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OfflinePsychblues
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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: Salomon]
    #22322034 - 10/02/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

True... I guess there will always be selfish lunatics out there who get off by shooting children in the face. As horrible as it is, we can do nothing. Part of living in a somewhat free country is the having right to do horrible things in real time. Of course you will be persecuted after, but I think that is part of the crazy shooter's logic. Almost every time they kill themselves, either by there own hand, or they intentionally try to out gun multiple trained officers. I guess what they really want is just to die and leave this earth, and before they go they take some lives along to nothingness, in order to fulfill there twisted revenge against a society they viewed as toxic to there psyche.


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: Psychblues]
    #22322171 - 10/02/15 05:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

What's fucked up to think is we have tragedies but they really aren't shit compared to the middle ages. Shit was off the chain back then.


btw just a saw that martian movie. lol shit was alright kinda retarded tho


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: Psychblues] * 1
    #22322375 - 10/02/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: Psychblues]
    #22322405 - 10/02/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In before everyone says this is a liberal conspiracy

Ah shit too late...


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22322427 - 10/02/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Damn Canadians.



http://harvardpolitics.com/special_features/gun.html





Your chart fails to mention the mass shootings that happen outside of schools. In homes, movie theatres, and other various places.


Nice job though.

Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

I counted over 100 between the dates your chart says there was only 55.

Biased much?


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #22322438 - 10/02/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Blablabla your fault their fault, whatever.
Can we all just agree that maybe the mental health care in the US is fucked up?
Seriously, everybody is deflecting the issue, blaming everything between heaven and earth, but am I the only one who sees this?


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22322447 - 10/02/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sh4d0ws said:
Your chart fails to mention the mass shootings that happen outside of schools. In homes, movie theatres, and other various places.




Perhaps because this thread and the article are about school shootings.


Quote:

Nice job though.




Perhaps you should try harder next time. Then you might possibly do a good job as well.


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22322456 - 10/02/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

Your chart says between the dates posted that only 55 school shootings happened. I counted over 100 documented school shootings and I only just looked.

It's good when you guys alter your own information to make yourselves look less fucked.

Nice one!


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: California]
    #22322457 - 10/02/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

California said:
Quote:

336 said:
I like how you and everyone else that is all mad at me completely ignored me




You'd obviously be surprised at how ignorant trolls like yourself are ignored.
We ignored you because you're just being a troll.  We don't care what you are saying because whatever it is is moronic, try hard, and troll.





Lol and he ignored me. Ironic :smirk:

What a puss


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22322467 - 10/02/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

sh4d0ws said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

Your chart says between the dates posted that only 55 school shootings happened. I counted over 100 documented school shootings and I only just looked.

It's good when you guys alter your own information to make yourselves look less fucked.

Nice one!




If you disagree perhaps you should take it up with the authors at Harvard.


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22322481 - 10/02/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps this will help your comprehension.

— The data for the number of school shootings comes from research done by Georgia Southern University professor Laura Agnich, who told the HPR that this research defines school shootings as incidents in schools with “at least one fatality, but more than one intended victim.” The estimates of civilian firearms comes from the 2011 Small Arms Survey, and much of the data on civilian firearms per 100 citizens also comes from this survey. The survey did not include data on civilian firearms per 100 people for the countries marked with an asterisk, so this data was created using population data from 2007, the year the actual data collection from the Small Arms Survey was conducted, and civilian firearms data from the Small Arms Survey. The data for automatic firearms laws came from the organization Gunpolicy.org for all countries except Israel, Argentina, and Bosnia-Herzegovina.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22322564 - 10/02/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

TL/DR version... another gun-free school zone.

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The Complications of Oregon’s Guns-On-Campus Laws
2015-10-01 16:59:40
James King

Under state law, people in Oregon could carry concealed firearms on college campuses like the one where a gunman killed nine people and wounded several others on Thursday. However, Umpqua Community College has been established as a gun-free zone thanks to a loophole in state law that has made every third-level institution in the state almost entirely gun-free. Here’s how that works.

