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Dboy
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Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation?
#22318624 - 10/01/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi so I'm interested in learning the science of mushroom cultivation.
I want to invite anyone to join the conversation, BUT PLEASE only share your knowledge if you can back it up with A SOURCE.
How do spores become mycelium? i.e What is the mode of action that causes mycelial growth, and what is needed in this process?
I also want to know more about hyphal knots, rhizomorphic growth, and metabolites
Let there be SCIENCE!
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Dboy]
#22318631 - 10/01/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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In b4 someone says
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22318668 - 10/01/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Honestly man, you can look most of this stuff up a lot faster than waiting for responses on here. You're already online, so you have a world of info right at your fingertips.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: thebug76]
#22318689 - 10/01/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it is nice to have other people share their coolest finds though. can't find what you want with google often, at least I can't
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22318729 - 10/01/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: it is nice to have other people share their coolest finds though. can't find what you want with google often, at least I can't
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: thebug76]
#22318744 - 10/01/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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honestly its more interesting to here people who know what theyre talking about have an informed discussion. Yeah you can google the information, but its not as interesting.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Dboy]
#22318811 - 10/01/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22318815 - 10/01/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're not going to find a whole lot of sources that correlate with illegal mushrooms that almost nobody can get funding for studies on.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Inocuole]
#22318828 - 10/01/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: You're not going to find a whole lot of sources that correlate with illegal mushrooms that almost nobody can get funding for studies on.
Who said anything about illegal mushrooms?
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: mwhtmn]
#22318845 - 10/01/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This forum is for psychoactive mushrooms so, if you want to discuss non-psychoactive ones, this isn't the correct subforum. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/13
You'd be looking for that if you wanted information on studied mushrooms. We largely only have conjecture to work with where actives are concerned.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: Dboy]
#22318854 - 10/01/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: Belongs here...
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: PussyFart]
#22318864 - 10/01/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ohhhh PF says it's advanced Mycology.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Dboy]
#22318880 - 10/01/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dboy said: Hi so I'm interested in learning the science of mushroom cultivation.
I want to invite anyone to join the conversation, BUT PLEASE only share your knowledge if you can back it up with A SOURCE.
How do spores become mycelium? i.e What is the mode of action that causes mycelial growth, and what is needed in this process?
Well, if you want sources I might as well just post links =P
You can read them if you want.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2901643/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26411895 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC25488/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11601606 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12001268 http://femsre.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/1/65.long http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12001268 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1111/mec.13236/
I just reformated my PC so I only have the stuff I was reading last night.
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I also want to know more about hyphal knots, rhizomorphic growth, and metabolites
hyphal knots is pinning rhizomorphic growth is just a stage of growth where the mycelium is growing fastest outward to get food. sorry, no sources; the term doesn't even come up in a pubmed search. most of what i have read from journals say it doesn't really matter metabolites: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_pathway
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
#22318893 - 10/01/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Ohhhh PF says it's advanced Mycology. 
Better than where u wanted to put it lol.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: PussyFart]
#22318991 - 10/01/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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Inocuole said: Ohhhh PF says it's advanced Mycology. 
Better than where u wanted to put it lol.
Shhh I didn't tell him where I really wanted to put it.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
#22319008 - 10/01/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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PussyFart said:
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Inocuole said: Ohhhh PF says it's advanced Mycology. 
Better than where u wanted to put it lol.
Shhh I didn't tell him where I really wanted to put it. 
All you guys are silly. Thanks for the education, as well.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: mwhtmn]
#22319024 - 10/01/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well... Spores become mycelium by extending as single... monokaryotic strands, which clamp to compatible strands and form dikaryotic myceilum. Hyphal knots are just the beginning of pins, can't really explain much on those, and rhizomorphic growth is just a phase of growth that occurs most often on low-nutrient substrates or media, but can also be genetic. A healthy culture could go its whole life without showing rhizomorphs, so it's not critical feature.
That's all I've got for real answers.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: Inocuole]
#22319161 - 10/01/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Well... Spores become mycelium by extending as single... monokaryotic strands, which clamp to compatible strands and form dikaryotic myceilum. Hyphal knots are just the beginning of pins, can't really explain much on those, and rhizomorphic growth is just a phase of growth that occurs most often on low-nutrient substrates or media, but can also be genetic. A healthy culture could go its whole life without showing rhizomorphs, so it's not critical feature.
That's all I've got for real answers.
Well, i feel sufficiently educated now. thanks
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: Dboy]
#22319172 - 10/01/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That was a really lackluster explanation, even the people who've posted in here already should know more than me on that, I just picked up what I've learned here from some of the biologists and such that come through.
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Re: Can we talk the "Science" of Mushroom Cultivation? (moved) [Re: Dboy]
#22319176 - 10/01/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dboy said: Well, i feel sufficiently educated now. thanks 
I'm glad. It's good you feel that way
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