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OfflinePariahprose
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Kava Bars
    #22320476 - 10/01/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Have you ever been to one? What was the experience and ambience like? Did they serve strictly kava based teas, in general what were their menus like? Were their prices resonable?

The reason I ask these questions is because I have a dream of opening a kratom / kava bar that also has flavored oxygen. By answering, you will be greatly assisting me in the necessary information to make this a successful endeavor. I have never heard of a kratom den (or bar for that matter) only kava bars. I think a bar that serves teas w/ only kratom , only kava, or a combination of both  (maybe even teas w/ other herbal combinations as well) would be a unique niche and business opportunity.

Also, I would love you long time if you shared your kratom, kava, or other herbal tea recipes and a description / benefits. Sharing a legitimate recipe that sounds tasty will result in a five shroom rating :smile:

Thanks in advance :smile:


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Pariahprose] * 3
    #22320525 - 10/01/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I was trying to find a pocture of a bar full of hipsters, then trying to find a xoffee shop full of hipsters.

I couldnt find any but heres your main customer



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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Pariahprose]
    #22320530 - 10/01/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

you need an alternative/hippie type audience

the one i have been to would have lots of concerts and had the oxygen shit and also had some strong ass kava

they were also a cafe and had baked goods and shit


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: thelanzii]
    #22320723 - 10/01/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
you need an alternative/hippie type audience

the one i have been to would have lots of concerts and had the oxygen shit and also had some strong ass kava

they were also a cafe and had baked goods and shit




Ya, I'm wanting to sell food as well. I got a few unique ideas for food items because I don't want to sell the same crap people can get elsewhere.

Also, what would you recomend the age limit be? I was thinking 18 (possibly 17), granted, I would not serve alcohol and anyone suspected to be under the influence of alcohol would be promptly kicked out (alcohol would harsh the vibe IMO).


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Pariahprose]
    #22320867 - 10/01/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would make the age limit 18. That way you wouldn't have to worry about minors at all. It's a cool idea. I would hit up a kratom/kava bar.

As far as recipes, I just make tea out of kratom and it tastes awful.


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Pariahprose] * 1
    #22321008 - 10/01/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Leave kratom out of the equation. Things are already starting to look dicey for the legality of kratom, and all we need is more assholes selling it in a bar setting to douchers to push things in the wrong direction. Alot of people rely on kratom as a very important medicine, take that to heart please.

You will get ripped apart if you ask this on a kratom dedicated forum. I don't have much experience with kava though.

Just my $.02 although I'm sure you don't give a shit :shrug:


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22321025 - 10/01/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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4HO-DMT said:
I would make the age limit 18. That way you wouldn't have to worry about minors at all. It's a cool idea. I would hit up a kratom/kava bar.

As far as recipes, I just make tea out of kratom and it tastes awful.




Lol, ya, I know what you mean about kratom tea. I wonder what would negate out that taste.

Anyway, gonna give you five shrooms good sir since you were the first person in the thread to even mention kratom tea, especially it's awful taste, lol.


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: danielx]
    #22321100 - 10/01/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Leave kratom out of the equation. Things are already starting to look dicey for the legality of kratom, and all we need is more assholes selling it in a bar setting to douchers to push things in the wrong direction. Alot of people rely on kratom as a very important medicine, take that to heart please.

You will get ripped apart if you ask this on a kratom dedicated forum. I don't have much experience with kava though.

Just my $.02 although I'm sure you don't give a shit :shrug:




I do give a shit actually. I also take to heart what you say and realize that many people do rely on kratom as medicine, which is why I wouldn't want to just straight up serve it w/out providing information for consumers as to its many medicinal uses.

As for kratoms teadious legal status, its been on a watch list for years now. So far, it has overcome numerous attempts to ban it in various locations. Furthermore, I feel that factual education is one of the best solutions when it comes to keeping it legal.

I ask this respectfully danielx, but what good has shying away and not fighting for an herb done us thus far in society? Granted, I know that stoners have always fought for marijuana, but they did not have the advantage of the internet and social media to defend their cause and have others rally around them. As a society, as a community, but most importantly as individuals that value kratom as a medicine, there is an essential need for the public to be educated w/ facts and not propaganda.

Hell, there was even an episode of Dr. Phil that attacked both kratom and kava. You know what though? That episode was full of bull shit, lies, and propaganda. Ya, I get your point about ass holes trying to peddle kratom solely for profit, but that's not what my dream is about.

