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Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms?
    #22321953 - 10/02/15 01:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms??
please tell me i really need to know this!!
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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22321958 - 10/02/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's speculation that lemon-tekking even works at all. However, if it indeed DOES work to produce more profound and/or quicker effects of the shrooms, it will work for either dried or wet shrooms :smile:


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: ApexNightmare]
    #22321968 - 10/02/15 01:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Are you sure?I have a small amount of shrroms and i think they will only work with a perfectly done lemon tek.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22321980 - 10/02/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How small of a dose are we talking here?


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: ApexNightmare]
    #22321983 - 10/02/15 01:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't count them but less than 40 panaelous cinctulus.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22321993 - 10/02/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Those don't contain any psilocin, sop I'm not sure lemon-tekking, even in theory, would do anything to help the trip. Weigh them. Take what you see fit.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: ApexNightmare]
    #22322000 - 10/02/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Actually... i also have a few liberty caps ut im not 100% sure if theyre all it but so i guess ill just give it a try and see
But how many pan cits are theoretically needed to make you high? like 50?


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22322003 - 10/02/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Weight is everything. Quantity of shrooms means nothing.

Also, if you're not sure if they are legit or not. Do NOT take them.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22322045 - 10/02/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Believe it or not, the lemon tek works better with fresh shrooms than dried.

Thats because the shrooms are already wet. Just blend in a blender. Note: it will be chunky and nasty.

Many believe the acidic acid in lemon juice help to "process" the shrooms for easier absorbtion by thestomach.

As my bud Apex stated, its a controversial subject if the lemon tek really works better than a tea.

I can saay from experience from using pulpy orange juice that shots of shroom powder with orange juice is delicous! And the come up is pretty damn fast.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22322062 - 10/02/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

okay thanks!!,but what do you mean by "Those don't contain any psilocin,"...?


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22322069 - 10/02/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, if I remember correctly, the idea is that the acidity of the lemon is supposed to help break down the psilocin into psilocybin quicker, and that is what makes you trip faster/harder/whatever. If there is no psilocin to break down, then there is no point to adding the lemon juice.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: ApexNightmare]
    #22322136 - 10/02/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

3 active chemicals.
Psilocin
Psilocybin
Baeocystin

All levels differ from different strains.

Pan cinctulus are unique for they are one of the only active mushrooms to not contain Psilocin.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22322144 - 10/02/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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3 active chemicals.
Psilocin
Psilocybin
Baeocystin

All levels differ from different strains.

Pan cinctulus are unique for they are one of the only active mushrooms to not contain Psilocin.




If it doesn't contain psilocin then a lemon tek is a waste of time. If act taking them is a waste of time if theyre not active


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #22322157 - 10/02/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why is there still controversy around lemon tek? It seems like an easy enough experiment to determine for sure, especially if people have the ability to calculate the different alkaloids


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #22322231 - 10/02/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

so Pan cinctulus contains Psilocybin?


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22322263 - 10/02/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Psilocybin breaks down into Psilocin once it's in your system. So saying it doesn't contain Psilocin is confusing to me. Maybe someone else can comment on that.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: Zytan]
    #22322328 - 10/02/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

When you grind up the mushrooms and add lemon juice, it helps to break down the cell walls, which allows your body to absorb the actives more quickly, and so allows them to concentrate in the brain more quickly leading to a higher peak in effects and a shorter duration.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: Zytan]
    #22322538 - 10/02/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Psilocybin breaks down into Psilocin once it's in your system. So saying it doesn't contain Psilocin is confusing to me. Maybe someone else can comment on that.




"Panaeolus cinctulus is not specifically scheduled in the United States.[citation needed] Panaeolus cinctulus has a long shelf life compared to other magic mushrooms, as it contains no psilocin, is non-poisonous, and the psycho-activity comes only from psilocybin and its analogues."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus_cinctulus

There was a pdf where mycologists analyzed its compounds,  and it states there is no Psilocin.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22322756 - 10/02/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Heres some basic info on Pan cint: http://www.shroomery.org/12484/Panaeolus-cinctulus

And the level/dosage chart is for dried, not wet. Wet is about 10x more heavy than dry.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22322795 - 10/02/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

pan cincts have psilocybin just like any other psilocybes...just less. The citric acid helps to convert the psilocybin to psilocin (the active compound that makes you trip)quicker...before your stomach acids would normally....it is supposed to help the onset of the trip be sooner and intensified yet not last as long.

It works great with fresh mushrooms as well as dried IME.:sunny::peace:


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22323154 - 10/02/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The citric acid helps to convert the psilocybin to psilocin (the active compound that makes you trip)quicker...before your stomach acids would normally....it is supposed to help the onset of the trip be sooner and intensified yet not last as long.

It works great with fresh mushrooms as well as dried IME.:sunny::peace:




You are misinformed. Psilocybin and psilocin are both active compounds.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: healing]
    #22323499 - 10/02/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I got a weed high but no success on tripping or visuals,just like last year.
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Will they contnue growing now durning october or will they shrink?


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: gent]
    #22323614 - 10/02/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Im about to tek 30 liberty caps, will report back.....

I ate 45 or so straight on tuesday night and 30 or so sunday though so tolerance might come into play, one shall have to wait and see.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: healing]
    #22323690 - 10/02/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The citric acid helps to convert the psilocybin to psilocin (the active compound that makes you trip)quicker...before your stomach acids would normally....it is supposed to help the onset of the trip be sooner and intensified yet not last as long.

It works great with fresh mushrooms as well as dried IME.:sunny::peace:




You are misinformed. Psilocybin and psilocin are both active compounds.



https://azarius.net/encyclopedia/71/Psilocin_and_psilocybin/

psilocybin is always converted to psilocin when ingested.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22323776 - 10/02/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You're still spreading misinformation.

https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml

This has all been discussed at length. Do a search and inform yourself.


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: thebitterbuffalo26]
    #22324034 - 10/02/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why is there still controversy around lemon tek? It seems like an easy enough experiment to determine for sure, especially if people have the ability to calculate the different alkaloids




Because as far as I know, there have been no scientific control studies  on lemon tek and psychedelics are notoriously difficult to judge subjectively.

I have so much difference between my trips, when taking the same dose of the same substance, that it makes it difficult to determine for certain how well lemon tek really works.

Also, I for instance have never tried just letting the mushrooms sit in water without lemon, so I have no bases for comparison. I definitely think lemon tek works faster and stronger than just eating mushrooms but the question remains how much is due to the lemon and how much is due to grinding them up?


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22326876 - 10/03/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Can confirm, LT works well with fresh liberty caps


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Re: Does lemon tek work with undried mushrooms? [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22330135 - 10/03/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What I meant was that since Psilocybin breaks down into Psilocin once it enters your system, it really doesnt matter if it doesn't have Psilocin to begin with. It would still be the broken down Psilocybin or Psilocin that you are tripping from. Just trying to be helpful. Other people are much more knowledgeable.


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