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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Smoothcat]
    #22415440 - 10/21/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I only case pe and ape. But since that's all i usually grow, yes. I would not case your b+  My gt performed poorly in the past. But I'm going to give it another go.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: spacechildo]
    #22415859 - 10/21/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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what no recipe label? sounds weird to me, I know some soil mixes has different stuff in it but that's not jiffy..



First is jiffy
Second is an off brand


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22415872 - 10/21/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22091522/fpart/1/vc/1

So really, we all need to be focusing on the above thread.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22416818 - 10/22/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Hell yea. I'm building 6 gt tubs this weekend. They will all be polied at spawning and three will be cased. The other three will not receive a casing through the whole run.



the pe tub im not casing using this method was allowed to colonize. and is now in fruiting conditions. ive also let all of the AA + tubs colonize 100% before adding the casing layer. i then induced fruiting at 30-50% casing colonization.

things are looking promising. ill update later.

this old method is the easiest. you don't have to think about anything. all those people who say old is bad don't know where the gold is burried.

its kind of cool that we both always used to do the same thing azur. with the uncased bulk tubs using medium stuffed poly at spawning. i never colonized a tub with tape or magnets until this last year. it works. but going back to poly stuffed holes appears to be working better(SO FAR):rockon:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22416821 - 10/22/15 05:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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azur said:
Hell yea. I'm building 6 gt tubs this weekend. They will all be polied at spawning and three will be cased. The other three will not receive a casing through the whole run.



the pe tub im not casing using this method was allowed to colonize. and is now in fruiting conditions. ive also let all of the AA + tubs colonize 100% before adding the casing layer. i then induced fruiting at 30-50% casing colonization.

things are looking promising. ill update later.

this old method is the easiest. you don't have to think about anything. all those people who say old is bad don't know where the gold is burried.




That statement is so true. :thumbup:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
    #22419972 - 10/22/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

also wanted to add. that when using the substrate as casing method. i get similar results casing at the time of spawning. fastest ive harvested from spawning was 12-13 days on average.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
    #22421912 - 10/23/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Never took a final picture but the tub filled out nicely. Ugly fruits but packed full.
Picked on day 14 after spawning. You guys NEED to try this.
My control tub pinned this morning. So the experimental tub was harvested one day before the control tub pinned. Wicked success I'd say.
I have a gt tub uncased and polied at spawning that just threw up pins this morning. Spawned it 6 days ago.
Have a lot of pe bags getting ready and will run a few side by side comparisons.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22422013 - 10/23/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Damn that's impressive


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22422026 - 10/23/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Do it!


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22422037 - 10/23/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Spawned my B+ tub 6 days ago.  Just misted the casing.  Hoping to see some knotting by the end of the day.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22422040 - 10/23/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hell yea. Poly at spawning?


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22422047 - 10/23/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck yeah!  Got two control tubs too.

I'm hoping to grab a nice clone off this first tub.  Hopefully the genetics will be predisposed to this method.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22422119 - 10/23/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thatta boy
Keep us posted


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22422737 - 10/23/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So guys do you run a fan and 12/12 light too when you spawn and fruit without letting it finish colonizing?

I JUST spawned two tubs now (ms) and applied top layer of CVG, one pf redspores and the other cambodian!

Would love to introduce one of em directly to fruiting condition...so ill wait for your answers.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: oontribe]
    #22422744 - 10/23/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yes. Spawn and then put directly into fruiting. :thumbup:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
    #22422833 - 10/23/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks man.
Ok another questions...as you fruit directly and you run a fan...wouldnt the sub dry out? Do you mist? How do you even know that its getting dry before seeing any myc on the top?


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22423011 - 10/23/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Bro I'm so excited with your fast ass results. I will definitely be doing this with my other tubs.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: jbaby007]
    #22423111 - 10/23/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Bro I'm so excited with your fast ass results. I will definitely be doing this with my other tubs.





Same same :smile:


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: insanemike]
    #22423268 - 10/23/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yes. Spawn and then put directly into fruiting. :thumbup:



That's the name of the game in this thread.

I was running a fan and had to mist occasionally. In the past i did not run a fan and no misting was required.
It's different for everyone though. It all depends on where you live. You "dial your tubs in" (whatever the fuck that means) according to your location. Medium poly in all 6 holes has always been perfect for me.


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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: azur]
    #22424488 - 10/23/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Never took a final picture but the tub filled out nicely. Ugly fruits but packed full.
Picked on day 14 after spawning. You guys NEED to try this.
My control tub pinned this morning. So the experimental tub was harvested one day before the control tub pinned. Wicked success I'd say.
I have a gt tub uncased and polied at spawning that just threw up pins this morning. Spawned it 6 days ago.
Have a lot of pe bags getting ready and will run a few side by side comparisons.



az, were you adding a top layer of grain spawn over your mixed sub  before you applied the casing? i know you did it all at the same time.

my tubs are pinning check it out. here is one AA+ and a Syzygy. Didn't feel like taking them all.

NO DIAL IN NECESSARY. Maybe the thread name should be "WHY DIAL IN YOUR TUB WHEN YOU CAN LET THE TUB DIAL ITSELF IN?" :lol:

The tubs are already dialed in without doing anything.. medium polyfil in all holes for the win! check out the sides of the tub shots to illustrate this. so throughout colonization, pinning and now once fruiting begins, the polyfil was left alone since spawning. nothing was loosened, nothing was changed. i simply turned on the fan once colonization of the casing was 30-50%. and the light source was turned on. so these tubs colonized in a dark closet.



so ive already convinced myself to go back to my old methods. i tried every single new method ive seen with my 5 year absence. and the easiest method is to put the polyfil in during spawning, let it colonize, induce to fruiting. and let it be. which really means, let the tub fruit itself. you don't have to do anything special. in the last 2 years since i came back on the forums ive specifically been trying all these methods out. which actually end up being more work, but in those types of methods define things as being less work. ill agree to completely disagree. ive done less work on this last batch of tubs than the last 2 years combined with steady grows throughout the year.

catfrog also agrees with me.

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ive always calculated 2 weeks as the perfect factor from spawn to harvest(regular cubes). at any time if you have spawn ready, thats the time line at least in this lab. :thumbup:

and the fact that you have pe fruiting in that time frame is fucking amazing azur. teaching the kids how its done.

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you and i been saying this for years and no one was listening. thing is, it was common knowledge 10 years ago. :facepalm:

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