes and pulls. But a good relationship is like a good work environment in that it is fulfilling, rewarding, and engaging.


--------------------
Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleJokeshopbeard
Humble Student

Registered: 11/30/11
Posts: 26,088
Loc: Deep in the system Flag
Re: Relationships [Re: Kickle]
    #22347000 - 10/07/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Amazing post Kickle, I think you sum the whole thing up beautifully. I particularly like this bit:

Quote:

Kickle said:
So over time we have cherry picked what works from one anothers' offering and created something more versatile than before for ourselves.



How many years were you guys together before this phenomenon starting to become noticable?


Quote:

Kickle said:
The biggest downside is when my physical libido gets rearing and I want to go mate with someone else.



I empathise with you very deeply in this regard, this is always the biggest kicker for me. I had to go through quite a process after getting married and committing myself to the same mate for the rest of my life!!


--------------------
Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Paris Attacks *DELETED*
( 1 2 3 4 ... 26 27 )
White Beard 26,578 527 12/17/15 05:13 AM
by eehoo
* The relationship between drugs and religion manna_man 2,236 10 04/28/23 04:00 PM
by Cory Duchesne
* Can a relationship last in modern society?
( 1 2 all )
Randolph_Carter 4,216 37 02/16/04 03:51 PM
by Kremlin
* Relationships SkorpivoMusterion 1,511 17 11/14/04 07:40 PM
by SkorpivoMusterion
* Are relationships selfish?
( 1 2 3 all )
silversoul7 5,514 54 08/20/04 06:39 PM
by Mad_Buhdda_Abuser
* human beings. the perfect machine.
( 1 2 all )
faelr 3,083 37 04/26/04 02:43 AM
by Strumpling
* what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
( 1 2 3 all )
crunchytoast 2,429 40 09/20/05 12:05 PM
by qhr0me
* perfect moments themagicman 1,067 11 12/15/03 11:43 AM
by thePatient

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
1,338 topic views. 0 members, 13 guests and 4 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.033 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 16 queries.