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OfflineWhyDidiDoThis
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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: myc_check1212]
    #22318935 - 10/01/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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there are no positives to letting foreigners enter the US.





bullshit

this sounds like xenophobia, not anti-illegal immigration

I oppose illegals but I do not oppose immigration




Seconded, immigration and assimilation made this country great. Illegal immigration will undo it.

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Our herion comes from the black market taliban. And Vietnamese. Also india.




The lions share of heroin comes from Mexico, same for methamphetamine. This is the result of marijuana legalization.

Cartels are losing the mj revenue to American growers, to compensate they have doubled down on crystal, coke and heroin. They also have keen business acumen, being able to capitalize on the rampant opioid prescription abuse.

Another favorite market is human trafficking, be it illegal migrant workers, sex slavery or OTM (other than mexican/central American/south American).

OTMs could be anything from Chinese to middle eastern.



BS mexico doesnt even have conditions anywhere near as good as he eastern countrys for heroin.
It comes straight from the CIA.
http://mediaroots.org/opium-what-afghanistan-is-really-about/


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22318940 - 10/01/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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TORCUTT said:
Ever think the baby boomers generation was overly racist filled with black segregation and shit? Brainwashed from then until forever.




You would kill to live half as good as they did, they weren't brainwashed, they used commonsense and didn't follow some stupid PC rule book.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: qman]
    #22319027 - 10/01/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
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TORCUTT said:
Ever think the baby boomers generation was overly racist filled with black segregation and shit? Brainwashed from then until forever.




You would kill to live half as good as they did, they weren't brainwashed, they used commonsense and didn't follow some stupid PC rule book.



I live better. Im not subject to MK Ultra experiments, bullshit Reagan regime, or around for the United States assassination of Martin luther King Jr. (United States found guilty in '99)
Not to mention the failure of Vietnam.
Or the LA riots.

It really was a bad time in america. 50's -80's full of brainwashing propaganda,  that you are still defending.

http://mediaroots.org/opium-what-afghanistan-is-really-about/


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #22319032 - 10/01/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Dey took ar jerb!!! Dey tek he jeb? Deturkarjab!!!hahahaha



Hmm


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22319315 - 10/01/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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TORCUTT said:
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qman said:
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TORCUTT said:
Ever think the baby boomers generation was overly racist filled with black segregation and shit? Brainwashed from then until forever.




You would kill to live half as good as they did, they weren't brainwashed, they used commonsense and didn't follow some stupid PC rule book.



I live better. Im not subject to MK Ultra experiments, bullshit Reagan regime, or around for the United States assassination of Martin luther King Jr. (United States found guilty in '99)
Not to mention the failure of Vietnam.
Or the LA riots.

It really was a bad time in america. 50's -80's full of brainwashing propaganda,  that you are still defending.

http://mediaroots.org/opium-what-afghanistan-is-really-about/




"I live better"

I doubt it, you complain about the Reagan regime, how's the Obama years treating you? :rofl2:

"It was really a bad time in america. 50's-80's"

Wow, you really don't have a clue. :facepalm:


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Patlal]
    #22319359 - 10/01/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Illegals immigrant break the law of your country the minute they step in. That's a lack of respect to your sovereignty. You fought to get your country and now it's being slowly taken over by people who think they are too good for the country they live in so they give themselves permission to just walk in as if it was permitted. Unacceptable

Plus once they are in, they become the equidavlent of modern day slaves. They get abused and paid wages that cannot  sustain life within the US. I don't know how they manage to get social security, but apparently they do. They just walk in and steal the money Americans have worked for shamelessly.

I am completely against it.





Do you even live in canada? If so, when do you plan on moving to the usa? Because all you ever seem to speak about is the USA, except the occasional time you praise harper and call him one of the greatest prime ministers weve ever had.

I cant even tell if youre serious, considering thats the biggest crock of shit ive ever heard.

Harper...a good prime minister...:loldongs:


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22319396 - 10/01/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22319473 - 10/01/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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336 said:
Truth is Qman it's your generation's fault that America has fallen.
My parents and their parents wasted all their money away, sold their businesses and assets, and got themselves up to their ears in debt. There are a few that didn't (my mother's father and my great uncle) other than that almost all the people I know that are my parents and grandparents age fucked themselves up with debt; then when you consider the business men of that age bracket you find that they were the ones that were REALLY responsible. They outsourced so much labor and played so many Wolf On Wallstreet/Enron-type games to make more money that it sunk our nation into what it is now.

China isn't responsible; illegal immigration isn't responsible; YOUR GENERATION IS RESPONSIBLE!

