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    #22319707 - 10/01/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars?


Right now, there are regions on the planet Mars that our rovers - Opportunity and Curiosity - are being kept from investigating. This is for a very specific reason, and if you're thinking this is going to involve aliens, you'd be right.

NASA's Curiosity rover snapped this composite selfie on August 5, 2015, from the location it drilled into a rock target called "Buckskin" on lower Mount Sharp. Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

However, we're not talking about intelligent aliens here, staying just out of view of the rovers' cameras. This is less about sci-fi and more about hard science.

With NASA's announcement this week of flowing liquid water found on Mars, it naturally led to a discussion about what this means for the search for life on the Red Planet. The confirmation of seasonal flows of briny water on the surface has raised the potential for microbes to living there, just as similar flows here on Earth - such as those in the Atacama Desert in northern Chile - are home to microbes that use them as a source of water and energy.

So far, though, these recurring slope lineae (RSL) have only been investigated from orbit. Thus, while there is the potential for life to exist there, we don't have any direct way of figuring that out.

Why not send one of the rovers we have on the surface over to one of these RSL, to scoop in and tell us what's there? After all, it appears as though some of these recurring slope lineae are near the top of Mount Sharp, so certainly within reach of NASA's Curiosity rover.

Based on what was said during NASA's briefing on Monday, if we did send Curiosity over to check one of these out, there is a definite chance that it would detect signs of life. However, the problem is, there'd be no way to tell for sure if that life was native to Mars or a hitchhiker from Earth.

The rovers are cleaned as well as possible before they're packed up and launched to their destination, but there's just no way for the scientists to be absolutely sure that something didn't tag along on the journey.

Until they can be sure, it's better to just keep the rovers away from these areas. Not only does this avoid the potential embarrassment of reporting life on Mars that ultimately originated from somewhere in southern California, but it also avoids contaminating these Mars "garden spots" with organisms that may have an unexpected effect on the local environment.

In the end, while it makes the search for life more difficult, it's all about NASA keeping Mars for the Martians - at least for now.

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/whats-up-in-space-rovers-are-forbidden-from-visiting-parts-of-mars-heres-why/57977




Tricky situation; how are they going to do this properly? Media outlets like Fox News will no doubt be able to say ad infinitum that any Martian microbes found are nothing but human contamination.


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: WScott]
    #22319734 - 10/01/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

unless there are mushrooms growing there
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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: Konyap]
    #22319740 - 10/01/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: Konyap]
    #22319741 - 10/01/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 1
    #22319751 - 10/01/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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An organisation called the committee on space research (Cospar) draws up the rules on what is called planetary protection, which exist to prevent missions from Earth contaminating the pristine environments of other worlds. Landers that are searching for life must be exceptionally clean, and fall under category IVb, but those entering special regions are category IVc missions and must be cleaner still.




Curiosity rover is IVb. although they are talking about going ahead and checking out that water anyways, so i heard


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: Adolin]
    #22319755 - 10/01/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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but there's just no way for the scientists to be absolutely sure that something didn't tag along on the journey.

source: OP




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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: WScott]
    #22319766 - 10/01/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

was just answering the question you asked in the subject, not going to read a whole article about something i know about lol


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: Adolin]
    #22319788 - 10/01/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:noddingbaby:

What do you think the chances are that any microbes found would even remotely look like the constituency of organisms on Earth?


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: WScott]
    #22319831 - 10/01/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

hmm IF they find microbes, i'd guess 90% they look pretty similar to something from earth, but with different unique DNA

10%, they are a totally bizarre, new type of life


thats just a complete guess though. i really have no idea what they might find


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22319876 - 10/01/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: Herbologist]
    #22321329 - 10/01/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

news flash they've been driving all over mars for years, the longer they wait to test, the greater the chance their contaminations find a way over there, then we really won't know.

and im not a rocket scientist or anything but there's no way those microbes couldn't be analyzed to find out if they were or weren't from mars originally.  They will be different, due to gravity, o2 levels, radiation, ect ect. 

The real problem is, soon as it gets contaminated, and it will, one will outgrow the other, and if its the microbes from earth, then all the mars shit will die


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22321340 - 10/01/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Obviouslythat's where the transformers are hidden


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: WScott]
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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22321349 - 10/01/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

what if there were super awesome mars mushooms that were like the best psychedelic ever

and nasa scientists figure this out and spend billions of dollars scavenging mars for he super mushrooms


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    #22321460 - 10/01/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: EnemaOfState]
    #22321740 - 10/01/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

we're not allowed get near the alien bases because we don't yet have the resources to invade


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #22321780 - 10/01/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Konyap said:
unless there are mushrooms growing there
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i had a dream once that i was in mars, and huge mushrooms, probably Ecuadors, the size of people were growing on the ground. there was an infinite supply of those fuckers and i remember munching on them till i kinda got sick of em. it was a pretty fun dream tho. the gravity was much lower than earth's and i remember jumping around and shit like i was in a bouncy castle. no regrets.



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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: Adolin]
    #22321788 - 10/01/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hmm IF they find microbes, i'd guess 90% they look pretty similar to something from earth, but with different unique DNA





it's more likely that the DNA would be similar but not as diverse


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22342813 - 10/06/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



Real Time with Bill Maher: Neil deGrasse Tyson – Water on Mars (HBO)

Neil gets into Earth being seeded by Martian life in the end, and water bears.


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Re: Why are NASA's rovers forbidden from visiting certain sites on Mars? [Re: WScott]
    #22343049 - 10/06/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, i still dont know why ita forbidden to inspect certain regions of mars


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