Currently, only three states—Idaho, Utah and Colorado—allow guns on campuses regardless of school policy. Oregon’s guns-on-campus law is a bit more complicated.

Under state law, “campus carry” is permitted, but each university can set its own policy on whether or not they want to allow firearms. In 2012, after the state legislature failed to pass a bill that would have banned guns on campuses, Oregon’s State Board of Education, which oversees many of the state’s public universities, unanimously approved a policy that bans guns from its campuses, and other institutions followed suit. Additionally, the policy states that anyone who does business with any of the state universities—which includes “students, employees, contractors, people buying tickets to university events or people renting university property,” according to a 2012 article posted on OregonLive.com—must agree to not bring weapons on campus. Anyone who violates this policy cannot be criminally prosecuted, but can face punishment by the university. Students and faculty could face disciplinary action from the university, while contractors risk a breach of contract lawsuit.

The State Board tried to ban guns on campus entirely, but were denied by Oregon’s Court of Appeals. The current policy of the State Board of Education states that people with concealed carry permits are allowed to bring their firearms on campuses, but are not into university buildings, which means a person can roam a campus with a concealed weapon, but if they want to go indoors, they must have somewhere (like the trunk of their car) to store their weapon. Umpqua Community College is not governed by the State Board of Education, but has a similar policy in place.

“Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited,” according to the college’s code of conduct. Additionally, the college bans knives with blades longer than four inches and misuse of defensive weapons like pepper spray or stun guns.

All states have different laws regarding concealed weapons on campus. Currently there are only 12 states that have laws banning guns on campuses altogether. The majority of states leave the decision up the individual university.




http://www.vocativ.com/news/236421/the-complications-of-oregons-guns-on-campus-laws/?PageSpeed=noscript


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22323356 - 10/02/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So news outlets are now reporting that he was indeed allegedly targeting christians.


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: Niffla]
    #22323609 - 10/02/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure 'gun controllers' will be shedding tears over this news, but...

All Gunman's Firearms Purchased Legally

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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms said at a press conference Friday they recovered 13 firearms from the person and residence of Chris Harper Mercer, the 26-year-old gunman who fatally shot nine people at Umpqua Community College. The ATF said all the weapons were purchased legally, either by Mercer or his family. Mercer was also wearing a flack jacket, which included five ammunition magazines.




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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22323667 - 10/02/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Guns are bad MM'kay uh guns are bad

:bushdre:


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: BoomerMan420]
    #22323672 - 10/02/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So don't own or handle one.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22323712 - 10/02/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think everyone who is against guns, should be on their own when some psychotic person decides to try to kill them or takes them hostage. Why should police or an armed bystander come to your rescue if you're so against guns? You think they're not warranted, fine, deal with the lunatic on your own in whatever way you think is better.

:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: Shroomslip] * 2
    #22323756 - 10/02/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomslip said:
I think everyone who is against guns, should be on their own when some psychotic person decides to try to kill them or takes them hostage. Why should police or an armed bystander come to your rescue if you're so against guns? You think they're not warranted, fine, deal with the lunatic on your own in whatever way you think is better.

:nodofunderstanding:




We could try actually helping the mental health of our fellow humans instead of relying on violence, just a though. I get your point though :shrug:


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22323765 - 10/02/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomslip said:
I think everyone who is against guns, should be on their own when some psychotic person decides to try to kill them or takes them hostage. Why should police or an armed bystander come to your rescue if you're so against guns? You think they're not warranted, fine, deal with the lunatic on your own in whatever way you think is better.




Sounds like a plan but how will you get the anti-gunners to have a big red A-G tattooed onto their foreheads?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Shooting at Oregon college [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22323845 - 10/02/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3257183/He-told-Christians-meet-God-one-second-shot-Harrowing-story-survival-student-survived-playing-dead.html

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She told her family that he told his victims to stand up and declare their religion, before telling them: ‘Good, because you’re a Christian, you’re going to see God in just about one second.’






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