YOUR PEOPLE FUCKED US!

And now all you people do is bitch and moan about how it's all the Mexicans fault, it's all because of illegal immigration, it's all because of Obama.

Fucking hypocrites stringing up scapegoats to try and undermine your own responsibility for the current state of affairs.

IMHO of course





"They outsourced so much labor"

:facepalm: No, the US working class didn't outsource their own jobs, the corporations bought off the politicians and the rest was history.  There was a real political debate on this "free trade" nonsense in 1994 when Ross Perot demanded it shouldn't happen, once that ended the American people just kind of stood by idle and watched everything close down.

"YOUR GENERATION IS RESPONSIBLE, YOUR PEOPLE FUCKED US"

Well, you are correct to a certain degree, but to be fair most Americans were and still are pretty clueless when it comes to economic trade and globalization.  It's a complex economic issue with lots of negatives and a few benefits, the MSM wasn't going to spell it out for them. 

Also, all developed economies also fell into this trap, Japan, UK, and all of the EU are in the same boat.  The average working class peasant didn't really have a choice in this matter, so I don't know why much responsibility one should put on them.

"hypocrites stringing up scapegoats"

We know who pushed for globalization- the very rich!!  We know who pushed for a open border- the very rich!  I'm not blaming China or Mexico, but that doesn't mean that illegal immigrants aren't a huge negative for the US citizen. Again, that doesn't mean they're bad people, they just need to be deported.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22319492 - 10/01/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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TORCUTT said:
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qman said:
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TORCUTT said:
Ever think the baby boomers generation was overly racist filled with black segregation and shit? Brainwashed from then until forever.




You would kill to live half as good as they did, they weren't brainwashed, they used commonsense and didn't follow some stupid PC rule book.



I live better. Im not subject to MK Ultra experiments, bullshit Reagan regime, or around for the United States assassination of Martin luther King Jr. (United States found guilty in '99)
Not to mention the failure of Vietnam.
Or the LA riots.

It really was a bad time in america. 50's -80's full of brainwashing propaganda,  that you are still defending.

http://mediaroots.org/opium-what-afghanistan-is-really-about/



Oh look.  A new troll.



There are several factors in comparing today and the sixties.  Number one living conditions are far better for poor people today.  The things we take for granted were uncommon then.  Air conditioning.  Phone calls were expensive as fuck and you had to make them tied to a handset.  Dishwashers were a rarity.  There's a lot more. 

Then there was the fact that the rest of the world had recently been decimated and there was no competition to speak of.  Once Japan got on its feet what happened to the auto industry in the US that had been pumping out shit quality for decades?

Then there are technology advances that allow an economy of production that used to require skills.  Robots.  In construction nail guns allow a huge increase in production and require far less skill.  One guy with the knowledge can lead a crew of twelve monkeys that will produce more than twenty guys with skills 30 years ago.

Idiots are getting marginalized.  As they should be.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: qman]
    #22319497 - 10/01/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
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336 said:
Truth is Qman it's your generation's fault that America has fallen.
My parents and their parents wasted all their money away, sold their businesses and assets, and got themselves up to their ears in debt. There are a few that didn't (my mother's father and my great uncle) other than that almost all the people I know that are my parents and grandparents age fucked themselves up with debt; then when you consider the business men of that age bracket you find that they were the ones that were REALLY responsible. They outsourced so much labor and played so many Wolf On Wallstreet/Enron-type games to make more money that it sunk our nation into what it is now.

China isn't responsible; illegal immigration isn't responsible; YOUR GENERATION IS RESPONSIBLE!

YOUR PEOPLE FUCKED US!

And now all you people do is bitch and moan about how it's all the Mexicans fault, it's all because of illegal immigration, it's all because of Obama.

Fucking hypocrites stringing up scapegoats to try and undermine your own responsibility for the current state of affairs.

IMHO of course





"They outsourced so much labor"

:facepalm: No, the US working class didn't outsource their own jobs, the corporations bought off the politicians and the rest was history.  There was a real political debate on this "free trade" nonsense in 1994 when Ross Perot demanded it shouldn't happen, once that ended the American people just kind of stood by idle and watched everything close down.

"YOUR GENERATION IS RESPONSIBLE, YOUR PEOPLE FUCKED US"

Well, you are correct to a certain degree, but to be fair most Americans were and still are pretty clueless when it comes to economic trade and globalization.  It's a complex economic issue with lots of negatives and a few benefits, the MSM wasn't going to spell it out for them. 

Also, all developed economies also fell into this trap, Japan, UK, and all of the EU are in the same boat.  The average working class peasant didn't really have a choice in this matter, so I don't know why much responsibility one should put on them.

