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REAL SEX
    #2231926 - 01/09/04 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

For the purpose of this thread, let us simplify it a bit and loosly group "sex" as an action which generaly begins with something  intimate in nature.

I would also like to request the following: that debate in this thread  remains on topic  [although you ARE free not to..]; and that no "jokes" are made [This isn't OTD  :tongue:]




Ok, first, I'd like to adress something that has surfaced in many writings... 

There seems to be a relatively common theme that has been written about:  That is, abstinence of sex, sometimes before mariage, and sometimes indefinately [read:celibacy].


Here's the deal. 


Every piece of literature has a lesson...  And sometimes, there is the obvious lesson, that the author conveys, AND a 'hidden jem-slyle lesson' the author does not convey, which eventually becomes obvious to those who observe detail.




So concerning the topic at hand, how is it, that the various writing is more than simply "dictating" what one should and should not do? 



The lesson is simple, yet many don't notice it because 'it' sits within 'background noise'.

So...  Is there merit to 'reading between the lines'?

You bet.  Especially if the writing was designed with that purpose in mind.





Here's the lesson I've learned from it:





But before I begin,  a small, yet serious, joke.




Surely many have heard:  "Too much of it  make you go blind !!!!" :lol:

Ever hear THAT one before?



I say... IT's TRUE !  :eek:


But you don't go  physically blind .


How many of you, for example, have had sex with someone and equated it with love.  I know many people do that; especially teen's who have just 'discovered' sex.

How many of you have had great sex and, as a result of maybe losing that sexual outlet, have turned a  blind eye to the "crap" your partner put you through.


You see, if you are oblivious to the fact, it CAN make you "blind".




Here's onother thing..




You ask yourelf:  If sex is so harmless, why the f*** is it written to stay away from it?


Is it really a SIN?




Here's the "Hidden Jem"  I got from this..



What makes good sex "toe curling" GREAT?




Anticipation.




To make someone "wait for it", is to create anticiaption.




Correct me if I'm wrong, but most writings [except those relating to celibacy] require you to wait, until the right moment.



WHY???





Foreplay.






The 'Hidden Jem' is    F O R E P L A Y.    :eek:




[They DON'T teach THAT in bible school  :lol:]





So what's the big deal? 

Without foreplay, sex is just a mechanical "wham-bam-thank-you-mam"...



Let us, now, go into the next phase of this thread.




And that is, the question of free will.


What the hell does this have to do with sex???




Using a small scale, I'll give you an example [..and NO..  this is NOT the fantasy channel...  I'm using this to further my argument].




I have a friend whom I know.  I've known her for a long while.  We have built trust.  We have a very good friendship.


I was at her place once, and we got a little intimate.  We gave each other a nice massage.


[Now just remember the small-scaling of this example]



So while relaxed, and sitting together, I started "playing piano" up her leg.  Turns out, her skin was sensitive that day, and she started to laugh.

She didn't stop me, but  took both of her hands and [free willingly] placed them around her thighs and said while laughing: "Not if I can stop you !"



So..  In the spirit of the game, I  MADE  her make a choice.



I started to delicately touch her knee...  "Not the KNEE !!!!"  As she removes her hands from her thighs and exposes where I wanted to go all along..  You know, that sensitive part on the sides of the thighs...


She made her "FREE WILLED" choice.


She  went with the flow , and CHOSE to cover up her knee.



THAT was a "mistake".








Everyone understands the concept of free will.  But true free will goes AGAINST the flow.



That was a small scale example.



The good news, concerning going against the flow, is obvious [concerning the real world]:

If the real world's flow is that of war, theft, serious conflict [generally speaking, "bad" things], then the hidden "free will" reflects the choices you make... 

To "go with the flow", or not "to go with the flow"...  THAT is the question !




Now, the purpose of this thread was not to tell you to stay away from sex.

It was to open your eyes to hidden meaning.




I am merely trying to reason with  you.

