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eatyualive
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22860486 - 02/03/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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i did one tub with no casing about a month ago. it worked great. and flushed 2 times then i refilled the tub.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22860506 - 02/03/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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i should mention that my sub was a little shallow on both tubs I ran like this. maybe that was a factor contributing to the dryness.
loose poly and a heater are probably more of an issue though.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22860641 - 02/03/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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heater for sure. whats the rh outside the tub?
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22861161 - 02/03/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I did two tubs cased one non. Noticed slightly slower fruits hitting maturity as compared to cased subs. Only a day behind though. Second flush popping now for all of these and cased are faster again.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: morbiddoctor]
#22861353 - 02/03/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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 Two 27 quart AA+ 3 quarts oats inoculated with cornmeal LI to CVG spawned night before last. Got 3 more of these tubs to spawn, got to pick up some verm tomorrow before work.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: NDStepp84]
#22861362 - 02/03/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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was the grain you used inoculated with cornmeal LI? how long did it take to colonize. the AA is a little slower than some of the cultures i work with. but it colonizes in 4 days on grain wtih cornmeal LI for me.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22861408 - 02/03/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes the grain, my first time using liquids one cornmeal plate to 1/4 pint of water blended and divided between 10 quarts of oats. Most jars finished in 7 days, still the fastest I have ever had a jar colonize myself. Started some jars with agar several days before and the LI passed them up, really liking the cornmeal plates so far.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: NDStepp84]
#22861411 - 02/03/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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what are the colonization temps you have?
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22861427 - 02/03/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Usually stays right at 70, I noticed this AA is a lot slower than other varieties I have worked with.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: NDStepp84]
#22861555 - 02/03/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah my temps are about 76-78. so that makes a big difference in speed. probably explains the 2 days speed difference.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: NDStepp84]
#22861562 - 02/03/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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AA+ was a really slow colonizer for me as well, but it always put out hella wieght. My largest monotub flush was with aa+.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22861745 - 02/03/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice, my first go at the variety excited to see some mature fruits. I have been battling a mold problem lately up'd my PC time a bit, prep'd my grain a little dryer and hoping for the best. These jars looked good, broke up easily and smelled great.
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eatyualive said: yeah my temps are about 76-78. so that makes a big difference in speed. probably explains the 2 days speed difference.
I'd say you're right. I'd like it to be at least 75 but the wife complains she's hot all the time. Looking forward to getting my own work space soon.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22863363 - 02/04/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: heater for sure. whats the rh outside the tub?
no idea, but probably low.
my temp/rh/co2 monitor is inside my greenhouse now so I haven't been measuring the ambient room conditions. Since the humidifier is now rigged up to just the gh i imagine it's probably somewhere between 25-50 most days. i live in a dry climate as well
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#22863618 - 02/04/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi there, lots of great info guys, thank you! I now have 13 half pint jars (dont ask, small pcookers here) fully colonized from B+ multispore. I just pasteurized 8 pints and 9 half pints of CVG and horse and caw poo and waiting for them to cool down. Most likely I'll make the tub tomorrow morning. I'll dunk grains before and go straight into fruiting conditions with light and polyfill.
I hope this is goona be fine cause it's my first grow ever. I'm pretty exited, I spent a lot of time reading treads on shroomery and I'm quite confident.
Will post a shot if I can!
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: SHJ]
#22863639 - 02/04/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I forgot to mention that I'm going to leave the tub uncased. I'm still not sure on this one, but I think I understood that casing is a great think if you do it the right way, but a disaster if you make some mistake. This is the reason why most likely I'll not case this time, cause I'm afraid of doing something wrong.
Of course I'm writing this because it would be great to hear your opinions.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: SHJ] 1
#22864373 - 02/04/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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some tex multispore using this method.
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22864387 - 02/04/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hell yeah I've been fruiting mine at spawning
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22864411 - 02/04/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin you may have to mist more often than others. have you been misting?
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: eatyualive]
#22864643 - 02/04/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah that was the solution I came to. I mist a couple times a day and it seems to keep the sides of the tub and surface of the sub looking how they should.
I'm not a mono master yet, but I feel like i have a good idea of what it should look like.
when i said mine dried out, I didn't mean that it got dry and died or anything. just that I had to mist pretty often when before I didn't really mist at all. I was running the humidifier in the room at the time though so that's definitely a factor.
too many variables have been changing lately for me to nail down anything, but im just watching them and trying to keep everyone happy.
thanks for the tips eat. your tubs are always really impressive
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Re: taping holes in monotubs/casing at spawning [Re: SHJ]
#22865425 - 02/04/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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andtuf said: I forgot to mention that I'm going to leave the tub uncased. I'm still not sure on this one, but I think I understood that casing is a great think if you do it the right way, but a disaster if you make some mistake. This is the reason why most likely I'll not case this time, cause I'm afraid of doing something wrong.
I don't agree with the general idea casing can be a "disaster".
I always, at very least, case with vermiculite (although I like Ryche Hawk's peat based casing formula and 50/50 verm/coir). Casing with verm adds a huge humidity boost to the surface and is a reservoir for water that feeds the fruits, via spraying. You can't really go wrong with casing with a 1/4 inch of verm. And it takes 5 minutes to do.
The verm coating on PF cakes is a type of casing, and is never considered risky.
Brave of you to go cow poo on your first grow! good luck
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