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Mycorrhizal fungi
#22322541 - 10/02/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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really not sure what forum this goes under but I subscribe to a show on youtube called the allotment garden and Sean is trying out a product called fungi magic, who's mycellium forms a symbiotic relationship with your plants root system
(fast forward 8 minutes in)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A9TMADM/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00A9TMADM&linkCode=as2&tag=whsoninth-21
this is the product page on amazon.
Have any of you heard of it before? What's it like?
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Toadstool5
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It sounds like another mixture of endomycorrhizal fungi.
There are many brands available and they all have different ratios and species so I can't comment for his but the ones I have used in the past really seemed to help the plants with nutrient uptake.
The difference is comparable to having a balanced pH and having acidic soil. You don't need to use mycorrhizal fungi but you won't be disappointed if you do 
Aside from nutrient uptake I have heard good things about water uptake and drought-tolerance too but I have never tried seeing if it was true.
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also, removal of heavy metal, oxidative and other toxicity
protection against certain parasites
there's over 200 pages in a pubmed search
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Mycorrhizal
all i know is i see it popping up all the time
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drake89
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Re: Mycorrhizal fungi [Re: micro]
#22323513 - 10/02/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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most plants can't live without mycorhizae. So i'd say it's important. but not annuals.
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Re: Mycorrhizal fungi [Re: drake89]
#22323516 - 10/02/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it really gets my goat when people go off about how wine caps are really helping them grow more of (x) crop.
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Re: Mycorrhizal fungi [Re: drake89]
#22336147 - 10/05/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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wine caps? FOrgive me for sounding naive, but all I can think of is corks from wine bottles. Does yeast help plants?
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Toadstool5
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I think he means the wine cap mushroom.
Stropharia Rugosoannulata has been shown to be mildly mycorrhizal but people typically over-exaggerate the results they get with a lot of these after-market mycorrhizal innoculants and outdoor beds of mushrooms.
You hear guys say it tripled or quadrupled their yields but in all reality there's no way it would help that much. It is beneficial and a HUGE part of healthy soil but it is not some miracle drug. 
Yeast probably wouldn't benefit plants much. Root membranes die if overexposed to ethanol and other alcohols. I'm not really sure though, nobody I know has ever looked into the relationship.
Some species of yeast do generate useful hormones though:
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Abstract Compared with bacteria and mycorrhizal fungi, the potential to use yeasts as plant growth promoting agents has been under-exploited. We investigated the ability of the soil yeast Candida tropicalis HY (CtHY) to stimulate rice seedling growth and some of the possible mechanisms by which plant interaction may occur. Laboratory culture experiments found that CtHY produces small quantities of indole acetic acid (IAA), but grows rapidly on aminocyclopropane-1-carboxylate (ACC) as a sole source of nitrogen, indicative of high ACC deaminase activity. The strain also tested positive for polyamine and phytase production, and mobilized phosphate from insoluble tri-calcium phosphate. CtHY rapidly colonized the roots of rice seedlings and maintained high numbers for at least 3 weeks, increasing the dry weight of inoculated roots by 16–35% compared to non-inoculated control seedlings. These results validate the inclusion of CtHY in the commercial biofertiliser product BioGro, which has previously been demonstrated to increase the nutrition, growth and yield of paddy rice.
- Khanok-on Amprayn, Michael T. Rose, Mihály Kecskés, Lily Pereg, Hien Thanh Nguyen, Ivan R. Kennedy
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