I am not TELLING YOU what to do cause I KNOW  are all  MASTERS   OF YOU OWN DOMAIN  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:








THIS, among other things, I learned  with sex.






Who says SEX can't be educationnal?
:lol:







Oh...  and...













































MADE YOU LOOK !  :eek:


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2232252 - 01/09/04 10:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My god, man, thought provoking stuff... I really appreciate your style of posting, as well. Mine are more short blocks of text globbed around... hehe. You force people to focus, man, that is definitely kick ass. :thumb:

(I've sort of done a lot of stuff tonight and lost my mind, so there, that is why I am being all crazy tonight. :nut:)

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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2232265 - 01/09/04 10:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Talk about thought provoking!  Nice post... :thumbup:


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2234660 - 01/11/04 12:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone hear this before?


According to the French, an      :eek: rgasm [!!!] is described as a "Mini-Death"..


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2235627 - 01/11/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No nibbles yet..

Ok, let's take it further..




If an orgasm was like a 'mini death', then the implication, at least to me, would seem like it had  something   to do with the less physical as well as the physical.




Could it be, that the physical part of it was like an interaction with the less physical?  ...You know...  like a message from your body to your consciousness?




*The voice in my head just said: "Well duh!  Obviously!"*
>>I gotta put a muzzle on it sometimes..  :lipsrsealed:<<





If it is, in fact, a physically related interaction with your consciousness, then perhaps it can be used to your advantage.



How many out there have ever felt like they made a real connection with someone after an intimate night?

On a deeper level?






Of course EMOTION plays a large part.


Emotion can reach quite far, and can also be so strong that it blinds [both extremes can affect the same.. ie- love and rage].




If you play real nice, how deep within a person do you suppose that you can interact?






A rush job may be alright, here and there..

But isn't it much better when one is patient?






When one is  blind , one must cultivate alot of  patience .

Feelings   then, become very  important .



Once you learn how to feel, then you are, once again, able to see.



Such " sight " is  unaffected   by  blindness .


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2235682 - 01/12/04 12:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, I'll bite...

I can't have sex unless I have "feeling" for the person. I have to feel like I'm "in love".

I had sex one time, without feelings of love, and it was pretty hot. Maybe the hottest sex I have ever had. I didn't loathe myself afterwards, but I felt bad.

Someone I know once said that animals can rut in the jungle, but humans have higher thought processes and should be having sex for higher purposes. You can supply your meaning of "higher purposes".

For me, sex = love (sorry, Deiymiyan).


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Frog]
    #2235711 - 01/12/04 12:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have no idea why you are sorry...

This is the first thing I mentionned when I made this thread:

"... let us simplify it a bit and loosly group "sex" as an action which generaly begins with something intimate in nature."


Intimacy, to me at least, involves some feelings of love on one level or another.


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2235715 - 01/12/04 12:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know how "love" can be said in the same breath as "one night stand".

Do you want to define love, first?

My definition of love:

Some day, after we have mastered the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we shall harness the energies of love. Then, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire. ~Teilhard de Chardin~


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Frog]
    #2235724 - 01/12/04 12:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

I don't know how "love" can be said in the same breath as "one night stand".





I was able to do it, and I do not have a large lung capacity.

Seriously though, I agree with what you are saying. I think that one night stands are not that different from masturbation. But when there is love behind it...


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Frog]
    #2235745 - 01/12/04 12:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know how "love" can be said in the same breath as "one night stand".


Frog, it's my turn to say sorry now... But I simply don't understand why you just said that.


BTW... That was a real sweet definition of LOVE you just posted.


It's all about connection. To master and to harness, you must first attempt to connect.

Ignite thy passion, so to speak.


Rediscovering such an element as Fire, is a wonderful analogy.


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2235757 - 01/12/04 12:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Deiymiyan said:
I don't know how "love" can be said in the same breath as "one night stand".


Frog, it's my turn to say sorry now... But I simply don't understand why you just said that.