Check your rep btw danielx, you made an awesome point worthy of five shrooms and allowed me to better explain / elaborate on my intentions.


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Pariahprose]
    #22321195 - 10/01/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for your response. My inherent problem is with anyone who sells kratom for consumption. I think some of the gas station/headshop mixes that talk about it being a 'legal high' are some of the worst offenders.

You can give accurate, bias free information all you want, but when you start selling it for consumption purpose the propagandist will come in and put their spin on things (eg Dr Phil show).

I saw the same thing happen with poppy pods. They were always in a legal gtey area, but I remember when you could buy pods on eBay. All it took was some dumb kid to mess up, and the sesntionalization began. Now pods are nearly extinct and I know many people who had to switch to heroin. The lucky ones found kratom.

Either way best of luck to you and everyone who stands to benefit from these herbal medicines.


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Pariahprose]
    #22321227 - 10/01/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Pariahprose said:
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4HO-DMT said:
I would make the age limit 18. That way you wouldn't have to worry about minors at all. It's a cool idea. I would hit up a kratom/kava bar.

As far as recipes, I just make tea out of kratom and it tastes awful.




Lol, ya, I know what you mean about kratom tea. I wonder what would negate out that taste.

Anyway, gonna give you five shrooms good sir since you were the first person in the thread to even mention kratom tea, especially it's awful taste, lol.




Thanks! :datass:

I used to put mix kratom with apple cider. It worked okay at masking the taste. But, eventually I couldn't drink apple cider anymore. :nonono:


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Pariahprose]
    #22321347 - 10/01/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Once I had a dream I was in a DXM bar and I ordered a Tussin on the rocks.


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Alexestalex]
    #22321352 - 10/01/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alexestalex said:
Once I had a dream I was in a DXM bar and I ordered a Tussin on the rocks.



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Re: Kava Bars [Re: danielx]
    #22321512 - 10/01/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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danielx said:
Thanks for your response. My inherent problem is with anyone who sells kratom for consumption. I think some of the gas station/headshop mixes that talk about it being a 'legal high' are some of the worst offenders.

You can give accurate, bias free information all you want, but when you start selling it for consumption purpose the propagandist will come in and put their spin on things (eg Dr Phil show).

I saw the same thing happen with poppy pods. They were always in a legal gtey area, but I remember when you could buy pods on eBay. All it took was some dumb kid to mess up, and the sesntionalization began. Now pods are nearly extinct and I know many people who had to switch to heroin. The lucky ones found kratom.

Either way best of luck to you and everyone who stands to benefit from these herbal medicines.




First, thanks for your thanks. Input like yours is exactly what I was hoping for.

As for propagandists,that is why we must fight the propagandists before they get a major foothold like they did with weed.

I agree, a bunch of dumb ass kids can come and fuck things up, especially when they can purchase kratom at convenient stores.

The thing about those convenient stores though, their products are often over priced and may take several tries to find a brand of kratom that is worth a damn.

However, when you can offer a better price for better product than these stores, you minimize the risks of someone fucking it up for everyone. This same principal is being applied in marijuana legalization. There is ALWAYS going to be a black market (granted w/ Kratom at the convenient store level vs. More controlled and informed "bar" level you can't really call it a black market, but you seem intelligent enough to get the point). However, careful regulation and information = harm reduction, less harm to the consumer, the economy of the substance, and less harm to society.

I know my idea isn't perfect and wouldn't rid the problems associated w/ kratom. However, by eliminating convenient store markets its the closest and best thing we can do to keep kratom legal.

Look forward to your response btw :smile:


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Pariahprose]
    #22334392 - 10/04/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I saw a couple of these last November on the Big Island of Hawaii. I believe both were in Hilo, HI. I didn't get the chance to go in and have a drink though. I don't recall either of them looking extremely busy but they did have some customers. You might be able to look them up for ideas and inspirations. I think one of them even had a website where they sold products online such as the powder, coconut cups, etc. I haven't tried Kava either. Hoping to get some as an X-Mas present. I'd like to purchase a plant as well. All things you might could sell at your shop.


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Wotko]
    #22334414 - 10/04/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I been to one.
It wasn't strictly a kava bar and they didn't make it properly though, the dude straight up just blended it into hot water.
Place was chill as fuck though, they serve all different kinds of drug teas.
It was like, the closet thing I feel I'll ever get to like a junkie hut er whatever the fuck they're called.


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Re: Kava Bars [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #22334574 - 10/04/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd go to a kava bar.


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