"hypocrites stringing up scapegoats"

We know who pushed for globalization- the very rich!!  We know who pushed for a open border- the very rich!  I'm not blaming China or Mexico, but that doesn't mean that illegal immigrants aren't a huge negative for the US citizen. Again, that doesn't mean they're bad people, they just need to be deported.




The root cause of globalization is the consumer who wants to pay less.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22319575 - 10/01/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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336 said:
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zappaisgod said:
The root cause of globalization is the consumer who wants to pay less.



FALSE
The root cause of globalization is the producer who wants to pay less and make more.



No.  A producer who can't compete becomes a non-producer.  Profit margins are generally pretty slim.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22319626 - 10/01/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You really have no fucking clue at all.  The stock market is not the consumer market.  Apple is the perfect example

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/ive-always-wondered/how-much-would-all-american-iphone-cost

The iPhone would cost 3 times as much as it does.  Which would put Apple out of the cellphone business.  The iPhone would not even exist.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22319640 - 10/01/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The brand new iphone 6 costs $200.10 to produce by apple. Yet they are being sold $550-$600. :shrug: That's a pretty high markup.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22319674 - 10/01/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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336 said:
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zappaisgod said:
You really have no fucking clue at all.  The stock market is not the consumer market.  Apple is the perfect example

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/ive-always-wondered/how-much-would-all-american-iphone-cost

The iPhone would cost 3 times as much as it does.  Which would put Apple out of the cellphone business.  The iPhone would not even exist.



:knowwhatnevermind:
I swear talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.



I'm not gonna say what talking to you is like.  Your understanding of economics rivals that of Winnie the Pooh.  If an iPhone costs $2000 nobody will buy it hence there will be no iPhone.  La derr


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Achillita] * 2
    #22319676 - 10/01/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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The brand new iphone 6 costs $200.10 to produce by apple. Yet they are being sold $550-$600. :shrug: That's a pretty high markup.





Children pay the price.




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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Asante]
    #22319718 - 10/01/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Theerre are other costs involved.  Marketing.  Distribution.  Maintenance.  Tech service.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Asante] * 1
    #22319816 - 10/01/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Asante said:
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Achillita said:
The brand new iphone 6 costs $200.10 to produce by apple. Yet they are being sold $550-$600. :shrug: That's a pretty high markup.





Children pay the price.







I sometimes wonder why you even bother to share this stuff on this forum. The Shroomery's pub is the druggie arm of the Edge Lord Reddit Reject Crew. You think most of these people give a fuck about African children?

But I do appreciate your continued benevolence and good faith.


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: dionysiandame]
    #22319858 - 10/01/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

One view. Just one person in the thread who decides to watch and is made to stop and think about the bigger picture. Thats why I do it. Most of the time theres little to no response in the thread, most in a thread lurk or stick with the immediate line of discussion, but theres always 1 or 2 in the shadows who wants to find out more.

People are inherently good, and how most people discuss in the Pub only bears superficial resemblance to their real life character.

I do it for the one that pays attention, who cares beyond the outcome of the discussion, in this case you.

The rock is Yang, it is hard, solid, unyielding. It is immediate and blatant. The water is soft, weak, yielding. It is indirect and subtle.

Over time, water carves a river through the solid rock.



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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #22320049 - 10/01/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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336 said:
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zappaisgod said:
The root cause of globalization is the consumer who wants to pay less.



FALSE
The root cause of globalization is the producer who wants to pay less and make more.



336 you are just about correct. Zappa you are out of touch with reality.

Fact: The producer wants to make more money by paying less for labor. So they go to other countries where they can pay a worker less than half what an American worker would get paid. Or they hire illegal immigrants and pay them the absolute minimum, actually some companies get away with paying less than the minimum. If the cost of labor goes up the cost of goods will also go up because producers want to keep their profits. Everyone should agree with this, if you don't then man I feel bad for you.

Obviously consumers want to pay less but they do not set prices for goods and services, the corporations and the free-market does. Producers will jack up prices as high as long as they don't start losing money because they raised prices so much consumers can't afford it.

Americans don't want the jobs illegals have unless they get paid well. Farming jobs are hard and americans won't work unless they get paid 15-20 an hour. So prices will go up!


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Re: Stop Illegal Immigration!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22320097 - 10/01/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do either of you two understand competition and pricing?  What do you think the profit margins for most businesses are?  For instance the health insurance industry?
http://www.markfarrah.com/healthcare-business-strategy/Profit-Margins-Converge-for-Top-Health-Plans.aspx

If an iPhone cost $2000 would you buy it?


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