Why are you sorry? Are you sorry I can't enjoy a one night stand? Maybe I don't understand your questions. Sex for the sake of sex can be very gratifying. But without love, we're just animals. For me, that is not as gratifying as sex + love.

Quote:


BTW... That was a real sweet definition of LOVE you just posted.




Thank you. It is my absolute most favorite quote in the whole world. Next is that quote I posted of Shakespeare's on my "what would you do for love" thread that MM just brought back up tonight. The antithesis of tonight's quote.


Quote:

It's all about connection. To master and to harness, you must first attempt to connect.




So are you saying that "connection" = "love"? Or that the way to get to know the other first is through a physical connection? I think that that is where the blindness is ignited in the first place.

Quote:

Rediscovering such an element as Fire, is a wonderful analogy.




I so agree.


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Frog]
    #2235766 - 01/12/04 12:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I thought there was a party in this thread and you guys are just talking.

Nevermind.

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    #2235773 - 01/12/04 12:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

  :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Frog]
    #2235808 - 01/12/04 01:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe I don't understand your questions

No no... It appears to have been my misunderstanding. Your statement was fine.



So are you saying that "connection" = "love"?

That becomes true when the flame becomes re-discovered.


Connecting with someone/something dosen't = love at first. The connection builds and strengthens with time and patience. But it does start with the individual's interest.


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2235813 - 01/12/04 01:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Deiymiyan said:
So are you saying that "connection" = "love"?

That becomes true when the flame becomes re-discovered.

Connecting with someone/something dosen't = love at first. The connection builds and strengthens with time and patience. But it does start with the individual's interest.




But I thought you mentioned "blindness" in your opening post. Maybe I will have to go back and read it again.

I agree that the connection builds with time and patience, but sometimes we are making the connection with the wrong person, because we are blinded by the physical intimacy, upon which we may have embarked too soon.


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Frog]
    #2235831 - 01/12/04 01:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree that the connection builds with time and patience, but sometimes we are making the connection with the wrong person, but we are blinded by the physical intimacy, upon which we may have embarked too soon.


I agree.



Concerning connecting with another individual, perhaps involving even yourself, is it possible, or even probable, that the deeper the connection you make, the deeper the amount of consciousness was involved.


In other words, do you think "souls" can touch?


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Frog]
    #2235834 - 01/12/04 01:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Very true.

It is also true that love is so much more than physical intimacy.


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2235838 - 01/12/04 01:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I also agree with that. But I think that is because I am in an agreeable mood tonight.


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #2235853 - 01/12/04 01:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Deiymiyan said:
Concerning connecting with another individual, perhaps involving even yourself, is it possible, or even probable, that the deeper the connection you make, the deeper the amount of consciousness was involved.

In other words, do you think "souls" can touch?





Interesting thought.

I think that souls can touch, but I don't know if that is why, for me, the connection seems to be too deep. I do know that if I am with someone sexually, it won't be just physical.

(Thinking out loud here...)

On a personal level, I do not become attracted to someone based on physical appearance. There has to be a (excuse the lawyerly reference) "meeting of the minds", so to speak.

What is in the mind? What "is" the mind? If the mind, which is more than just its physical components, is the embodiment of our spirit, than isn't what we bring to the table (or bed, in this case), more than just the physical? Aren't we connecting to each other as spirits, as souls? Doesn't that make the physical connection deeper?


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Re: REAL SEX [Re: Frog]
    #2235888 - 01/12/04 01:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What is in the mind?

For some, not much.

What "is" the mind?

That is a philosophical subject that volumes have been written about.

If the mind, which is more than just its physical components, is the embodiment of our spirit, than isn't what we bring to the table (or bed, in this case), more than just the physical?

Absolutely!

Aren't we connecting to each other as spirits, as souls?

Yes, and that is as great reason to abtain from having casual sex as I have ever heard.

Doesn't that make the physical connection deeper?

Yes!


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