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Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible?
    #2231699 - 01/09/04 06:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hi everyone once again.
Today I looked towards my 2 spore prints (Mexican, Mazatapec)
and I asked my-self: "why not trying to get them together in a
unic inoculation?". I took away some spore of Mexican, some of Mazatapec, and after sucked up all the solution in just one syringe.
Is anything goin' to come out? :thumbup: :thumbdown: Anyone had any experiment like this?
Hope for a reply from somebody.

Greet,

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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Mex]
    #2231713 - 01/09/04 06:41 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If you want to start "breeding" new strains, you really need to be doing agar work nad have a microscope so that you can isolate indivual hypha of the two strain and try to get them to cross.

I can't find the exact quote, nor do I have the time to keep looking for it at this point, but in TMC Stamets notes that many new strains produced by crossing two pre-existing strains often do not produce as well as either of the "parent" strains did. This is, of course, not an absolute.


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Mex]
    #2233357 - 01/10/04 04:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I think you will find that only one will dominate. They will not cross. Two differant gene pools.
JMHO
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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Mex]
    #2233418 - 01/10/04 05:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

like bonsai said one strain will dominate stronger will rule


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Mex]
    #2233551 - 01/10/04 06:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I don't see how making a "hybrid" of two different types of cubensis is really a hybrid since they are technically the same specie. The only difference is the region from which they come. These are mushrooms, not pot plants. Why not just grow them seperately and eat equal portions?


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: fungulus]
    #2233745 - 01/10/04 08:27 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

cross breading strains is making a hybrid just like with all types of plants. We are all the same specie but if we mate outside our race we are hybriding. I know that sounds kinda weird but its true. And making a hybrid might make that mushroom you just created have the best trates form both parents and be a twice as good as either or it can be the exact oppisite.


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: fee]
    #2233771 - 01/10/04 08:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You are correct...

Main Entry: hy?brid
Pronunciation: 'hI-br&d
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin hybrida
Date: 1601
1 : an offspring of two animals or plants of different races, breeds, varieties, species, or genera

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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Mex]
    #2233776 - 01/10/04 08:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

There is good info regarding hybridisation and genetics in general with in this post.

Read up!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...sb=5&o=&fpart=1

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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Joshua]
    #2234203 - 01/11/04 03:16 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)


the dominant strain will prevail obviously, but hoping for a super strain or something simillar will not happen without work. genetics and changing them definitely will take some work  :smile: no offense intended.


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: DSD]
    #2234222 - 01/11/04 03:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I noticed that you replied to me instead of the person you were intending to. Part of a coherant discussion is to address the person to whom your thoughts are directed toward.

If you meant the post to be directed toward me...I'm confused as it isn't reletive to anything I said as far as I can understand.

Then I looked at your avatar and forgot where I was...very cool!

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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Joshua]
    #2234261 - 01/11/04 04:24 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yes joshua, i fucked up and yes i am semi coherent, give me a break, i was just trying to help someone out. :smile:


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: fee]
    #2234275 - 01/11/04 04:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

with mushies (and all sexually reproductive organisms) everything is a hybrid, just depends how specificly related the organism is to its mate.


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: DSD]
    #2234276 - 01/11/04 04:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

P.S.- people ask questions and they are hoping for answers before some asshole shoots them down,yea faq's blaH, BLAH - TRY HELPING SOMEONE OUT BEFORE YOU BUST THERE BALLS.


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: DSD]
    #2234282 - 01/11/04 04:42 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)


O.K.- i will apologize for venting, MY FAULT - but joshua , you are not god regardless of what you think.


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: DSD]
    #2234286 - 01/11/04 04:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It looks like you address the right person most of the time. It just bugs me when the conversation doesn't flow.

It's like if we were in a group and you look at me and start responding to me about someone elses statement...I'd have to check you out for having a lazy eye or something.

BTW...I did give you a break..."Then I looked at your avatar and forgot where I was...very cool!"

That is me realising the grand nature of reality...nothing really matters. The finite is the infinite related in different scales...like a fractal. I was simply trying to increase the resolution of our conversation-fractal.

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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Joshua]
    #2234783 - 01/11/04 03:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Well... either if the discussion at the end turned out to be something personal between Joshua and DSD (LOL) thank you all for your posts! ;-)

See you!

Greet,

R.


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Mex]
    #2234787 - 01/11/04 03:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

And... mmh, WHY NO ONE IS RATING ME?!? :-)))


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Mex]
    #2234798 - 01/11/04 03:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Mexican_guy/Documenti/Immagini/ is a nice folder name...


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Anno]
    #2234845 - 01/11/04 04:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

anno is a h4x0r to the m4x0r.


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Re: Makin' an hybrid syringe: possible? [Re: Mex]
    #2236638 - 01/12/04 10:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I am sorry for the digression. I did take the discussion to PM's in order not to hijack your thread any further.

I hope you had a chance to read through this thread as there is information in it that explains the answer to your question very well on both the cellular level and on the genetic level.

Joshua


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