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InvisibleMrGiraffe

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Indoor Wine Caps round 2
    #22323935 - 10/02/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

A few months back I posted up about my little indoor wine cap grow.  I found the post but it wouldn't let me bump it so I'm starting a new one.  I used an 'AM4' LC syringe I got in a trade to inoculate some whole oat bags. 

At full colonization I mixed them in with hardwood mulch from Lowe's.  The store brand <$3 bag stuff.  3 bags or 6cuft




I soaked in lime water for 24 hours, then drained for 24 hours in these 27g totes (also from Lowe's).



These things are sweet.  I was able to put 3cuft in with room to spare for soaking.  Also the lid snaps on pretty good so I was able to tilt it to dump most of the water and then lean it at an angle against the house to make sure it would fully drain with no puddles left in the bottom.

1 bag (about 7 quarts) of spawn in each tote.  Was kind of a pita to mix in the tub.  A 3rd tub to do the dump and mix back and forth or a kiddie pool would have been easier.
This is how they're coming along today.



I wont use all 6cuft for indoor fruiting.  Im going to use a lot of it to mix in with the mulch I'll use on the new chicken run.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: MrGiraffe]
    #22324202 - 10/02/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Cool dude. :hairmetal:


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: poofterFroth]
    #22324436 - 10/02/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i'd call it a stropharium but paul stamets would come hold the website for ransom :p


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: drake89]
    #22324634 - 10/02/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: Jim Morrison]
    #22324827 - 10/02/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

looking good! Never seen mulch with a lime bath but seems to be working well! Willing to trade cultures? PM me if interested.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: Gr0wer]
    #22324874 - 10/02/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

try a microbe rich casing (dirt) to stimulate fruiting.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: t3chnobily]
    #22325671 - 10/02/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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looking good! Never seen mulch with a lime bath but seems to be working well! Willing to trade cultures? PM me if interested.




Last time I don't think I did anything but soak the mulch and it colonized just fine.  This time I had some lime on hand so tossed it in.

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try a microbe rich casing (dirt) to stimulate fruiting.




Gonna do just like I did last winter, dirt and leaf litter from out in the back yard.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: MrGiraffe]
    #22333117 - 10/04/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh man! I'm following this thread. I'm excited to see results. How much were those bins? Would you be able to use a regular tote to the same effect?


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #22333214 - 10/04/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Usually about $14, I think they might be on sale for $11 right now.  Last time I incubated the woodchips with in a trash bag and then dumped it in a small clear tote and covered with soil and leaf litter from outside with a few strawberry plants.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: MrGiraffe]
    #22333348 - 10/04/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

And that fruited indoors just fine? Did it require a lot of FAE?


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #22333630 - 10/04/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yep, after a few weeks I watered thebstrawberries heavy and they fruited. I can do reishi, lions mane, shiitake and winecap no problem in my basement but oysters always come out stemmy from not enough FAE.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: MrGiraffe]
    #22333763 - 10/04/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

That's pretty awesome. I'm excited to do some Stropharia totes, my pal kept telling me it couldn't be done, I'm excited to clear up some misinformation!


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #22351138 - 10/08/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I want to try 5 18 gallon totes of indoor Stropharia beds, what kind of yield are you getting from your indoor totes?


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InvisibleMrGiraffe

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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #22351687 - 10/08/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Never weighed it last year when I did them.  Probably had about 2cuft worth of mulch in the container and got about 3 nice flushes.  The third happened while I was out of town so I came home to a tote full of past prime mushrooms.  This is the first time In trying it on a larger scale.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: MrGiraffe]
    #22364055 - 10/11/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've got 2 18 gallon totes full of hardwood bark mulch, lime and water. How much lime did you use? I used 2 cups per tote.

I have 5 18 gallon totes I'm going to use about 1.5 cu ft per tote in, which will fill them under half way. I'm excited to see how these will do!


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: MrGiraffe]
    #22364126 - 10/11/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Would give you :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2: if I could.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: MrGiraffe]
    #22364249 - 10/11/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How decomposed is the leaf litter?  Pics if you can?
Is there an advantage to mulch over sawdust?  I'd think sawdust would be easier to digest.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: invitro]
    #22364936 - 10/11/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Stropharia will eat sawdust just as easily, I'm going to be doing 10 bags of sawdust to spawn to totes of mulch. My best guess is that they get more nutrition from the mulch which is why people prefer to spawn Stropharia to mulch, so you get larger, more nutrient dense fruits.


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Re: Indoor Wine Caps round 2 [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #22365234 - 10/11/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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TheBeardedNerd said:
I've got 2 18 gallon totes full of hardwood bark mulch, lime and water. How much lime did you use? I used 2 cups per tote.

I have 5 18 gallon totes I'm going to use about 1.5 cu ft per tote in, which will fill them under half way. I'm excited to see how these will do!




I didn't really measure, it was some left over pickling lime.  It was probably a cup or so per 27gallon tote.


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How decomposed is the leaf litter?  Pics if you can?
Is there an advantage to mulch over sawdust?  I'd think sawdust would be easier to digest.




Check out the pics in the top link from my previous indoor grow.  It was a mixture of some dirt, partially decomposed leaf litter and even some whole leaves.

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Stropharia will eat sawdust just as easily, I'm going to be doing 10 bags of sawdust to spawn to totes of mulch. My best guess is that they get more nutrition from the mulch which is why people prefer to spawn Stropharia to mulch, so you get larger, more nutrient dense fruits.




I reckon you could do sawdust, but the few times I've tried to do them in sawdust in bags they seem to stall.  The times I went grain to soaked mulch they ran through it like no bodies business.  I mixed my totes yesterday and they were basically fully colonized.  The tops didn't look much different than the pic from 9 days ago, but when I dug in it was all colonized so not sure when it actually finished.  I'll give them a little while to consolidate.  The dark mulch will start taking on a lighter color.


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