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ballsalsa
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Are false ideologies fucking us all around?
#22321834 - 10/02/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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did you watch it?
what did you think?
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: ballsalsa]
#22321854 - 10/02/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The hell is this thread about? THIS ISN'T NAM! THERE ARE RULES! 
maybe explain the video, premise relating to this sub, and your thoughts on it? Get that ball rolling as hard as I wish I was
Edit: Wish I were? Wish I was? your pick
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: Tropism]
#22321859 - 10/02/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread is about ineffective idea technology. the video is also about that topic. it is 20 min long. there isn't much to talk about until you watch the video
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: ballsalsa]
#22326145 - 10/02/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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you guys are gonna make me beg aren't you?
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: ballsalsa]
#22326253 - 10/02/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You posted a video and told us to watch it..If I want to watch a 20 minute video, I can do that without your help.
Maybe if you give us some background and your opinion of the argument within the video, someone will watch it.
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: cez]
#22326340 - 10/02/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i know that at least 2 people watched it, because i stalked them with the Who's Online function and monitored their watching of it. so there.
so you want a TL;DR for the video? fine, but now this thread is gonna be about the TL;DR instead of the video. see my dilemma?
The video is how bad ideas persist even when proven wrong, unlike bad technologies, which simply don't work and thus are abandoned. long story short, human nature is probably largely a learned behavior and not inherent at all.
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: ballsalsa]
#22338280 - 10/05/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well to give thinking some credit..a false ideology would either exist because a person can not think of something better..or a person holds them to have power over other people..
So in the first..its probably an extension of the amount we have evolved as thinking creatures...and the second type..these type of people to actually act that way are likely ignorant of some or various types of truths..both spiritual..and subjective..and the true nature of reality ultimately..
Oh yeah it could be that something terrible happened to them and they cant get over that type of powerful as far as emotionally and psychologically ideas go..but that they cant escape from the damage that was done to them..and so they can only interact or procreate these false Ideals/Idols..
Could be that they hold on to them as a shield or barrier because of fear from people who wish to control or hurt them
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#22338933 - 10/05/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The argument in the video is that many things that people hold as truth are actually the result of created conditions. like a self-fulfilling prophesy.
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? *DELETED* [Re: ballsalsa]
#22339556 - 10/06/15 02:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: Kurt]
#22340264 - 10/06/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Excellent commentary Kurt. I have always been intrigued by the distinction between "learned" and "natural" behavior.
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: ballsalsa]
#22341098 - 10/06/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: i know that at least 2 people watched it, because i stalked them with the Who's Online function and monitored their watching of it. so there.
so you want a TL;DR for the video? fine, but now this thread is gonna be about the TL;DR instead of the video. see my dilemma?
The video is how bad ideas persist even when proven wrong, unlike bad technologies, which simply don't work and thus are abandoned. long story short, human nature is probably largely a learned behavior and not inherent at all.
No i want you to follow forum rules, which is why I trolled you in the first place. Thankfully I was even kind enough to include the outline of what is needed to participate as an appropriately posted thread.
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The Fucking Rules say: 3) If you're going to post a link to a video or external web page, also please include a description of what the link is about and a proposed topic for discussion. Posts not conforming to this will be deleted.
Still didn't watch it though hope your days great
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Re: Are false ideologies fucking us all around? [Re: ballsalsa]
#22341457 - 10/06/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tech has the ability to be sold with little to no extra mental energy spent creating it. Moores law states that hardware will continue to get smaller over time because of new discoveries in science. One doesn't have to work too hard to escape the bubble of the vcr when someone else has discovered that you can put a film on a disc. Ideas are different. They are intangible and subtle and largely unconscious. If you can master getting people to change their ideas, though, you'll become much wealthier than those who deal in tech.
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